supergreek

cuba would not go to war but try to ressolve the matter deplomaticly. and many nations across the world would support closing the base inc britain.

Feanor

Aww. Jeez. Did you have to go bursting my bubble?

smilingassassin

More like its ill informed populace. I'm sure if the average Britian spent 5 minutes with one inmate after looking at his case file they'd have a VERY different opinion of Gitmo....

Cuba go to war over Guantanimo? Never going to happen, its like ice scating uphill or playing Russian rullet with a fully loaded gun.

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supergreek

most of the inmates in guantanamo are held without trial,iligely and are inocent.

supergreek

Look how the inmates are barricly tretead.

Bluesman

You're an ignorant fool if you believe that. Try to find a few more facts before popping off with nonsense like that next time you make a bald assertion like this.

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Dreadnought

These same inmates had warning in the opening days of battle. They chose to fight the U.S. so then they chose to be put in a place where they can cause no trouble. Keep Gitmo open otherwise you will allow those that mean to do us harm access to the twisted world of lawyers. They have zero rights until they reach mainland courts. And if the military has it their way they wont. If your so concerned about their rights then think of the people and what these individauls have/would do if let loose to the innocent.

**** them let them rot in the palace of all prisons! or for the tear jerkers here arrange to have them contained in your own home with your own family. Then just perhaps you may understand why they are where they are and just how dangerous they are and if you have never been to gitmo then drop your argueing because you surely dont understand..

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Dreadnought

I'd would say they are living the life of luxury compared to what they deserve and the conditions in other prisons around the world.

ShawnG

On their knees outside on a nice day not being beat, abused, or tortured. That's what I see in the photo. How barbaric...

What is pretty heinous is the inmate in the exact center of the photo's abdominal fat problem. He's high risk for heart disease and cardiovascular disease.

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supergreek

Three British prisoners, now known in the media as the "Tipton Three," were released in 2004 without charge. The three have alleged ongoing torture, sexual degradation, forced drugging and religious persecution being committed by U.S. forces at Guantánamo Bay.

Shock rooms: "(In Guantanamo) I was subjected to severe torture. For three months, I stayed in these cold-hot shock rooms. When you go into the room they pump very hot air inside. After that, they pump extremely cold air. It is a horrifying kind of torture. There were various sorts of torture methods including electrical shocks, drowning in water tanks, depriving of food and water, chaining and hanging to the ceiling."

I witnessed people dying": "They brought a tub full of water. They dipped our heads and held them in water. There I witnessed many people die. They stripped us of our clothes, chaining and hanging us to the wall. I was kept hung to the wall for 4-5 days. Then doctor used to come and check if we could stand more or not. We were not given any food for 20 days. They only gave us one piece of toast, one carrot or one apple per day."

Guantanamo camp footage is fake": "After I was released I saw a lot of photos and video footage of Guantanamo detainment camp. Those are all fake and full of lies. Americans were selecting 2-3 detainees for the footage. They were giving mattresses, blankets, prayer beads and skullcaps to these detainees and were recording these videos. The documentary The Road to Guantanamo is a good work. But it is only telling 20 percent of what happened there. It is hard to show everything that happened over the years in one movie."

all these people were inocent

Dreadnought

Tell you what why dont we just empty Gitmo into Greece and see what happens such as in an experiment. We know exactly what will happen and thats why they will never see the mainland U.S.. But to those that really have no idea of what Gitmo is like then perhaps you and your poulation can experience it first hand and up close. Then perhaps you will see the true meaning of why they are there.

Go look at a real Soviet Gulag or French and then you will see just how well those prisoners at Gitmo are kept. S**t they live better then alot of populated corners of the earth.

Now repeat after me....

See no evil.
Hear no evil.
Speak no evil.

DO NO EVIL!

supergreek

nearly 800 detainees have been held in Guantanamo Bay, and about 300 of them have not been charged with a single crime. Only one Guantanamo detainee has been convicted by military commission and only three others have been charged for trial by military commission.

"Are we safer in our homes, now that these “dangerous terrorists” are off the streets and held in 6.5 x 8 ft. cells wearing the infamous Guantanamo three-piece suits? Are we safer now that these men are held without a trial, locked up without knowing what crime they have committed? Are we safer now that we have violated the honored Geneva conventions and the standards of decency for the sake of the War on Terror? And most importantly, are we willing to give up our American principles and ideals to allow for the continued existence and operation of Guantanamo Bay?"

ShawnG

Do you eat veggie burgers and drink non-fat vanilla latte's?

supergreek

no, i just have a consience and a heart. and know what is right and wrong.

Dreadnought

For one that story above is loaded with misgivings. Had many people died in Gitmo many many more heads would have rolled since the embarrassing pictures were released. How many died because of their own health reasonings if any have died which questions the truth of the article above.

1) How can you apply the Genevia conventions to these prisoners. They wear no uniform, follow no particular countries government etc etc. Kill women,children the old,young etc and you want to hand them rights? There victims had rights as well but they didnt seem to mind taking their rights and their lives to match.

Read the Geneva convention first and understand exactly what it says.

2) Standards of deciency? Show me where in one instance the acts these people have commited were decent in the least? So standards of deciency should apply to them? How about their victims? Oh just the U.S. since everybody wants us to be politically correct but yet dont want to do the job nor fund it. Nothing but armchair quarterbacks with no forward plays just words,saber rattleing and popularity contests. Thanks we'll pass on that one.

3) Why not have one of these criticising governments take over the prison only and fund it and use the rights they employ in their home country to try these prisoners and grant them sancuary? We the U.S. will still run the base but you can have all the spotlight you want in running the prison. I bet Gitmo stays in operation.