Battleship Tactics

[Defcon 6]

Hello everyone,

I've created this thread to explain my Big Battleship Doctrine in a more advanced light concerning tactics.

I'm going to post a combat scenario or two to explain how a modern advanced battleship can or will wage war.

We will use my Exalibur class Advanced Battleship as the example BB.

U.S Navy 21st Fleet (10 ship group)
Fleet:
x1 Nimitz Class Carrier
x2 LCS Class Littoral Attack Craft
x3 DD(X) Class Multimission Destroyers
x2 Exalibur Class Advanced Battleship
x1 Virginia Class Attack Submarine
x1 SeaWolf Class Attack Submarine

AC carries:
x20 F-35 Join Strike Fighters
x36 F/A-18 Super Hornets


Enemy Fleet (15 Ship Group)
Fleet:
x2 Kuznetsof Class Carrier
x4 Mirage Class Patrol Boat
x5 Kirov Class Heavy Missile Cruiser
x2 Type 11540 Frigates
x2 Akula II Class Attack Subamrines

Each AC has:
x16 Mig-29K Fulcrum
x12 Su-27K Flanker
(I'm being VERY generous with this fleet fitting, the Russians only have 2 Kirov class cruisers in service)

Combat Scenario: The Russians work with the Chinese and when the Chinese make a rush for Taiwan Russia takes their side. Russian naval forces move into the North Atlantic and Baltic. Thats where the 2 fleets spec'd above meet.
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U.S.N has superior fire control, takes first round.
Round 1-
x1 Nimitz Class Carrier:
Launches x24 Super Hornets and x10 F-35's

x3 DD(X):
Each ship fires x18 Tactical Tomahawk Cruise Missiles illuminating x2 Kuznetsof aircraft carriers

x2 Exalibur Class Adv. Battleships:
Each ship fires x60 Tactical Tomahawk Cruise Missiles illuminating x5 Kirov Cruisers

x1 Virginia Class Attack Sub:
Fires x 4 Tactical Tomahawk Cruise Missiles illuminating Kuznetsof carriers

Moving to Mid range-

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Round 2-
x2 Kuznetsof Carriers:
Each launch x10 Mig-29K and x10 Su-27K
***Intercepts x19 Tomahawk Cruise Missiles
***Intercepts x11 Tomahawk Cruise Missiles
***Battle damage, 12 Cruise missile hits
***Battle damage, 9 cruise missile hits (3 miss)
*Fatal x1
*Fatal x1

x4 Mirage Class Patrol Boats:
sprint speed towards USN fleet

x4 Kirov Class Missile Cruisers:
each ship fires x20 SS-N-19 Shipwreck AS missiles illuminating Nimitz Carrier
***Intercepts x16 Tactical Tomahawk Missiles
***Intercepts x4 Tactical Tomahawk Missiles
***Intercepts x8 Tactical Tomahawk Cruise Missiles
***Intercepts x22 Tactical Tomahawk Cruise Missiles
***Intercepts x10 Tactical Tomahawk Cruise Missiles
***Battle damage, 3 Tactical Tomahawk Missile hits
***Battle damage, 1 tactical tomahawk cruise missile hits
***Battle damage, 13 tactical tomahawk cruise missile hits
***Battle damage, 1 tactical tomahawk cruise missile hits
***Battle damage, 2 tactical tomahawk cruise missile hits
**Surplus miss due to ECM
*Fatal x 1
*Fatal x 1

x2 11540 Frigates:
Each fires x16 Ki variant cruise missiles illuminating Exalibur BB's
***Battle damage, 1 cruise missile hit
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Round 3-
Aircraft fight:
x10 F-35 fire x20 phenoix A-A missiles
x12 F/A-18 fire x8 Pheonix A-A missiles

x4 Mig-29K fire x9 Archer A-A missiles
x10 Su-27K fire x18 Archer A-A missiles

***Battle damage, x6 Mig-29K casualties
***Battle Damage, x4 Su-27K casualties
***battle damage x4 F/A-18 casualties

x1 Nimitz Class Carrier
***Intercepts x18 SS-N-19 Missiles
***Battle damage, x4 SS-N-19 hits

x3 DD(X):
Fires x4 Tactical Tomahawks illuminating Mirage class patrol boats
***intercepts x8 Ki variant cruise missiles,

x2 Exalibur Class Adv. BB: Closing Warfare Initiated, grouping with LCS class ships
Escort: x1 SeaWolf Class forging

Fires x22 Tactical Tomahawk Missiles Illuminating x3 Kirov Cruisers
Fires x11 ESSM
***Intercepts x16 Ki Variant cruise missiles
***Intercepts x 3 Ki Variant cruise missiles
***Battle Damage, x4 Ki cruise missile hits
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Round 4-
Aircraft fight:
ESSM's-
Total Mig-29K Casualties
Su-27K fire x5 AS-20 Kayak missiles

U.S.N air forces returning to carrier.

x3 Kirov Cruisers turn starboard at cruise spd.
***Intercepts x6 Tactical Tomahawk Missiles
***Intercepts x4 Tactical Tomahawk Missiles
***Intercepts x3 Tactical Tomahawk Missiles
***Battle damage, x2 Tactical Tomahawk hits

x2 Type 11540 turn starboard at cruise spd.
Fires x 6 Ki variant cruise missiles illuminating approaching Exalibur class BB's

x4 Mirage Patrol Boats turn aft
***intercepts x2 Tactical Tomahawk Missiles
***Battle damage, 1 tac tom hit
***Battle damage, 1 tact tom hit
*Fatal x 2
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Round 5-
DD(X):
***Intercepts x4 AS-20 Kayak Missiles
***Battle Damage, x1 AS-20 hit
*Fatal x1

x2 Exalibur Class Advanced Battleships:
Fires x15 Harpoon AS missles illuminating Type 11540 frigates

