Leader

This is somewhat hard to imagine.

lol You learned English too.

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Leader

I think we can logically get to why this is not the primary reason for Germany's problems. Germany is in many ways similar to France, Belgium, Italy, and Spain. They all follow a socialist model of government. They also have similar unemployment rates. So if German unemployment is caused primary by the integration of East Germany, what about France, Belgium, Italy, and Spain. What is causing their problems? Given the close proximity and similar economic systems of these countries to Germany, they most likely have similar causes of their economic problems. Thus, it is unlikely that East Germany is the primary cause of the German economic problems.

Ray

Old boys,

You are smoking what I would like to counter.

Are you suggesting that US is fabs in employment?

Do you realise the hassle Germany has?

You have not even controlled one silly island Cuba.

Communist sadly they are, they are still hanging on!

Yet get western idealsm they will collapse like a pack of cards.

I am not saying Commies are great, but Communism makes a man lazy and changes causes identity crisis and strife.

Leader

No, but it's not bad. I'm not overly concerned. Full employment is 4% so we are about 1.5% above that, and that is going down.

We have hassles too.

Gio

Absoloutley not, we do have our problems. But the way you make it sound, we're in an economic crisis. And that's simply not true, our economy is one of, if not the best among the 20 top industralized nations, sir. I don't take kindly to misinformation like your great depression claim. That's all.

Julie

Ray, The US has much room to play within their economy. Germany will be forced to break away and take some drastic measure to solve their economic crisis. Free trade would be a good one.

Gio

Ray, here's a chart from the last month comparing the economic conditions of the world's major industralized nations, hope you enjoy it:

Ray

Actually, it is rather embarrassing that the West knows so little about the Mid East and elsewhere.

I didn't learn English, dumbo.

In India, English is one of our languages.

All learn English. So, I did not do a sael jumping through a hoop in a circus thing!

For Christ sake, don't think we are some ancient pagans, prancing in the nude with snakes on our shoullders siting in an elephat in a forest!

Either you bone up (since your Englsh is poor, it means learn) or shut up. Ignoramus.

Just check the spelling mistake of Indians on this site and your West!

Just shut up.

Veni Vidi Vici

Ray... Play nice. Were all friends here.

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Leader

It was a joke. Get over yourself.

Veni Vidi Vici

Its ok.. Ray(in all his wisdom) has been lecturing people on several threads.

Ray

Leader and Triple V,

OK .

Yet, I must say, English is a compulsory language in most of our States.

barrowaj

Calling current high unemployment numbers in Germany a failure of European socialism is hardly a justified conclusion. The unemployment is due to the open boarder policy within the EU, and outside the EU, from the flow of Turkish immigrants into the country. The Germans are smart for focusing on sustainable development, because they understand that growth cannot only occur from the increasing utilization of resources. The growth that America experiences on the other hand, is hardly sustainable, because it allows the market economy to waste resources inefficiently. Let me elaborate... While America has one of the highest production efficiencies of any country, it does not use the resources it has efficiently because it is not focused on renewable energy or reusable waste. This is because these methods are currently less profitable than to simply continue the cycle of consumption and disposal. Capitalism is a tightly coupled feedback loop between supply and demand that ensures that inefficient producers will go out of business. But anyone who has watched Conway's game of life long enough knows that when the density of organisms reaches a certain point, the whole colony self destructs. Similarly, the rampant destruction and waste of our communally owned natural resources is beneficial in the short run, but will stall in the long run. Unfortunately the life span of humans is too short for there to be any feedback in the loop between human consumption and environmental destruction. A feedback system that has such a high amplification but a pronounced delay in the loop will have inherently unstable characteristics. This means that it is very likely that we will reach catastrophe before we are aware that we need to avert it. The problem is further compounded by the fact that politicians are focused on short term, rather than long term benefits, and therefore will seek what's best for them in the short run. This is why the United States did not ratify the Kyoto treaty. Of all the countries in the world we have the technological base to moderate our emissions, but we choose not to simply because it is inconvenient.

dalem

Uh, you were the one that brought up the U.S. employment numbers in a thread about Germany's unemployment problem. If you didn't want a comparison then why ask the question?

And our unemployment rate historically-speaking very low for the U.S. And pretty darned low compared to much of the rest of the Western World.

Why would someone insist on arguing with success?

-dale

dalem

But...

What about the high unemployment rates in other European countries?

Right. Capitalism is doomed. Heard it before. And the U.S. didn't ratify Kyoto because it is a policy designed to screw the U.S. economically, and besides, it's based on bad science. It's a piece of political tripe not worth wiping your butt with.

-dale