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Old 12-12-2007, 15:25 PM   #31 (permalink)
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a 10 year-old?
is she considered a woman and smart enough to be able to give her decision?
how many men were they?
what do her parents say?

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Old 12-12-2007, 17:08 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I have not understood what this Judge is stating.

Is she saying that Aborigines permit rape as a societal norm?
I don't know enough about Aboriginal culture to comment Ray. She seemed to be working on the premise that too many Aborigines are in jail, but by going leniently on the rapists she seems to be further victimising the little girl.
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Old 12-12-2007, 17:15 PM   #33 (permalink)
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What interests me about the way this has been handled, however, is the rush to condemn 'activist judges'. Was this judge really 'activist'. Captain is about the only person so far to have pointed out that what the judge did was basically to pass the sentence the PROSECUTOR was asking for. It is exceedingly rare for a judge to pass a stronger scentence than the prosecution asks for. So the complaint here is not that the judge was 'activist', but that she wasn't 'activist' enough.
While agreeing with you that this shouldn't be treated as a liberal/conservative issue, I can't agree that she should give such weight to what the prosecutor asked for. She can hear submissions from both the prosecutor and defence attorney but the decision is hers and hers alone. If a prosecutor had said they should have been given a civic parade, would she have done it?
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Old 12-12-2007, 18:16 PM   #34 (permalink)
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The feds over rode the Territory govt because the child abuse had reached a crisis point but activist lawyers and welfare agencies refused to, in some cases acknowlege, and in most cases, do anything about it.
My family are long term Territorians, a long established family that have the dubious envy of being in australian history books for a variety of reasons.

One of them was tied up with the legal processes involving the Aust Land Council for 10-12 years and ended up resigning in disgust at the blatant "business mindset" interference of members of the legal community. It was perceived as a vehicle for an ongoing revenue stream - and so contention and opposition was considered de rigeur rather than a considered attempt at resolution. Aboriginal justice has become an industry more than it has become an obligation to deliver and provide egalitarian solutions to victims of crime.

I currently have another relative who is currently the most senior serving officer in the HREO Commission, and has been exposed to this behavioural nonsense over the last 50 years. (at a work level and due to the fact that he is part aboriginal)

Both of them, with relevant, active and intimate knowledge of these circumstances would agree with you.

In all of this hoo har, very very little noise has been generated about the impact of this upon the girl in this event.

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Old 12-12-2007, 18:48 PM   #35 (permalink)
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a 10 year-old?
is she considered a woman and smart enough to be able to give her decision?
how many men were they?
what do her parents say?

It has been reported that there was 9 of them, not 6 as first reported. It seems that now as rest of the world are furious over this case, the Australian Government are keen to sort this out. Let's hope the first thing they do is dismiss the "Judge". After that, get the rapists back into Court and let real justice take it course
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Old 12-12-2007, 21:03 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Are you right and are they wrong? And how do you know?
Yes, I am.

I don't need to explain it and if I do need to explain fundamental right and wrong to you well then..... come near my kids I'll blow your head off.
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Old 12-12-2007, 22:55 PM   #37 (permalink)
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The judge is insane, needs to be instutionalised. The lesson give to the girl is that there is no justice and the boys get the message that it's okay to commit crimes.
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