Confed999

If you're asking if I want a virgin, the answer is no. Otherwise, I only prefer new cars because of the warranty.

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roshan

Virgins are better for the guarantee. No aids, syphyli, hepatitis, gonorrhea etc included!

But what I meant to say wasnt that virgins are better. I meant that just as cars shouldnt be used before you buy them, people should also not have sex before they are married.

Confed999

If that's the way you feel, that's fine, for you, but I want to check full compatability before I enter into something that's forever. I really think a couple should live together for at least a year before they even think of getting married.

My late wife had a disease when I married her, but since I loved her, and I still love her, it meant nothing to me. We got 6 years that I wouldn't trade for the world, 6 years I wouldn't have gotten if I did things your way.

Asim Aquil

Well said. Feel for ya on that, and sorry to hear about your loss.

I don't agree with people when they perceive as women who've lost their virginity as damaged goods. Of course that doesn't mean, only promiscuous women for me, but you know like someone stable whose been with her boyfriend, had sex, before. Whose to say a non-virgin who could've been fingered by 100 guys would be any nicer to me?

Alright that didn't sound right.

Ok what I'm trying to say is that when it comes to the wifey/gf bit, her virginity is not going to be the deciding factor.

Confed999

I appreciate that.
Neither do I. If anything I prefer a woman that knows her way around. If you love someone, things like that just do not matter. I've even had a semi-serious relationship with an ex-prostitute, and I'm sure I wouldn't have liked her as much if she had been a different person with different experiences.

mostlymad

Sorry about your wife, Confed, but it's wonderful that you have such love.

Not only does a woman or man who has experience physical relationships before "know their way around" (I like that wording!), they have a basis of comparison, and it lets you know they like the sex with you as well. That's reassuring, and may stop some people from feeling they need to experiment later on.


A lot of focus here on women's pre-marital sex. No, they aren't damaged goods, if they've had sex before, and neither are men. I look at both the same way.

Sure, I would prefer a new car, but even people who like new cars take them for test drives.

Asim Aquil

AWESOMAGE!

You get 10 points for that :D

Confed999

I wish that feeling on all of you as well. I've never encountered anything quite as special, quite as life changing, as that feeling.

Dragoon

Your freedom ends where my nose begins....,

the claim that porn doesn't hurt anyone is not entirely accurate. Child pornography relies on the abuse and moletation of children for it's source. while i admit thats an extreme case i admit any act that creates an image of someone being anything less than human is damaging to society in general. and society exist at it's most basic level to police and protect others from the worst tendancies of our fellow man.

if anything has a negitive or destructive effect on society then it needs to be looked at very closely. most pornography is not just a picture of a nice looking girl in little or no clothing. the bulk of it is degrading and demeaning, and intended to make one or the other partner soemething less than human.

images of torture, humiliation and abuse are common on most porn sites and would be in print forms if not restricted. Porn generaly fulfills the lowest and most animalistic desires and compulsions, imaginable. it takes a lot to disgust me anymore but most hardcore porn is getting worse by the day. it long ago stopped being a outlet for sexual frustrations and has become an open embrace of the most perverse acts imaginable.

if there are people who want to see a children used as living sex toys is that expression of speech or perversion. you cant just allow anything to be fair game when there is a very strong link between sexual abuse of adults, and children and pornography. that linkage alone is enough to require some
legal oversight and regulation.

Dragoon

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Confed999

Actually, from my statement, my freedom ends where another's freedom begins.
Would be a breach of the right to choose, children cannot choose for themselves and must be protected. So, it has nothing to do with my statement.
But, if the people involved are there by their own choice, then nobody's rights have been violated. I've met porn "stars" before, and it seems they liked their job.
I don't have a problem with regulation, real regulation not control, over anything kids shouldn't see/have.

roshan

For me the issue of wanting to mary a virgin has nothign to do with them being "damaged goods" or anything. But I simply want a person who has the same concepts of right and wrong, morals etc as me. This is so that in the long run the family will be in harmony and we can have a happier life together.

Also, if the woman(or man for that matter) screwed around before marriage, chances are that they will do the same after marriage too. This is why many marriages end in divorce etc.

Dragoon

Unfortunately the effect of porn is not on the producers..., most of them are fairly sane and rational adults with a slightly odd way of making a living.

The danger of porn is on the consumer. like most things in moderation it is at best a vicarious release of frustration. however in some people it can quickly become a very destructive influence. young men or women who are exposed to porn( Not just nude picture) while forming their basic ideals of sexuality and normal behavior can suffer as a result..., i won't go as far as to say it creates the problem but it certianly can aggrivate it. I don't think porn should be banned or regulated out of existancve I would simply caution against carte blanche protection it ios not free speech or self expression it is a business like anyother. and it's destructive side needs to be monitored and EFFECTIVELY and FAIRLY regulated to allow both it's creators and consumers to get what the want without causing damage.

Now if you'll excuse me I havn't finished this months playboy
Dragoon

mostlymad

That's a nice viewpoint, and makes sense based on your beliefs and values. I only object when church or state tries to tell us that all consenting adults have to follow a certain set of values in sexual matters. Just as you have the right to follow your beliefs, so should others, as long as it hurts no one.

tarek

Dragoon

How does one "Effectively and Fairly" MONITOR AND REGULATE what on does not agree on - For instance, because we get into accidents in cars does not mean that cars CAUSE accidents, does it?? That element of personal responsibility (like the one your signature asserts) is in jeopardy by what you suggest. Porn is certainly a business, but so is the publishing of literature, and as a legitimate business does it not deserve to legal protection?

"The danger of porn is on the consumer." you say.. much as the threat of drowning is on the swimmer? the threat of being in a accident on a driver? The threat of finding love on the romantic?

Seems to me that you want your cake and to eat it as well, you want it regulated, but not out of existence, why not instead let consumers and DEMAND decide?

Dragoon

Because Governments and societies exist to protect individuals from harm. A balance between Freedom and protection has to be met.