Ray

The educated Moslems of undivided India have gone to Pakistan. Well most educated. Some of them are here in India and are doing very well.

The illiterates and mostly artisan (and they are excellent in their trade) are in India.

The illiterate are prone to be gullible and so they swallow that they Mullah say.

I don't think there is any conspiracy or a revolution planned. It is just that for the poor, sex is the only entertainment. If the Mullah says contraception (condoms are freely given and the poor use them as baloons for festivals mostly!) is UNISLAMIC, can you blame the poor illiterate Moslems?

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Jay

Now there is crusade going on between Mullahs and Muslim Women's Association in Pudhu Kottai, Tamil Nadu.

After a year's marriage, Sharmila Bhanu abrubtly died (was allegedly killed by her husband and their family). The husband's family held religious services and buried her in the local kabiristan (muslims burial site, I think). The womens association filed a petition in court and the court ordered the police to do postmortem on the body.

Local muslim elders say its unislamic and violation of shariat to dig up the body. But the Muslim womens Association wants the police to go ahead with the dig up and the Police is going to do so. So all the 3 parties are in logger heads now.

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ChrisF202

In India is an autospy required? Here it is required by law.

Jay

You dont need autopsy for naural deaths. But if there is a police complaint or a case pending in court, or a District Collector (high ranking official) authorizes it then it is mandatory.

Aryan

I remember there was a case in India where 5 Dalits were killed by a hinduvata mob after allegedly skinning a cow. The Indian local authorities ordered an autopsy of the cow, not the 5 dead people.

Jay

Really?

Nisaar

Thats like quite hillarious

Anyway, are the muslims getting more and more illiterate(hence more trust in the moulanas) or are they getting more an more educated?

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Samudra

Very Well Aryan
Since you posted that , i ask you prove a source for that.Else I report that specific post to mod.

Tired of dealing with such people who will pull stuff and post it here.

lemontree

Killing a cow is banned in India (due to religious sentiments). The autopsy on the cow was ordered to check if the cow had a natural death or if it was killed. It was also done to counter the allegations of the hindu fundamentalists that the cow had a natural death and had not been killed. The 5 dalits were in the tanning business (poor ppl though), and there was some personal rivalry that was given a communal colour.

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lemontree

The muslims choose to be backward wheather educated or not. In my city, there is an affluent suburb that was earlier populated by parsi and christians mainly. But many muslims moved there due its lack of communal violence. Today muslims outnumber the non-muslims there, and they have made a mess of things. A very prominent xtian run school was in a bit of a controversy due to these idiots who rake up the communal *** at the drop of a hat.

That school in question has 65-70% muslims students, most of them dont study and fail in class repeatedly. In India, especially in private schools if a student fails in a class for 2 years, he/she is asked to leave the school. Apprx 100 (many happened to be muslims) students were asked to leave the school. One particular student, was thrown out for indiscipline (he had threatened 02 teachers of his class). The parents of this particular student went to the human rights commission and political parties to complain of religious discrimination.

Its they who rake up the religious issue every time.

Check out the links
http://web.mid-day.com/news/city/2003/june/57072.htm

Nisaar

These bloody friggin muslims

Would you say the problem is escalting ?......

lemontree

Its very easy to shout "religious discrimination" the media listens to you.
The situation is not improving...just gets worse. Although exceptions are there, and they do make us proud.

Jay

After struggle, Madurai woman becomes Jamaat member

By Our Special Correspondent

MADURAI, OCT. 26. Madurai, acclaimed for facilitating the entry of Harijans into temples and inspiring Mahatma Gandhi to renounce his traditional attire to become a `half-naked fakir', now has one more feather in its cap. A woman has been made member of a Jamaat, perhaps for the first time in the country.

Fiftynine-year-old Nazneen Barkath, a former government college principal, has become a member of the MSS Wakf Board College KK Nagar Mosque Committee Jamaat. The appointment is the culmination of a two-decades-long struggle for equal rights. Though offering prayers at mosques and membership of Jamaats were in practice during the time of the Prophet, women still remain marginalised in India, says Ms. Nazneen. These are privileges enjoyed by Muslim women in the United States.

Victims of ignorance
Ms. Nazneen wants to campaign for allowing women to worship at all mosques from a separate enclosure. Indian women, she says, are victims of `triple talaq' and marginalisation because of their ignorance of the rights enshrined in the Quoran and the marriage law. "They are ignorant of the right to divorce their husbands, a power bestowed on them when the wedding ceremony is performed. Instead of accepting `mahar' (money given to the bride at the time of marriage), women are forced to pay dowry," laments Ms. Nazneen.

"The Prophet was the greatest feminist of his time and he provided for equal rights in property and religion to women. But in practice these rights are denied." When the Jamaat enjoys powers equivalent to that of a panchayat in rural areas, the presence of women in it is essential to resolve gender issues. An all-men Jamaat cannot deliver judgments on issues of women fairly and impartially, she feels.

Ms. Nazneen does not look at all Jamaats as "anti-women". The KK Nagar Jamaat, on its own, inducted her in a unanimous decision.

Model code

"Many more Jamaats have expressed their willingness to co-opt women members now," she says. The Muslim Personal Law Board has sent out for circulation a `Model Nikha Nama', suggesting some radical changes in the conduct of marriages. The code suggests payment of `mahar', preferably in gold, to the bride in keeping with the status of the groom.

Ms. Nazneen insists on the community leaders also verifying whether the groom is already married or whether he is a widower or divorcee at the time of marriage.

`Credit to Jayalalithaa'

Describing her induction as a "great victory" for Muslim women in the country, Ms. Nazneen says the credit should partially go to the Chief Minister, Jayalalithaa, who appointed a woman chairperson of the Wakf Board. But she does not look at the fight for equal rights as a tussle between men and women. "There are progressive thinkers in the Muslim community. We should work together to create a better society."

However, she is averse to having a separate mosque and Jamaat for women as "this will result in further alienation." When Harijans were denied entry into temples prior to independence, they did not construct temples for their own. Instead, they fought for entry along with others, recalls Ms. Nazneen. She has written to Jamaat heads all over the State, urging them to give representation to women.

Even after becoming a Jamaat member, Ms. Nazneen offers prayers at a nearby mosque where women are allowed.

-The Hindu

dabrownguy

LOL. I say that every one needs an education. Perhaps the current government will take large action. I also say that Muslim communities do need to stop isolating them selves. They could very well be part of the country in more ways if they opened up. Or we can start blaming communist for everything and "racism" will be oblished like in the States.

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