Fires x9 16 inch GPS shells targeting Kirov class cruisers

Fires x5 155mm GPS shells targeting Mirage Patrol Boats (closer)
***Intercepts x5 Ki variant cruise missiles
***Battle damage, x1 Ki variant missile hit
***Battle damage, x2 Torpedo hit/ Return fire, Mk.48 torpedo, 1 Akula II casualty

x2 LCS:
Fires 5 Harpoon AS Missiles illuminating Mirage Patrol boats
***Battle damage, x1 torpedo hit/ Return fire by SeaWolf Class Attack, 1 Akula II Casualty

*Fatal x1

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Round 6-

Kirov Class Cruisers:
***Battle damage, x2 16" shell hits
***Battle damage, x1 16" shell hit
***Battle damage, x3 16" shell hits
*Fatal x1
*Fatal x1
*Fatal x1


x 2 Type 11540 Frigates
***Battle damage, x4 5" shell hits
***Battle damage, x1 5" shell hit
***Intercepts x5 Harpoon missiles
***Intercepts x3 Harpoon missiles
***Battle damage, x3 Harpoon hits
***Battle damage, x1 Harpoon hit
*Fatal x1
*Fatal x1

x2 Mirage Patrol Boats
***Battle Damage, x3 Harpoon hits
***Battle damage, x1 Harpoon hit
*Fatal x1
*Fatal x1
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Round 7-
x1 Nimitz Class:
***Battle damage, x1 torpedo hit/ undetected x1 Akula II enter combat
Virginia class returns fire, x1 Akula class casualty

X2 DD(X) class:
***Battle damage, x1 torpedo hit/ Undetected x1 Akula II enter combat
*Fatal x1
anti-sub missile returned fire, 1 Akula II casualty


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END GAME/ U.S.N Victory

[Defcon 6]

Summary FAQ:

Q; Where can I find information on your BB designs?
A: In my Big Battleship Doctrine thread.

Q: Why didn't the U.S.N aircraft fire their anti ship weaponry?
A: Because it wasn't neded. It was already a losing battle for the Russians.

Q: The BB's didn't use their guns that much, so why have them?
A: Because if cruise missiles had been used, then it would have cost far more money, and missiles are more likely to be intercepted. The Russian ships had already mostly ran out of cruise missile ordinance at that point, so why use expensive ammo? And also, the BB's were responsible for most of the early round kills, with their ability to missile swarm the enemy fleet. By using their 16 and 5" guns the two BB's saved about $30+ million dollars in cruise missiles.

Q: How long did this scenario procced over?
A: The scenario reads as if it took only ten or so minutes. But in truth it took place over hours. As most modern naval battles would.

[Defcon 6]

Okay. About the tactics, I'm thinking the plan of attack above is a great opener. It has the firepower advantage in every way. And it's an enormous force multiplier. The missile swarms my two BB's opened up with is a must. Catching the enemy with brute force is sometimes very effective.

Also, I think they used their guns at the right time. Does anyone agree?

Although I'm not sure whether it detached at the right time for it's closing and evasive warfare tactic.

As a BB supporter trying to find the best tactics, I challenge anyone here to design a 10 ship fleet (modern) to take on my BB fleet. The BB really is superior to any ship on the sea today.

[thesaint]

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END GAME/ U.S.N Victory

Looks very accurate, but what if the Russians have an Elf Magician 6th level with them ?

[Bill]

Lol!

[Defcon 6]

Looks very accurate, but what if the Russians have an Elf Magician 6th level with them ?

Oh, Vladimir Putin isn't so bad.

[Defcon 6]

Fleet Characteristics:

Carrier Group-
x1 CVN Class Aircraft Carrier
x4 CG(X) Class Cruisers
x2 BB(X) Class Advanced Battleships
x2 BC(X) Class Advanced Battlecruisers
x4 DD(X) Class Destroyers
x3 Virginia Class Nuclear Attack Submarines
x1 Ohio Class SSGN submarine
x2 LCS class Attack ships

Surface Combat Group-
x5 DD(X) Class Destroyers
x5 LCS class Attack ships
x4 BC(X) Advanced Battlecruisers
x2 Virginia Class Attack subs

Tactical Battleship Group-
x1 BB(X2) Illinois Class Advanced Battleship
x4 BB(X) Class Advanced Battleships
x4 DD(X) Class Destroyers
x2 SeaWolf Class Attack Subs
x1 Ohio Class SSGN
x3 LCS Attack ships

Submarine Wolfpack-
x6 Virginia Class Attack subs
x4 SeaWolf Class Attack subs
x2 Ohio Class SSGN


The reasoning behind the BB(X) and variations is the fact that a Nimitz cost 13.4 billion dollars. The idea is to build fewer ships for the future USN, so fewer more capable carriers, combined with economical BB(X)'s.

BB(X) and it's variations are all force multipliers, so there use is not simply limited to shore support. Guided munitions now have the capability of striking tactical targets. Making sea warfare using guns possible once again.

And it's far more difficult to intercept a Mach 5+ artillery shell than a Mach 2+ missile. Or a subsonic tomahawk for that matter. Thats why I believe in a combined doctrine, big guns and advanced missiles have no competition.

Another reason for the BB(X) is the future of rail gun technology.

[The Chap]

one spy and the wrong orders