Warship Camo

Dreadnought · 03-16-2007, 07:53 AM

I was just wondering to the gentlemen here that would know.

Does the U.S. still use camoflauge on any warships? And if they do, Is it the older style or have they assigned new camo and a new numbering scheme?

ArmchairGeneral · 03-16-2007, 11:37 AM

You mean like the WWII dazzle paint schemes? I think they decided those were mostly ineffective. Plain 'ol grey works fine for most ships. Although I think there's some sort of Special Ops boat that's painted black or very dark grey.

Dazzle did look kinda cool though, and there's a photo of the Bismarck in dazzle camo where I never did figure out which way she was turning. Perspective was all screwed up by the paint scheme.

Dreadnought · 03-16-2007, 13:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ArmchairGeneral

You mean like the WWII dazzle paint schemes? I think they decided those were mostly ineffective. Plain 'ol grey works fine for most ships. Although I think there's some sort of Special Ops boat that's painted black or very dark grey.

Dazzle did look kinda cool though, and there's a photo of the Bismarck in dazzle camo where I never did figure out which way she was turning. Perspective was all screwed up by the paint scheme.

My bad on wording. I meant to ask if they were going to use it on the newer LCS and other brown water military craft.

Amaterasu · 03-16-2007, 13:48 PM

Concept art for LCS 2 to be made by GD shows an interesting camo pattern...don't know if she is going to get it though.

RAL's_pal? · 03-16-2007, 16:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dreadnought

Does the U.S. still use camoflauge on any warships? And if they do, Is it the older style or have they assigned new camo and a new numbering scheme?

You mean you haven't seen the camouflage on today's battleships? Every time the news does a story on warships, they mention battleships and all I see are images of frigates, destroyers and cruisers. Very talented marine artists........ cRusty, can you explain how they do that?

RustyBattleship · 03-16-2007, 18:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RAL's_pal?

You mean you haven't seen the camouflage on today's battleships? Every time the news does a story on warships, they mention battleships and all I see are images of frigates, destroyers and cruisers. Very talented marine artists........ cRusty, can you explain how they do that?

Yes. They wash the Battleships in hot water and they shrink upon drying. Works quite well but you're not supposed to use liquid bleach.

texasjohn · 03-16-2007, 22:44 PM

The Iowa Class will always have a special spot in my heart!! simply majestic!

What sort of camo did they use?

RustyBattleship · 03-17-2007, 00:35 AM

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Originally Posted by texasjohn

The Iowa Class will always have a special spot in my heart!! simply majestic!

What sort of camo did they use?

Actually not really a camo. While still on Sea Trials in WW II, both the North Carolina and New Jersey were painted blue. Not a bright blue of course but a light blue to see if they could blend in with the sky behind them from a ground observer. They were nicknamed "The Blue Ghosts".

Thanks to some experiments done on a miss-named Destroyer Escort in 1944, Haze Gray was the best blending in color, especially on Hazy Days. The undersides of overhanging platforms were painted Off-White to cut down on shadowing against the bulkheads.

smilingassassin · 03-17-2007, 05:46 AM

Missouri was completed with the Measure 32/D camo scheme, using Navy Blue, Haze Grey and Pale Grey in a long wavy pattern. IIRC she later adopted the all navy blue measure 21 scheme.

Wisconsin used the Measure 22 scheme, which used Navy blue up to the lowest piont of the main deck and Haze grey on all other virticle surfaces. Iowa also sported the measure 22 scheme.

Other popular schemes for BB's was Measure 12 which used Sea Blue, Ocean grey and Haze grey in a short virticle wavy pattern and Measure 1, using Dary grey on all verticle surfaces up to the funnel caps, everything above was painted Light Grey.

Dreadnought · 03-19-2007, 08:16 AM

Always thought the Measure 22 "dazzle" was a cool looking scheme.

Dreadnought · 03-19-2007, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by RustyBattleship

Yes. They wash the Battleships in hot water and they shrink upon drying. Works quite well but you're not supposed to use liquid bleach.

To people like that they are all battleships...LOL

RAL's_pal? · 03-19-2007, 09:09 AM

I see cRusty changed his avatar a bit, now it's more of a crop. I just realized that it was so long ago, that he was in his mid 40's back then. So.... instead of cRusty back then, I guess he was just Tarnished.....

