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    David Headley gets 35 years in jail for role in Mumbai terror attacks

    Pakistani-American LeT terrorist David Headley was today sentenced to 35 years in jail by a US Court for helping plot the 2008 Mumbai terror attacks but escaped death penalty under a deal with the US government over which the judge had serious reservations.

    “The sentence I impose, I’m hopeful it will keep Mr Headley under lock and key for the rest of his natural life,” US District Judge Harry Leinenweber said on Thursday.
    Business Line : News : David Headley gets 35 years in jail for role in Mumbai terror attacks

    India to continue to push for David Headley's extradition after he gets 35 years in jail
    India on Friday said it will continue to press for extradition of David Headley from the US after the Pakistani-American LeT terrorist escaped death penalty for helping plot the 2008 Mumbai terror attack and sentenced to 35 years in jail by an American court.
    India to continue to push for David Headley's extradition after he gets 35 years in jail - The Times of India

    India continues to press for the extradition of headley so that he could be interrogated by indian police in india but the US govt has refused.

    David Headley - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Unless he violates his plea agreement India may have a long wait.

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    I think US owes to the citizens it lost in the Mumbai attack to make sure this guy never takes a step in freedom.....
    such a shame...
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    Quote Originally Posted by kuku View Post
    I think US owes to the citizens it lost in the Mumbai attack to make sure this guy never takes a step in freedom.....
    such a shame...
    I think if the Judge had his way the guy would now be sitting on Death Row.
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    dave lukins, an indian agency was given permission to interrogate him but it turned out to be absurd.

    Headley was arrested by them in the beginning of October, 2009. It has taken them eight months to grant access to the Indian investigators. Even the access which they have now agreed to give after a delay of eight months is a limited one. During this delay of eight months, the LET would have been able to cover up its trail in India, withdraw from India those of its cadres whose identities were known to Headley and reorganize and relocate its sleeper cells.

    5. The Indian investigators, it has been reported, will be allowed to question Headley in the presence of his lawyer and an official of the FBI. Do you call this interrogation? What is interrogation? It is not just questioning a person and typing out his replies. It is much more than that. It is a psychological process by which you make the suspect contradict himself by confronting him with evidence which you have been able to collect independently. Ultimately, he realizes the game is up and comes out with the truth.

    6.With Headley’s lawyer and the FBI officer sitting there all the time, will the Indian investigators be able to do it? No. Headley will just give proforma replies to the Indian questions and these replies would have been rehearsed with his lawyer and got approved by him. Of what use, his proforma replies? Will we be able to prosecute him in India? If we decide to do so, will the US extradite him to India?

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    Quote Originally Posted by anil View Post
    dave lukins, an indian agency was given permission to interrogate him but it turned out to be absurd.
    YOU'VE GOT TO BE SHITTING ME! It's called his Miranda Rights and MEN HAVE DIED defending those rights.

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    It's ridiculous that a terrorist has Miranda rights.
    This a hole should be in India along with the other US conspirator to be hanged till they die.


    Quote Originally Posted by dave lukins View Post
    I think if the Judge had his way the guy would now be sitting on Death Row.
    But he could not it seems this case was taken as a criminal case, he should face justice in India.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
    YOU'VE GOT TO BE SHITTING ME! It's called his Miranda Rights and MEN HAVE DIED defending those rights.
    it isn't about miranda rights but the character of david headley has generated an immense curiousity among indian officials about the role the US intelligence plays in india

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    Quote Originally Posted by anil View Post
    it isn't about miranda rights but the character of david headley has generated an immense curiousity among indian officials about the role the US intelligence plays in india
    What's the role US intelligence plays in India?
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    Quote Originally Posted by anil View Post
    it isn't about miranda rights but the character of david headley has generated an immense curiousity among indian officials about the role the US intelligence plays in india
    His Miranda trumps your curiousity while in the United States. Tough cookies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anil View Post
    dave lukins, an indian agency was given permission to interrogate him but it turned out to be absurd.
    Its called rights, and yes, even scumbags have them. We Indians need to probably start demanding these sorts of rights from our authorities ourselves. Interrogation done without a lawyer's presence is coercion.

    "Psychological process" my foot, B Raman is a brainwashed idiot for writing this. No one, not even terrorist scumbags, should have to say anything to the cops, unless they want to.

    Yes, its frustrating when we see people whom we think of as confirmed scumbags afforded these rights. But when we push to do away with them, they can affect any of us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by antimony View Post
    Its called rights, and yes, even scumbags have them. We Indians need to probably start demanding these sorts of rights from our authorities ourselves. Interrogation done without a lawyer's presence is coercion.
    Wonder which lawyer was present when the guys in gitmo were being interrogated. The US doesn't shy away from breaking their own rules when their citizens are under threat from foreigners.

    The only problem here is that India has no leverage over the US to force them to give up Headley. If the situation were reversed, the US would have arm-twisted the Indian govt. into giving him up long ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firestorm View Post
    Wonder which lawyer was present when the guys in gitmo were being interrogated. The US doesn't shy away from breaking their own rules when their citizens are under threat from foreigners.
    That has faced near universal incrimination. Also, even if you allow that I do not think Headley or anyone can be legally convicted on the strength of such "interrogation"

    Quote Originally Posted by Firestorm View Post
    The only problem here is that India has no leverage over the US to force them to give up Headley. If the situation were reversed, the US would have arm-twisted the Indian govt. into giving him up long ago.
    And shame on any Indian government who acquiesces to that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by antimony View Post
    And shame on any Indian government who acquiesces to that.
    But would they? Would the Government have handed him the the US if asked? Would he have been allowed US defence council if not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave lukins View Post
    But would they? Would the Government have handed him the the US if asked? Would he have been allowed US defence council if not?
    I would think so, if he had been involved in the biggest terror attack in the US. Even if they didn't want to, they might not have had a choice if the US threatened economic sanctions or military action.

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