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    Quote Originally Posted by Firestorm View Post
    Till recently, the pakistanis were trying to convince everybody that the Americans were able to locate Osama because of ISI help, and that's why the Americans should have kept them in the loop when they decided to take him out.

    So now, if Dr. Afridi is guilty of treason, then so is the ISI. Unless of course they were lying to us in the first place. (which is what everyone believes anyway)
    And I think the Pakistanis dropped that line of bullshit because everybody was laughing at their wishful thinking

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    By finding him guilty they have argued that OBL was a secret asset to the state, and by revealing that secret Afridi has damaged the state.
    Its not really a revalation that Pakistan is not a US ally, and not even a friendly neutral - but it is significant that this public statement by their governemnt indicates that they considered OBL to be under their protection - and by protecting OBL, they support terrorism against the US. Now, why the hell are we sending them money?
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    Quote Originally Posted by USSWisconsin View Post
    Its not really a revalation that Pakistan is not a US ally, and not even a friendly neutral - but it is significant that this public statement by their governemnt indicates that they considered OBL to be under their protection - and by protecting with OBL they support terrorism against the US. Now, why the hell are we sending them money?
    Because as a nation you're hopeless at giving up on lost causes?

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    The PA baffles me. It is probably one of the rarest of professionally trained armies which has tried for so long, and quite successfully, to both milk and punch its proclaimed ally. They seem genius at this double game. There is such a great ridge at its upper echeleons and lower ranks. The common Jawan'ss Unit handbook is full of routines and rhetorics, the top masters are so trecherous in their dealings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USSWisconsin View Post
    Its not really a revalation that Pakistan is not a US ally, and not even a friendly neutral - but it is significant that this public statement by their governemnt indicates that they considered OBL to be under their protection - and by protecting with OBL they support terrorism against the US. Now, why the hell are we sending them money?
    Maybe to soften their position and to make them open the roads for the withdrawal.

    I have read somewhere it will cost up to 10x more and it will last 3x longer if the withdrawal is done from anywhere else.

    That's of course not considering opening a route trough Iran
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    A Dr huh , he should be given a reward for helping to save lives getting rid of that twat laden IMO , jeeez an out n out admission that they (P/govt) knew he was there and were harbouring him


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    Quote Originally Posted by USSWisconsin View Post
    Its not really a revalation that Pakistan is not a US ally, and not even a friendly neutral - but it is significant that this public statement by their governemnt indicates that they considered OBL to be under their protection - and by protecting with OBL they support terrorism against the US. Now, why the hell are we sending them money?
    There is talk of a $million being taken off the aid sent for every year of his sentence.

    "A US Senate panel has cut $33m (£21m) in aid to Pakistan in response to the jailing of a Pakistani doctor who helped the CIA find Osama Bin Laden".
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    Between the OBL raid and Dr Afridi's arrest 20 days elapsed so had the US considered him to be at risk from Pakistani authorities he would have been withdrawn. Yet he remained... and not to serve any future role in the OBL mission. You can be sure that other CIA staff were in and around the area before and possibly during the raid but were withdrawn after it's completion. Why did this Dr remain? The chances are that he didn't even know that he was working for the CIA.

    Nor can the stated account of the raid be the whole story in my opinion: When you arrive you crash a helicopter in 'garrison town' and yet you still have 30-40mins to clear a compound from bottom up and gather other materials and clear out BEFORE the local police, fire brigade or whatever turn up? Sure about that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Double Edge View Post
    Afridi was sentenced to treason because he assisted a foreign intel agency in targetting a Pakistani asset.
    Fixed, don't be shy we know the truth. I hope Pakistan rots, for damn near a decade now all we've heard is whining out of Pakistan about how GWOT is unfair. Then we find OBL living comfortably amongst the muckety-mucks of the Pakistani army and when found and executed Pakistan dares complain....
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    Comfortably?

    British prisons are more comfortable then OBL's penthouse in Pakistan was

    At least they have internet, telephone...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doktor View Post
    Comfortably?

    British prisons are more comfortable then OBL's penthouse in Pakistan was

    At least they have internet, telephone...
    As opposed to his fabled cave residence in Afghanistan.

    OBL had an actual roof over his head and rudimentary creature comforts.
    It wasn't the Taj Mahal by any stretch but neither was he sleeping on a cold cave floor in the border badlands of Afghanistan and Pakistan.

    And more to the point, for years he didn't have to spend every waking minute wondering when a GBU-24 or AGM-114 was going to knock on his front door.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doktor View Post
    Comfortably?

    British prisons are more comfortable then OBL's penthouse in Pakistan was

    At least they have internet, telephone...
    Yes comfortably- he fathered children, had access to the outside world to command and control AQ, lived as a quest of country supposedly at war with him, likely had high ranking Pakistani visitors and had numerous other visitors, access to medical care, the foods he wanted to eat.... Very comfortable

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    Quote Originally Posted by zraver View Post
    Yes comfortably- he fathered children, had access to the outside world to command and control AQ, lived as a quest of country supposedly at war with him, likely had high ranking Pakistani visitors and had numerous other visitors, access to medical care, the foods he wanted to eat.... Very comfortable
    ..and his wive(s).

    Well Doktor, he was not the best person known to use internet and telephone

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    I bet he was not too comfortable when his last vistors arrived (ST6)
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