Britain: Artists Afraid to Offend Radical Islam

Adux · 11-23-2007, 03:09 AM

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Britain: Artists Afraid to Offend Radical Islam

November 21, 2007 | From theTrumpet.com

Radical Islam is so deeply embedded in British society, even the nation’s most famously controversial and edgy artists are afraid to confront it.

Grayson Perry is a provocative, cross-dressing, award-winning potter, whose highly decorated ceramic pieces, which often feature sex, violence and anti-religious motifs, can sell for tens of thousands of dollars.

Like many artists, Perry prizes himself as a non-conformist, a creative, avant-garde revolutionary, unafraid to use art as a means of confronting tradition, religion and societal norms. But for as bold and progressive as Perry claims to be, there’s one subject that frightens him to the core.

“I’ve censored myself,” Perry said at a discussion on art and politics organized by the Art Fund. “The reason I haven’t gone all out attacking Islamism in my art is because I feel real fear that someone will slit my throat.”

For a man with such a strong reputation for stirring up controversy, Perry’s attitude toward Islamism is remarkable.

“I’m interested in religion and I’ve made a lot of pieces about it,” he said. “With other targets you’ve got a better idea of who they are, but Islamism is very amorphous. You don’t know what the threshold is. Even what seems an innocuous image might trigger off a really violent reaction, so I just play safe all the time.”

It doesn’t appear this phobia for criticizing Islam is confined to Grayson Perry.

“Perry also believes that many of his fellow visual artists have also ducked the issue, and one leading British gallery director told the Times that few major venues would be prepared to show potentially inflammatory works” (Times, November 19).

The Trumpet has monitored the growing presence and influence of radical Islam in Britain, explaining how it has become the sickness in Britain’s heart. That even contemporary artists and art galleries, many of whom make massive amounts of money breaking taboos and exploring new limits, are afraid to tackle Islam is a telling sign of the alarming presence of radical Islam in Britain. •

theTrumpet.com

Adux · 11-23-2007, 04:07 AM

Begining of Londonistan .... Greater Pakistan

WhamBam · 11-23-2007, 04:48 AM

If that happens, won't that be kind of poetic justice? A taste of reverse coloniasm for one of the greatest ever colonist power.

Feanor · 11-23-2007, 14:33 PM

The Islamic Caliphate of Europa.

Adux · 11-23-2007, 14:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Feanor

The Islamic Caliphate of Europa.

If the trend is, what is going on in Islam as now. Then,
End of the world, as we know it.

Exarecr · 11-24-2007, 01:15 AM

For the West immigration has morphed into a bizzare form of Colonization that reuires the new country of the immigrant to deny its own history in place of the new comers. Any debate is quickly and efficiently smothered by screaching cries of outrage as social engineers point out the country in question was founded by the immigrant,thus the immigrant must not be forced or made to feel other than what they have left behind.
Therefore,in multicultural Britain, the hyphenated immigrant proclaims racism because the established citizenry want and expect the new comer lucky enough to be excepted to adapt to the new homeland. The west is just now begining to see the can of worms liberal,uncontrolled immigration has become. This is indeed the opening social salvoes of the 4th World War and its about to get a lot worse soon. The West and the Muslim world will always be like oil and water, and only time will tell how long the west can afford to put up with the dangerous fork in the road the Muslim faith seems to want to take.

WhamBam · 11-24-2007, 01:47 AM

Typically controlled immigration is good for the western world. They have been able to attract the best brains and skilled hands in the world and kept up their superiority through immigration. I don't think they can generate all the required skills locally to keep up with the demand.

However, yes, the immigrants also have the responsibility of integrating into the host society without giving up their culture if that is what they want. And if a particular segment of immigrants is not able to do that and feels hostile to the host country, the next logical step is to stop or limit immigration of that group. I don't think the western world can totally stop immigration and remain the force it is at the same time.

gunnut · 11-24-2007, 04:47 AM

Behold our future.

Those who so boldly challenge the establishment of traditional morals and christianity and family values are too afraid to challenge the real bullies. They are only courageous enough to pick on those who obey the law.

Bullies only understand one thing: brute force. Be it law or violence. We need to assert our values above theirs, on our land. They can have their values above ours on their land. That's only fair. But here, our values come first.

