Amled

Saw this on Danish TV-News.
The translation is mine.
Seems like the Pakistanis are "supping" with the Devil. Hope they have brought a long spoon!

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Ray

I thought they were getting rid of the Taleban.

So they have given up?

No wonder the Canadians are insisting that they seal the Pak Afghan border themselves from the Pakistani side!

Great guys these Pakistanis!

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lemontree

Short cuts are only temporary.

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Hari_Om

Amled,

Not just supping with the devil. More than likely providing the victuals as well.

The infuriating part is that Afghanistan and allied forces in Afghanistan are going to pay a price for all of this ( In particular see the highlighted portion) :

Pakistan truces release fighters to Afghanistan

And an earlier article saying much the same by James Rupert :

Deal may lead to more attacks

SLASH

WTF? What do the NATO forces have to say about this???WTF is Mushy thinking??F'ing retard can't choose a f'ing side.

S37eN

So are they the bad guys now

Ray

Pakistan has sold their souls to the devil.

Lunatock

I ws thinking that when they offered bin laden amnesty, and now they've given mullah omar & gulbadan hekmytar the same offer.

Amled

This, as well as the treaty with the Taleban does tend to remove them from the ranks of "staunch allies"!
Wouldn't you agree?

Ray

Tuesday, September 26, 2006 E-Mail this article to a friend Printer Friendly Version

EDITORIAL: Which Taliban are we talking about?

It is our misfortune that the word ‘Taliban’ can now mean both citizens of Afghanistan fighting the present Kabul regime, and the Pushtuns of Pakistan who seem bent upon pushing the country back into the dark ages through their brand of sharia. This is the approach taken in a story appearing in the British newspaper The Telegraph which was headlined in Pakistan yesterday. The story tells us that the “agreement” reached between the NWFP governor, General (r) Orakzai, and the jirga in North Waziristan was actually signed between President Pervez Musharraf and “the Taliban’s one-eyed spiritual leader, Mullah Umar”. It explicitly endorses the truce announced this month: “the deal between the Pakistani authorities and ‘pro-Taliban’ militants in the tribal provinces bordering Afghanistan was designed to end five years of bloodshed in the area.”

The report lumps together two provinces by calling them “tribal provinces”, thus removing all definitional partition between the elements often linked to Al Qaeda that the Pakistan Army was fighting in Waziristan, and the actual remnants of the Taliban fighters who are known to be taking shelter in the province of Balochistan, in the city of Quetta actually, barely 60 miles from the Afghan border. After President Musharraf survived attempts on his life in 2003 he announced that someone in FATA was planning and providing the wherewithal for acts of terrorism in the rest of the country. He told the nation that he was being targeted by Al Qaeda and its “foreign” activists hiding among the tribals of FATA.

Till last year, General Musharraf’s battle against “Al Qaeda’s remnants” in Waziristan, pitting 70,000 soldiers against tribesmen sheltering foreign Islamic militant fighters, had killed 300 militants in Waziristan, more than 100 of them foreigners, but also resulted in over 170 Pakistani army casualties. General Musharraf repeatedly came on television to tell us that Central Asian and Arab terrorists had been killed during the operations, including some from China’s Sinkiang province. The operation was difficult to mount because the local Pushtun tribesmen and their strongmen protected the Al Qaeda warriors for money. They were quick also to “negotiate” deals with the government in which they were “paid off”. The connection with Al Qaeda was clear in the case of Nek Muhammad, a trainer of Osama bin Laden’s military camp in Afghanistan, who was killed after he reneged on a deal he had made with the Pakistan Army. But Abdullah Mehsud, the other Waziristan rebel, had returned from Guantanamo Bay and was pursuing a vendetta with the government that had nothing to do with Mullah Umar.

The Taliban of Mullah Umar took refuge mostly in Balochistan, among the Pushtuns of Quetta, in localities like Pushtunabad, a bustling little hideout with narrow lanes, the adjoining Satellite Town and the Eastern Bypass, a sprawling suburb on the outskirts of the town. Last year the Taliban’s chief spokesman, Abdul Latif Hakimi, was arrested from Quetta. The addresses and phone numbers given to Islamabad by Afghanistan’s president Hamid Karzai during a visit to Islamabad may have been outdated but they also pointed to locations mostly in Balochistan. Therefore one can imagine an agreement between the Pakistan government and Mullah Umar in relation to the Taliban in Balochistan, but any agreement with him regarding what we have come to label as Taliban in FATA and even in parts of the NWFP would imply we have handed over the sovereignty of Pakistan to him.

We know that the 2002 vote that went to the MMA was the Pushtun vote cast in sympathy of the Taliban government toppled by the American invasion of a year earlier. The clerics who rule in Peshawar and those who are a part of the government in Quetta have longings for the hardline Islamic order imposed on Afghanistan by Mullah Umar. That is why the Pakistani clergy in elected offices has a lot to do with the outbreak of what President Musharraf calls Talibanisation of large swathes of the territory of Pakistan. For instance, while the “Taliban” rule in Miranshah in Waziristan has gained popularity by pretending to fight crime, it has also created an environment of fear by executing the so-called “bandits” and leaving their bodies hanging in the open in the “Islamic” style of the Afghan Taliban.

The Telegraph story may be wrong but it underlines a much more dangerous development linked to the “writ” of the state in Pakistan. If we ourselves describe our own tribal fanatics as the Taliban for want of a better word, the outside world can be easily deceived. The fact is that if even the Khyber Agency is coming under the influence of a fanatic faith unknown in the history of the region, only someone like Mullah Umar can be its over-all leader. Fanatical versions of Islam do not accept the state. An agreement with Mullah Umar over Waziristan, if it has at all come about, would be a negation of the state of Pakistan. (

SECOND EDITORIAL: Rumours of a coup reflect national insecurity

First reports came from America that General Pervez Musharraf had secretly gone to a small town in Texas and been hospitalised. This was cause for concern since this trip wasn’t on his announced timetable. Rumour mongers quickly concluded that perhaps he’d had a heart attack. At about the same time, a technical fault in WAPDA’s transmission network caused a nationwide power breakdown which meant that the TV screens and broadband Internet went down abruptly. The ground was ripe for rumours of a military coup, dissolution of assemblies and much worse. People calling up newspaper offices suspected the power supply had been cut to keep the country’s private TV channels from informing people about “an army takeover”.

If symptoms depend on reflex, this was a collective reflex, some Pakistani, some Third World — the ruler is overthrown when he is out of the country, as was the case of the Thai prime minister last week. And it is usually the army that takes over, even when it is already being ruled by a general. Presiding over such developments is the tragedy of a total lack of national consensus. The politicians allow governance to slide till the people want them out. The new military ruler soon gets himself into the same trouble. After that, people start fearing (some even hoping for) another toppling and another foredoomed period of misgovernment. *

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default...6-9-2006_pg3_1

Amled

Seems that a Taliban is a Taliban, no matter from whence he came.
Murderous and primitive.

ApFaq

you can say that pakistan BEEN had a deal with taliban for a while.

they are Islamic Fundamentalistic movements at large in Pakistan and that means terrorism.

Pakistan also been funding terrorism inthe past so far, so that is no big surprise

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Anoop C

I believe Hekmatyar has been captured by US troops a couple of weeks ago, so what does one make of an amnesty offer to the captured

Amled

Say Oops, and release him!
Or...tell him the offer is not retroactive, and chuck him in a hole at Camp Delta!
I'd prefere the latter!

leib10

We should've gone to Pakistan long before we ever set foot in Iraq.

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