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    Army on Exercise in Lower Central North Island
    Monday, 7 November 2005, 3:51 pm
    Press Release: New Zealand Defence Force
    New Zealand Defence Force
    Te Ope Kaatua O Aotearoa

    Media Release
    7 November 2005


    ARMY ON EXERCISE IN LOWER CENTRAL NORTH ISLAND

    The largest New Zealand Army exercise to be held for some years begins later this week. Exercise Silver Warrior will see 800 personnel and over 250 military vehicles taking part in a number of different training situations across the lower central North Island.

    The Taranaki, Wanganui and Manawatu regions will see the best the New Zealand Army has to offer, including 51 NZLAVs, the new Pinzgauer Light Operational Vehicle and elements from all areas of the Army. The exercise will run for two weeks.

    Exercise Silver Warrior is designed to confirm that the Linton based 1st Battalion, designated as the New Zealand Army’s motorised battalion, has reached its directed level of capability (DLOC) milestone, an output required by the government. DLOC is the level of capability that the New Zealand Defence Force is funded to maintain in order to provide the government with options for the commitment of military forces.

    1st Battalion have been training in section, platoon and company sized groups since 2004 when the NZLAVs were introduced into service. Exercise Silver Warrior will be the first time the Battalion has operated as a collective whole.

    Major General Jerry Mateparae, Chief of Army, is in no doubt that the motorised battalion will achieve the milestone. “Exercise Silver Warrior will confirm to New Zealand that their Army has met the target to have a motorised battalion group ready to respond to the government’s requirements by the end of 2005.

    The Battalion has been focused on training and developing the tactics, techniques and procedures for operating as a motorised battalion since 2004. Exercise Silver Warrior is designed to be challenging and test the battalion group in a number of different scenarios.

    Exercise Silver Warrior could be seen as a trial game before the selection of the test team. In today’s complex threat environment, that test could be providing assistance with delivering humanitarian aid, undertaking peace keeping or peace enforcement activity, or conducting combat operations. Our job is to be prepared to not only successfully undertake all these responsibilities, but to be able to react to them simultaneously”.


    Members of the public living or travelling in the lower North Island can expect to see large numbers of Army personnel and military vehicles throughout the Taranaki, Wanganui and Manawatu regions. The exercise has been planned in conjunction with local authorities and will be well controlled. Members of the public should expect little disruption during the two week period the exercise runs.

    ENDS

  • #2
    Exercise Silver Warrior will confirm to New Zealand that their Army has met the target to have a motorised battalion group ready to respond to the government’s requirements by the end of 2005.
    Kinda ambitious to go through all this trouble for a force that can only stay in theatre six months and then takes a year to get ready for another one.

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    • #3
      Considering they're about 2000 below strength I'm surprised they had enough drivers.
      In the realm of spirit, seek clarity; in the material world, seek utility.

      Leibniz

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      • #4
        Originally posted by parihaka
        Considering they're about 2000 below strength I'm surprised they had enough drivers.
        Heh, that was an easy problem to solve. 2/1 RNZIR effectivly lost a company to make up the numbers.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Officer of Engineers
          Kinda ambitious to go through all this trouble for a force that can only stay in theatre six months and then takes a year to get ready for another one.
          Thats not a problem; All one needs to do is scavange the entire army for people and if that fails, shift the goal posts of reality to make things look favourable.

          EDIT* Besides, 2/1 RNZIR is supposed to be the replacement battalion. It might work out if the recruitment/retention issue can be sorted.
          Last edited by Stuart Mackey; 20 Nov 05,, 05:36.

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          • #6
            You need at least another bn to have any sustainment.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Stuart Mackey
              Thats not a problem; All one needs to do is scavange the entire army for people and if that fails, shift the goal posts of reality to make things look favourable.

              EDIT* Besides, 2/1 RNZIR is supposed to be the replacement battalion. It might work out if the recruitment/retention issue can be sorted.
              So are you at Burnham?
              In the realm of spirit, seek clarity; in the material world, seek utility.

              Leibniz

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Officer of Engineers
                You need at least another bn to have any sustainment.
                They're kitted out for 2.5 but recruitment is the problem. Unemployment is currently running at 3.5% and lets face it, those guys aren't ever going to be employed. In reality we're actually bringing people into the country to fill the work available, so Army recruitment, even with the new wages, is kinda at the bottom of the heap.
                In the realm of spirit, seek clarity; in the material world, seek utility.

                Leibniz

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Officer of Engineers
                  You need at least another bn to have any sustainment.
                  NZ has two regular battalions in RNZIR. There are six territorial 'regiments' that are at various levels of personall strength; These are not deployable and exist as a form of reserve and top up for the regulars.
                  We can sustain battalions overseas for a good period {As we did in Timor} but not in any real shape for real warfare.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by parihaka
                    So are you at Burnham?
                    No. Im not in the armed forces, if thats what you mean, but the info is in the report into the LAV3 purchace found on the website of the Office of the Auditor General.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by parihaka
                      They're kitted out for 2.5 but recruitment is the problem. Unemployment is currently running at 3.5% and lets face it, those guys aren't ever going to be employed. In reality we're actually bringing people into the country to fill the work available, so Army recruitment, even with the new wages, is kinda at the bottom of the heap.
                      More to the point, I have heard from a good number of service age teens and above that the armed forces, and army in particular, are seen as a choice for those who are terminally stupid, ie: 'un cool' or have no other option.
                      So I think that there is a perception issue here, as well as the simple fact that most probably dont want that kind of lifestyle if they can have a easier life that pays a bit better. I dont think its a new story somehow.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Stuart Mackey
                        We can sustain battalions overseas for a good period {As we did in Timor} but not in any real shape for real warfare.
                        Is there any other kind?

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                        • #13
                          Is there any other kind?
                          Yes, the Hollywood kind, the UN kind (I did not believe you about the UN ROE's, until I asked a PA officer, apparentlu our army does not follow them strictly after Somalia).
                          "Any relations in a social order will endure if there is infused into them some of that spirit of human sympathy, which qualifies life for immortality." ~ George William Russell

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by sparten
                            apparentlu our army does not follow them strictly after Somalia
                            Most good armies don't.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Officer of Engineers
                              Most good armies don't.
                              Question sir, who dreamt them up? I as a civilian can see they are downright inane and stupid. Apparently the PA stance is that all fire directed at personnel is hostile fire and thus worthy of retaliation, and that a soldier must be ready at all times, not that "no bullet in chamber" business.
                              "Any relations in a social order will endure if there is infused into them some of that spirit of human sympathy, which qualifies life for immortality." ~ George William Russell

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