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Old 01-19-2008, 17:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Is a religious body actually a poltical movement?

All I see is politics when religion comes up. Aren't we dealing with giant poltical bodies when it comes to religion? I can sometimes put on my reading glasses and see through it all. What is happening? How can it be corrected? The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins is a must read for me. What about you?
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Old 01-19-2008, 18:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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All I see is politics when religion comes up. Aren't we dealing with giant poltical bodies when it comes to religion? I can sometimes put on my reading glasses and see through it all. What is happening? How can it be corrected? The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins is a must read for me. What about you?
Growing up close to the border with Northern Ireland, I would certainly have to say that yes, most modern-day Churches in the World have a political slant (or in my country's case were used as differentiators by already existing political groups), though politics as you must be well aware of are not the primary reason for a Church's existence, so I don't see how you could describe them as being bult-in political forces (also, not all members of the church will agree with it politically, the vast majority of Catholics rarely listen to Rome's musings, for example).

As for correcting it, well that's impossible - Politics and Religion will always exist, and due to fact that members of any Church will always hold both, they'll always step on each others toes when it comes to influencing views.
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Old 01-19-2008, 21:09 PM   #3 (permalink)
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All I see is politics when religion comes up. Aren't we dealing with giant poltical bodies when it comes to religion? I can sometimes put on my reading glasses and see through it all. What is happening? How can it be corrected? The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins is a must read for me. What about you?
Well, I know your great shibboleth that you're going on about is Christianity. But that poses a negligable threat.

ISLAM, on the other hand, is a whole lot closer to what you're talking about, because it's much, MUCH more than a religion. ALL things are subordinated to their silly little fairy tale, while Christianity reserves its beliefs for the spiritual sphere. Islam has no such compartmentilization.

But I bet that isn't what you wanted to talk about, is it?

Well, rave on about the grave threat posed by the Religious Right, as that seems to be the only thing that hides under YOUR bed.

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I'm all for the US religious right. The more they attack and dumb down scientific knowledge in America, the more of my countrymen get jobs
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I'm all for the US religious right. The more they attack and dumb down scientific knowledge in America, the more of my countrymen get jobs
ZING! I have to say, I loled .
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As for correcting it, well that's impossible - Politics and Religion will always exist, and due to fact that members of any Church will always hold both, they'll always step on each others toes when it comes to influencing views.
Agreed, we will never stem Man's desire and need to control other Men, and/or Women as it were, but there is no need to drag God into this.
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Old 01-20-2008, 16:58 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Religions are like anything else man made, they are full of people with their own agenda and pushing to use whatever tools they can to achieve it.

The danger is when the religion is used to wield political power. The main reason for the danger is that close followers of religion have as their defining trait an irrationality. Such credulity should really be a disqualifying factor when dealing with real world political actions.

There is hope. Man has gradually opened his eyes and can see most of the myths for being exactly that. However those who leverage their political power from those myths will continues to propagate them and they will take some time before they can be consigned to the shelves with their peers of Greek and Roman mythologies.
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exactly what we are talking about in here
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If God didn't exsist man would have to invent him.
Or, 'As god didn't exist "we" have invented him' !
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Or, 'As god didn't exist "we" have invented him' !
Amen to that! Well said God bless you
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