Another observation is that this board pretty much comes to a stand still during weekends.... Are most of the members posting from their work computers?

Dreadnought · 03-19-2007, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RAL's_pal?

I see cRusty changed his avatar a bit, now it's more of a crop. I just realized that it was so long ago, that he was in his mid 40's back then. So.... instead of cRusty back then, I guess he was just Tarnished.....

Another observation is that this board pretty much comes to a stand still during weekends.... Are most of the members posting from their work computers?

A few days of ice patrol and damage control on the homefront...lol

Michigan_Guy · 03-19-2007, 18:17 PM

I've been on vacation for a week now, so I at least get on and read everyday.

BTW, what the heck is the LCS 2? Looks expensive, and why does it have manned AA guns???

smilingassassin · 03-21-2007, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Dreadnought

Always thought the Measure 22 "dazzle" was a cool looking scheme.

I assume you meant measure 32 as the 22 was a graded system were as 32 was a dazzle system. Both are great looking schemes.

US Navy Camouflage

03-16-2007, 07:53 AM	#1 (permalink)
Dreadnought *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 05-12-05 Posts: 5,327 Country:	Warship Camo I was just wondering to the gentlemen here that would know. Does the U.S. still use camoflauge on any warships? And if they do, Is it the older style or have they assigned new camo and a new numbering scheme? __________________ Fortitude.....The strength to persist...The courage to endure.

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ArmchairGeneral Devil's Advocate *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 05-03-06 Location: The boonies of NC, USA. Posts: 2,747 Country:	You mean like the WWII dazzle paint schemes? I think they decided those were mostly ineffective. Plain 'ol grey works fine for most ships. Although I think there's some sort of Special Ops boat that's painted black or very dark grey. Dazzle did look kinda cool though, and there's a photo of the Bismarck in dazzle camo where I never did figure out which way she was turning. Perspective was all screwed up by the paint scheme. __________________ "Apocalyptic thought is curiously pleasurable." -Theodore Dalrymple

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texasjohn *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 07-28-06 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 1,005 Country:	The Iowa Class will always have a special spot in my heart!! simply majestic! What sort of camo did they use? Last edited by texasjohn : 03-16-2007 at 22:47 PM.

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smilingassassin *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 12-12-03 Location: Vancouver Canada Posts: 2,719 Country:	Missouri was completed with the Measure 32/D camo scheme, using Navy Blue, Haze Grey and Pale Grey in a long wavy pattern. IIRC she later adopted the all navy blue measure 21 scheme. Wisconsin used the Measure 22 scheme, which used Navy blue up to the lowest piont of the main deck and Haze grey on all other virticle surfaces. Iowa also sported the measure 22 scheme. Other popular schemes for BB's was Measure 12 which used Sea Blue, Ocean grey and Haze grey in a short virticle wavy pattern and Measure 1, using Dary grey on all verticle surfaces up to the funnel caps, everything above was painted Light Grey. __________________ Facts to a liberal is like Kryptonite to Superman. -- Larry Elder

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Michigan_Guy Regular Join Date: 02-02-07 Location: Detroit, Michigan Posts: 71 Country:	I've been on vacation for a week now, so I at least get on and read everyday. BTW, what the heck is the LCS 2? Looks expensive, and why does it have manned AA guns??? __________________ "If a man does his best, what else is there?" -General George Patton Jr.

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Amaterasu Contributor Join Date: 05-16-06 Location: Drinking sake in Kyoto. Posts: 713	Concept art for LCS 2 to be made by GD shows an interesting camo pattern...don't know if she is going to get it though.

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Dreadnought *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 05-12-05 Posts: 5,327 Country:	Always thought the Measure 22 "dazzle" was a cool looking scheme.

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RAL's_pal? *Defense Professional* Join Date: 01-22-06 Posts: 472	I see cRusty changed his avatar a bit, now it's more of a crop. I just realized that it was so long ago, that he was in his mid 40's back then. So.... instead of cRusty back then, I guess he was just Tarnished..... Another observation is that this board pretty much comes to a stand still during weekends.... Are most of the members posting from their work computers?

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