Thread: Welcome To Pakistan

Originally Posted by Tronic

Errr.. Thats not what that sentence meant. It meant that the people you are fighting for control of PAKISTANI land, are the people who concentrate less on launching attacks into Afghanistan than they concentrate on attacking Pakistan. So really you should be the last one to be laying down comparisons at a time when the US has far more control of the situation in Afghanistan than the Pakistanis have control of the situation in Pakistan.

Appreciating the US efforts against WOT but facts showing a different view and America's control over Afghanistan is not so good because if they have good control over situation than their army commander in Afghanistan didn't call for more troops, and even more & more, US has control over several meters beyond their camps or stations or bases in Afghanistan and we can't say, it is success or control.

Current situation in between Pakistan & India:

ISLAMABAD: Interior Minister Rehman Malik has said that there is clear evidence of Indian involvement in Balochistan and that New Delhi should not be pointing fingers at Islamabad.

The interior minister said that India must be prepared to come to the table and discuss their concerns. He added that Pakistan is well aware of the Indian involvement in Balochistan and if given the opportunity, they will present officials in New Delhi with concrete evidence.

He was responding to Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s statements, when the federal minister warned that India should not hurl accusations at Pakistan as it is fighting a war on terror and is also holding trials of the Mumbai attack suspects. He said that India should respect Pakistan’s judicial system.

Commenting upon the Indian allegations, Malik warned against them, saying Indian Home Minister should see about their home first, as it is beset with flaws and failings, adding criticizing Pakistan would not set their issues right.

Condemning the twin bombings at the International Islamic University in Islamabad yesterday, the federal interior minister stressed that militants are now aiming to create panic in the country and that innocent civilians are being targeted.

Pakistan is not weak; it knows how to defend itself, said Malik. He assured that security zones will be set up in the federal capital.

So in my view India & Pakistan are both in same situation but both countries doesn't like to solve problems appropriately.

Pakistan is not weak; it knows how to defend itself, said Malik. He assured that security zones will be set up in the federal capital.

I'm noticing a contradiction here.

Originally Posted by diplomaticview

Appreciating the US efforts against WOT but facts showing a different view and America's control over Afghanistan is not so good because if they have good control over situation than their army commander in Afghanistan didn't call for more troops, and even more & more, US has control over several meters beyond their camps or stations or bases in Afghanistan and we can't say, it is success or control.

If you feel the need to start screaming out, "you're loosing!", try Islamabad first; because whatever control the US has in Afghanistan, it is still far greater than the control Pakistan has on its own territory.

Current situation in between Pakistan & India:



So in my view India & Pakistan are both in same situation but both countries doesn't like to solve problems appropriately.

That is only for Pakistani domestic consumption. The day Pakistan brings that evidence to the international community, that's the day people outside Pakistan will start to take those claims seriously. But so far, it is nothing but an old Pakistani trait, deception, even if it has to be against your own people; blame India for all of Pakistan's own f*ck ups and deflect all anger away from the Pakistani leadership and unto India. It is unfortunate for the Pakistani citizens that they actually buy all that bull; and has been a big reason why since 1947 Pakistan has been going downhill into the gutters. Had Pakistan accepted its flaws from the start, maybe it could've ironed them out by now. It didn't, so now you have a state on the brink of failure. And, yet again, it is all India's fault.

"And, yet again, it is all India's fault."

Ummm...no. It's OUR fault too, remember?

We ABANDONED them.

Of course, had we stayed in Afghanistan following the Soviet departure, EVERYBODY would have been screaming about our neo-colonial ambitions in a place to which we'd held no historical interests. Further had we expressed our intention to stay, I highly doubt the Soviets would have even agreeed to leave at all.

More likely they'd have doubled-down themselves in 1988 and so much for glasnost and peristroika.

CAR didn't exist then. Those were SOVIET republics and there's no way that Gorbachev could have survived THAT abdication of their near empire.

Originally Posted by S-2

"And, yet again, it is all India's fault."

Ummm...no. It's OUR fault too, remember?

We ABANDONED them.

Of course, had we stayed in Afghanistan following the Soviet departure, EVERYBODY would have been screaming about our neo-colonial ambitions in a place to which we'd held no historical interests. Further had we expressed our intention to stay, I highly doubt the Soviets would have even agreeed to leave at all.

More likely they'd have doubled-down themselves in 1988 and so much for glasnost and peristroika.

CAR didn't exist then. Those were SOVIET republics and there's no way that Gorbachev could have survived THAT abdication of their near empire.

Ai, it must be true. How can a Pakistani ever make a bad decision?

They are a very confused lot. I don't interact on political issues with most Pakistanis now. No discussion can be carried out without it being filled with some sort of conspiracy against Pak. There are some good chaps out there who can call a spade a spade, but for the vast majority of them; god help them!