StarCraft II

**gunnut** · 20 Mar 10,, 08:37

Guess who just got a key for closed beta?

**Big K** · 20 Mar 10,, 11:43

well we expect your insights

**Wayfarer** · 20 Mar 10,, 12:10

!!! I expect everyone on this forum to play the Dawn of the Dead mod/map when released on SC2.

Abso-spiffing-lutely tension evoking stuff. Usually the premise is: small squad of marines/near-future soldiers ( when I last played, max of 7-8 players) get dropped into ye ole' zombified city. Different classes from Firebat, demolitions, medics to recon are available ( think there were 8-9 classes on the warcraft one). Tons of teamwork to advance anywhere decent in the game. Really great stuff. Had me addicted for 4-5 months.

**Big K** · 20 Mar 10,, 12:22

Originally Posted by Lonekommie

!!! I expect everyone on this forum to play the Dawn of the Dead mod/map when released on SC2.

Abso-spiffing-lutely tension evoking stuff. Usually the premise is: small squad of marines/near-future soldiers ( when I last played, max of 7-8 players) get dropped into ye ole' zombified city. Different classes from Firebat, demolitions, medics to recon are available ( think there were 8-9 classes on the warcraft one). Tons of teamwork to advance anywhere decent in the game. Really great stuff. Had me addicted for 4-5 months.

same with that warcraft 3 map??

**Wayfarer** · 20 Mar 10,, 12:45

Yep! Dawn of the Dead is on wc3. But theres a better map for warcraft 3 called Night of the Dead: Aftermath.

This one is damn realistic, I mean, jumping off a cliff will give you a broken leg, fighting at close quarters with zombies gets you dead very, very fast. Both have advancement features (pvt-lcpl-cpl-sgt-ssgt-gysgt etc etc based on xp). After a while though, it gets repetitive, and compared to some of the flashier games around, its so/so.

With a shitbucket like mine, I aint complaining!

**bolo121** · 20 Mar 10,, 12:52

Originally Posted by gunnut

Guess who just got a key for closed beta?

!!!! Envy..

So we expect a few cool screens plus the obligatory youtube video as soon as you can.

**TTL** · 21 Mar 10,, 08:07

I really hope 3D graphics won't ruin gameplay as they did for some other RTSs (especially C&C).

**ShawnG** · 21 Mar 10,, 16:51

I haven't played any MMORPG's since Asheron's Call and Asheron's Call 2: Fallen Kings.

Too bad Turbine drove that game into the ground--I thought it was teriffic.

**gunnut** · 22 Mar 10,, 18:28

Let's see...

The Good
1. The music is fantastic
2. The game seems to run quite smooth, even with my outdated computer
3. New Battlenet has very nice interface

The Bad
1. Closed beta is multiplayer only, so I only get to play the game for 3 min before someone slaughters me
2. Limited maps with at most 2v2 settings available, for closed beta
3. The game seems like a rehashed original with minor improvements in game play and updated 3D graphics

The Ugly
1. I die in 3 minutes due to experienced players used to playing human opponents. I want to test the goddamn game, not get involved in a dick waving contest.
2. See above.

**ShawnG** · 22 Mar 10,, 20:01

nOOb.

**TTL** · 22 Mar 10,, 20:21

3. The game seems like a rehashed original with minor improvements in game play and updated 3D graphics

How can it be better than the original? It was simply perfect :D

**Big K** · 22 Mar 10,, 20:37

Originally Posted by TTL

How can it be better than the original? It was simply perfect :D

agreed. it is the best balance ever in a RTS game.

**gunnut** · 22 Mar 10,, 23:17

Originally Posted by TTL

How can it be better than the original? It was simply perfect :D

Absolutely agree. The original was the most perfect RTS of all time. Everything else was just a bunch of wannabes.

What I have noticed in the "improved" department is the option to trade 50 crystal for a robotic miner, which mines faster than the normal SCVs, but only lasts 90 seconds. I haven't had a chance to measure exactly how effective this trade off is. Of course the value is constantly being adjusted by Blizzard to balance game play.

There are probably other minor improvements, but I haven't had a chance to thoroughly test them yet.

**gunnut** · 22 Mar 10,, 23:17

Originally Posted by ShawnG

nOOb.

stfukthxbye

**cr9527** · 22 Mar 10,, 23:34

Originally Posted by gunnut

Absolutely agree. The original was the most perfect RTS of all time. Everything else was just a bunch of wannabes.

Lies! Age of Empires 2 was by far the most perfect RTS of all time

Anyhow, back to starcraft, a friend of mine, a huge fan of SC1(worships it as an immortal diety), said SC2 isn't that great.
I never bothered to play SC2 since i never enjoyed the 1st one due to the severe limitations on economic, defensive, and countering choices that AOE has.