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Ray
12 Dec 05,, 18:38
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Fatwa calls for death to Karzai

SPIN BOLDAK: Taliban have issued a fatwa (religious decree) calling for President Hamid Karzai to be killed for serving American and British “infidels”.

The decree came in a 12-page Pashto-language booklet distributed in the Afghan south. It reiterated a call for jihad against infidels and their slaves. “It should be remembered that there is no difference between infidels and their agents and jihad against them has become incumbent,” the fatwa said.

The document was written by three Taliban Muslim scholars and approved by a council of about 100, a Taliban spokesman said.

“Jihad against all the slaves of Americans and the British, including Hamid Karzai, has become incumbent and they deserve to be killed,” it said. US and Afghan opposition troops forced the Taliban from power in late 2001 after they refused to give up Osama bin Laden, architect of the September 11 attacks on the United States.

Taliban fighters have been waging an insurgency against the US-backed Karzai government and the US forces since then.

More than 1,100 people have been killed in violence this year, including nearly 60 US troops.

The fatwa described British and Americans as “Jewish and Christian ... infidels who cannot be friends of Muslims”. It also called on Afghan Muslims “not to be misled by the infidels’ sweet talk and temptation”, and to join the Taliban fight to force them to leave Afghanistan.

The US leads a force of about 20,000 battling the Taliban and hunting for militant leaders. British troops are part of a 10,000-strong North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO)-led peacekeeping force, mostly based in central, northern and eastern areas. reuters
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2005\12\12\story_12-12-2005_pg7_6

A very interesting development.

Interesting because Musharraf and his government is more "slavish" to the dictates of the US and UK and yet there is no fatwa against the General!

It appears that there is more to it than what meets the eye.

The fact that while Musharraf went ballistics about the madrassas as also the foreign students being expelledm on both issues he ate crow.

Now, while it may appear that Musharraf is helpless, the fact that the Islamists are tolerating Musharraf and without issuing a fatwa inspite of cooperating with the "great white Satan" hand and foot is highly suspicious.

It does lead to the belief that Musharraf's ranting is for the US gallery and he is actually in cohorts with the Islamists and thus forgiven for his omissions and commissions! Publicly, he is no less a "slave".

The US is being taken for a ride?

Monk
13 Dec 05,, 17:46
A very interesting development.

Interesting because Musharraf and his government is more "slavish" to the dictates of the US and UK and yet there is no fatwa against the General!

It appears that there is more to it than what meets the eye.

The fact that while Musharraf went ballistics about the madrassas as also the foreign students being expelledm on both issues he ate crow.

Now, while it may appear that Musharraf is helpless, the fact that the Islamists are tolerating Musharraf and without issuing a fatwa inspite of cooperating with the "great white Satan" hand and foot is highly suspicious.

It does lead to the belief that Musharraf's ranting is for the US gallery and he is actually in cohorts with the Islamists and thus forgiven for his omissions and commissions! Publicly, he is no less a "slave".

The US is being taken for a ride?

It is quite possible sir. I wouldn't put it past the "esteemed" general. ;)

Samudra
15 Dec 05,, 04:00
I think Mushy has been doing the same thing ever since 9/11.

What was the name of the place in Afghanistan from where Pakistani Army Officials were airlifted to safety while the Americans were bombing Taliban positions ?

hammer
15 Dec 05,, 06:52
What was the name of the place in Afghanistan from where Pakistani Army Officials were airlifted to safety while the Americans were bombing Taliban positions ?

siege of Konduz.

Samudra
15 Dec 05,, 14:45
Yep.

Now you see, the PA Officers were actually trying to errr negotiate with the bloody Taliban. :rolleyes:

The Front Lying State in the War on Terror has made so many sacrifices!

platinum786
16 Dec 05,, 10:52
The general is more shrewd then he lets on.

This is the man who was in charge of Kargil, does he apear like a straight forward guy.
He has more sides than a circle, how many sides on a circle boys?

You see he keeps everyone happy, one's policy is implemented here, another policiy is implemented there, the best thing is he's doing soemthing positive, actively positive for everyone. Nobody loses out, therefore nobody can play power games over him.

The mulllah are his play dough to manipulate, and they are too fractioned and stupid to see it.

Karzai is mayor of Kabul, a dead karzai would be a positive thing...it might put a man with leadership capability in charge rather than this time passing numpty.

Monk
16 Dec 05,, 15:33
Karzai is mayor of Kabul, a dead karzai would be a positive thing...it might put a man with leadership capability in charge rather than this time passing numpty.

These are the kind of statements you don't make about elected leaders of other countries. "Bad boy, bad boy, whatchu gonna do when they come for you...". In your case the MI6. ;)

platinum786
19 Dec 05,, 00:34
lol....little do you know...

seriusly i am laughing....you'll never understand why...

Samudra
19 Dec 05,, 04:51
For Gods sake use a spell checker Platinum!

I mean cant you just type 'seriously' ?
And whats with these dots everywhere in your post ?

Monk
19 Dec 05,, 17:05
lol....little do you know...

seriusly i am laughing....you'll never understand why...

I hope you are not going to tell me that you are in a British Jail and you are using your daily library time to post on this site. ;)

Whatever be the reason feel free to share, I would really like to know. And as far as understanding goes, I have surprised a lot of people, just try me. ;)

troung
23 Dec 05,, 06:13
Now you see, the PA Officers were actually trying to errr negotiate with the bloody Taliban. The Front Lying State in the War on Terror has made so many sacrifices!

Well they kind of had to get their guys out of Konduz. Everyone knows that they had advisors with the Taliban, no shock there.

Srirangan
23 Dec 05,, 06:39
Well they kind of had to get their guys out of Konduz. Everyone knows that they had advisors with the Taliban, no shock there.
Gee "advisers" is such a nice term. Though "mentors" is the correct one. Tch tch. ;)

Samudra
23 Dec 05,, 09:34
Surprising that nobody has claimed they were advising Taliban to surrender in Konduz. ;)

lemontree
23 Dec 05,, 10:03
Surprising that nobody has claimed they were advising Taliban to surrender in Konduz. ;)
That is because over 5000 PA officers and men were evacuated - too large a "delegation" one might say. :biggrin:

lemontree
23 Dec 05,, 10:04
The US is being taken for a ride?[/FONT]
Sir,
The US knows it, but they may have something up their sleeve that we may not be aware of.

Srirangan
23 Dec 05,, 10:18
Sir,
The US knows it, but they may have something up their sleeve that we may not be aware of.
Or they might not. The question remains "how smart the current administration really is?", a question that more and more Americans are not too confident to answer. ;)

lemontree
23 Dec 05,, 13:17
Sri,
If the internet is measure of judging the american opinion, then I would say that they are quite clued up on the Pak game plan, it is just that they making the best of their resources (it does not make sense to bomb Pakistan - there is not overt threat to the US yet).

Ray
23 Dec 05,, 13:41
Lemontree,

Who knows what the Americans are up to!

They have "converted" Musharraf and who knows how much of money they are laying thick on the Pak politicians whereby they convert too but give the occasional bleat to keep the followers happy as Musharraf does! ;)

Platinum,

Musharraf is not shrewd. He is plumb cunning. As cunning as a wily fox! :eek: :tongue: :biggrin:

But be wary of the Americans. They act dumb but they are the smartest!

They may have you by the goolies (British Army word) soon!