Tronic

Exactly. They are merely a tool for the politicians to rake in more votes.

That India is different from today's India. The past is just an excuse. Heck, by the same token, since Blacks in America were slaves for centuries, you think that today's American society must go out of its way to compensate for the past? That apologetic culture is discriminatory itself! Fact is, every single person has an equal opportunity to succeed; if the poorer spectrum finds difficulty in climbing the ladder due to money problems, then they may be assisted with financial help from the government. If they still are not able to compete at par with others, then they simply get left behind, that is life!

Ofcourse. If you realize that, then, why do you still support Quotas? Those are quite racist and hypocritical aswell.

Who says you are the only OBC here? I have never bothered with member's castes or whatever on this board, so if there was a poll done of who is OBC and who is not, I may have missed it!

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tankie

F*ck all surprises me anymore ,, but can anyone tell me ,, which screwed up morons actually go to see these :exhibits: ( im sure the word sh1t is in there somewhere ) .

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Adux

It is the misuse of it.



No it is not, It is just better, and in a decade or two. It will be completely different with a new set of ideology and nationalism. Quite similar to the American Culture.

My mother and father when they started our business, we had trouble's starting our business, because the field we are in was only dominated by nair community, and they didnt want any people of low caste getting in. They used to withold information, problems from getting a loan from the bank when all the papers were in order, its all very sutle my friend. This was in 1995. So they raised money from an alternate source, and now we are bigger than them, I have a chain of my business. They make it doubly hard for a person to succeed.


Blacks of America and our caste system are different. My religion Hinduisim in its present form is very discriminatory towards lots of its own sections, heck even women.


Yes. Understand the difference between apology and corrective measures.

Read above, sometimes its not about money. Trying running around for bank loan when all your papers are ready and have a great credit history!!! When you see even school teacher's who wouldnt give the kid a care which gives all others, just because of his/her caste. This is the societal problem. My own secretary who is brahmin from mangalore, wouldnt eat food from my home. Things have changed, she does now. But our family is not like before also. There were points in life, maybe converting to some other religion will give that respectability. After dad passed way in 1999, My mom took over the business, ever been a single woman from a lower caste running a business in India, and I am from Cochin a city, the biggest in Kerala.

Go on deep into India, things are different from the Urban India.



yes it is, but it is a necessary evil. We owe it to those people.


Why dont you try out a poll and see. You are pretty much a level headed guy with no leanings towards the left or right. Competitive field as of now in our country is impossible. You have to understand the subjugation has happened for centuries. It will need more effort and time, That is why I advocate a time bound reservation for ONLY SC/ST.

Southie

Eat lots of fiber!!! Things will get moving along pretty fast!

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Adux

This is the Gross'est Thread in all of this forum

Southie

Very true, but it didn't involve parents killing children. Just a bunch of crap!!!

Tronic

That ideology and nationalism is already very much there; it is just being suppressed by our a-hole politicians who have always supported extremist monkeys; be that in helping muslim extremists bring down moderate muslims, or in helping hindu extremists turn anyone who doesn't share their beliefs into a "sickularist" and a "commie".

Sad to hear, but that is against the law and the courts are always there. Better still, the media is always there. Anyhow, I don't know what exactly the nair community is but how did they influence the banks into not giving you a loan??? And now, let me tell you, forcing one's way to the top through reservations will do nothing to solve this resentment; it will only increase it.

Can you elaborate exactly how? Does this "nair community" run the banks? the government? I still don't understand how a third party can interfere in your way.


Exactly, How so?

Hindu women have gone to become India's PMs and Presidents, so how can you equate a small group of disriminatory people to the entire religion? All I see is small examples taken from some rural areas and shoved upon the entire country. And even if there are small groups I don't see why make the entire country suffer? Because Neo-Nazis still exist in Germany means that German society should also go out of its way today to compensate for them?

We all have had to do that, it is called corruption, unless you fill the pockets of the clerk, things rarely move in this bureacratic mess, this is India, its not exotic to any caste or creed.

If an "upper-caste" kid feels that way, nothing special about it. If a "lower-caste" kid feels that way, it becomes a big matter, tip off the politician monkeys and they will make a national issue out of it. We have already seen this happen.

You think quotas changed that? Heres a hint, it is all about the money. As soon as you start raking it in, everyone bows down; "caste" is merely an excuse.

Sad to hear about that bro. Though, one of my relatives is also a single mother and she runs her own business in Chandigarh. She started off with little, today she owns two factories and still growing. Everyone gets an equal chance, the division is only in one's thinking.

Yet, Urban India gets shoved with quotas.

Please. Tell me one thing. Can lower-caste people not go to schools? Can they not go shop for books? Do they not get accepted into colleges? What is it that they can't do that others can?