If an artist is free to insult one religion here, let it be know that all religions are subject to ridicule.

WhamBam · 11-24-2007, 05:08 AM

I somehow feel that many Muslims are just too smart at using the system in the west to their advantage. So all this talk about profiling whenever even a rogue is picked up carrying 5000 illegal mobile phones. Now this so called profiling is par for the course in their own home countries without any issues: Remember Kaafirs having no rights to even pray in Saudi.

And then there is the talk of women having the "choice" to wear niqabs in the west as if back home they are given all the choice in the world by blowing up the girls schools in Pakistan and they have willingly given up the right to drive in Saudi.

Irrespective of all this and their less than glorious history in terms of human rights, they can successfully shame the western world into believing that they are being discriminated against. For this success alone they deserve full points.

gunnut · 11-24-2007, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by WhamBam

I somehow feel that many Muslims are just too smart at using the system in the west to their advantage. So all this talk about profiling whenever even a rogue is picked up carrying 5000 illegal mobile phones. Now this so called profiling is par for the course in their own home countries without any issues: Remember Kaafirs having no rights to even pray in Saudi.

And then there is the talk of women having the "choice" to wear niqabs in the west as if back home they are given all the choice in the world by blowing up the girls schools in Pakistan and they have willingly given up the right to drive in Saudi.

Irrespective of all this and their less than glorious history in terms of human rights, they can successfully shame the liberal western world into believing that they are being discriminated against. For this success alone they deserve full points.

Fixed

WhamBam · 11-24-2007, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by gunnut

Fixed

Well done

. Now if the liberals could also be fixed with the same ease

.

gunnut · 11-24-2007, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by WhamBam

Well done

. Now if the liberals could also be fixed with the same ease

.

One can only hope.

Feanor · 11-25-2007, 00:06 AM

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Originally Posted by WhamBam

Well done

. Now if the liberals could also be fixed with the same ease

.

Easy. They just have to get some balls

....... oh. wait.........

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WhamBam Contributor Join Date: 02-27-07 Location: India Posts: 655 Country:	If that happens, won't that be kind of poetic justice? A taste of reverse coloniasm for one of the greatest ever colonist power. __________________ There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don’t..

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gunnut *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 01-27-06 Location: DPRK, Democratik People's Republik of Kalifornia Posts: 9,885 Country:	Behold our future. Those who so boldly challenge the establishment of traditional morals and christianity and family values are too afraid to challenge the real bullies. They are only courageous enough to pick on those who obey the law. Bullies only understand one thing: brute force. Be it law or violence. We need to assert our values above theirs, on our land. They can have their values above ours on their land. That's only fair. But here, our values come first. If an artist is free to insult one religion here, let it be know that all religions are subject to ridicule. __________________ "Only Nixon can go to China." -- Old Vulcan proverb.

11-24-2007, 05:08 AM	#9 (permalink)
WhamBam Contributor Join Date: 02-27-07 Location: India Posts: 655 Country:	I somehow feel that many Muslims are just too smart at using the system in the west to their advantage. So all this talk about profiling whenever even a rogue is picked up carrying 5000 illegal mobile phones. Now this so called profiling is par for the course in their own home countries without any issues: Remember Kaafirs having no rights to even pray in Saudi. And then there is the talk of women having the *"choice"* to wear niqabs in the west as if back home they are given all the choice in the world by blowing up the girls schools in Pakistan and they have willingly given up the right to drive in Saudi. Irrespective of all this and their less than glorious history in terms of human rights, they can successfully shame the western world into believing that they are being discriminated against. For this success alone they deserve full points. Last edited by WhamBam : 11-24-2007 at 05:12 AM.

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WhamBam Contributor Join Date: 02-27-07 Location: India Posts: 655 Country:	Typically controlled immigration is good for the western world. They have been able to attract the best brains and skilled hands in the world and kept up their superiority through immigration. I don't think they can generate all the required skills locally to keep up with the demand. However, yes, the immigrants also have the responsibility of integrating into the host society without giving up their culture if that is what they want. And if a particular segment of immigrants is not able to do that and feels hostile to the host country, the next logical step is to stop or limit immigration of that group. I don't think the western world can totally stop immigration and remain the force it is at the same time.

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