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Old 01-17-2008, 22:41 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Rep. Ron Paul:

"I do not support any Real ID program, and I would seek the repeal of all federal laws mandating a Real ID program. The Real ID Act imposes tremendous costs on state governments, yet any state that opts out will automatically make nonpersons out of its citizens.
The citizens of that state will be unable to have any dealings with the federal government because their ID will not be accepted. They will not be able to fly or to take a train. In essence, in the eyes of the federal government, they will cease to exist.

However, the most objectionable feature of the Real ID Act is that it turns state driver's licenses into de facto national ID cards, thus facilitating the massive invasion of an American's privacy, facilitating the growth of the surveillance state, and turning America into the type of country where citizens must always have their 'papers in order.'"

-- News.com Technology Voters Guide, January 2, 2008.
Sounds like 'ol Ronnie has problems reading for comprehension, too.
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Old 01-19-2008, 18:50 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Friends, as freedom loving citizens, we have been distressed by the trends of totalitarianism exercised over the last centuries in the States. Under the seperate war presidencies of Lincoln, Wilson, Roosevelt, Truman & others, to include those more recent, we have seen the exercise of a uniform wartime socialist statism.

We have grown accustomed to sacrificing liberties for the duration of the emergency.

This requires only that modern tyrants discover the perfect formula for the permanent emergency. It could be argued that this was discovered on 11 September 2001. Or, on the other hand, it could be argued that we are once again loaning our liberties out.

Rep. Ron Paul:

"I do not support any Real ID program, and I would seek the repeal of all federal laws mandating a Real ID program. The Real ID Act imposes tremendous costs on state governments, yet any state that opts out will automatically make nonpersons out of its citizens.
The citizens of that state will be unable to have any dealings with the federal government because their ID will not be accepted. They will not be able to fly or to take a train. In essence, in the eyes of the federal government, they will cease to exist.

However, the most objectionable feature of the Real ID Act is that it turns state driver's licenses into de facto national ID cards, thus facilitating the massive invasion of an American's privacy, facilitating the growth of the surveillance state, and turning America into the type of country where citizens must always have their 'papers in order.'"

-- News.com Technology Voters Guide, January 2, 2008.
So do you read the threads before you post or do you just regurgitate the Ron Paul party line blindly at any oppurtunity?
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