dalem

Many public places here in Minnesota ban firearms. So even if one has a permit one is not allowed to carry in them. I would not be surprised to find out that the mall in question was one of those "safe" places.

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dalem

In a MALL? What's your background gonna look like?

I mean sure, pull your piece and do what you can, hopefully I'd be right there with you, but suppressive fire into a probable crowd? Yikes.

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Dago

Yeah. Your right. Premature BBS response.

You don't know until your faced with the facts, and even then you hope you can face them, and react.

However, I'm sure I could lob a few shots within 5 feet of him and I'm pretty sure he knows where it's coming from. Thats if and when there is no one around him.

Gun Grape

Its quotes like this that reinforce my belief that CCP should not be issued to anyone but trained individuals. And I don't meant that BS 4 hr course that the
State of Fl requires. But a course that last at least 40 hr classroom and equal range time. A practical application test with semiannual refresher training./testing and , yes, a mental screening

I don't want Rambo anywhere near me in the mall.

Lobbing rounds in his direction. Holy Crap. Ever hear of ricochets? Think that drywall behind him is going to stop the bullets?

You either have a shot and take it. Or you don't have one. No spray and pray in the mall. Nice way to up a body count.

sappersgt

The problem is the mall is full of people. Any round that misses will continue until it hits something. It's not like the movies. Ricochets follow about an inch above whatever hard surface they hit. If it hits a wall it's going to change direction and follow that wall until it hits something or someone.

It is possible to aim at a spot in front of a partially concealed target and have the rounds smack right into that part of your target that is exposed. I've done it. In one instance half a foot protruding around a wall and another the buttocks of a man using a concrete step for cover. That gives you an idea of just how dangerous your ricochets are going to be.

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HistoricalDavid

It's the sort of debate above which made me say I would assess the situation before pulling if I had the opportunity. Obviously my contribution is speculative though.

Aha, didn't think of that aspect.

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PowerPunch

...why is it that most of shootings happen in US? Answer me that first, why is that there are so many crazy people there with Guns available freely, sold is Walmart and god knows where else? Except for the shooting in Finland recently, shooting in the University, shooting in Houston (NASA) shooting in the mall all happend in US.
What wrong with people in US? Are they slowly loosing their mind? IF they want to kill themselves let them do it, but why innocent people who have not harmed these crazy people in anyway.
Can anyone please explain the amount of crazyness that happens everyday in only one country in the world - USA
Something is really wrong with this country- killing,spreading hatred,racism,child molestation,rape etc... Just being a rich nation, advanced nation and world power does not make it Great,it should devise a way to treat its people who are slowly going crazy.

GOD SAVE US of A

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sappersgt

There's just better news coverage here. Nobody cares about the fourteen times more people who are killed everyday in South Africa, Columbia or even Costa Rica. It just doesn't make the news.

NationMaster - Murders (per capita) (most recent) by country

(US is 24th)

gunnut

OK we have the first one here. Any more?

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HistoricalDavid

Child molestation? Hey, I'm sure the priests have been busy filling up the nation's quota but that's nonetheless a very original thing to pin, Michael-Moore-style, as special to the US.

Parihaka

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PowerPunch

Parihaka ... if u r trying to say that i am propogating hatred by this statement "Something is really wrong with this country- killing,spreading hatred,racism,child molestation,rape etc... Just being a rich nation, advanced nation and world power does not make it Great,it should devise a way to treat its people who are slowly going crazy" then let me clear it to u. I am not and merely stating the facts as to what is happening in that country and just because I am singling out that country does not mean that I am ok with other countries, like for instance here in australia rocks are thrown from over bridge hurting/killing innocent motorist, and why throw stones? Well just for the heck of it...and I am pointing out this kind of sick people.

Officer of Engineers

Nice backtracking.You're trolling about the US pure and simple.

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Ironduke

Are you a moron? Even at current rates, murder is still exceedingly rare. As the most serious crime, it is catapulted into the limelight. Would 40% of our murder rate be crazy? Like France or Iceland? How about two-thirds, like Finland?

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PowerPunch

ironduke... I pity u... u just dont seemsunderstand what i am trying to get... my sympathies for u ... i am just condemning the crime committed by these kind of people and looks like there are more of them in america (thanks to the media)