I have been patiently watching this Pakistani individual claiming to be 'Aryan' and claiming Pakistanis are more 'ARYAN' than Indians.
The claims made by him remind me of Kindergarten, but nevertheless they are getting to me and its time I set the record straight on all this Aryan business.
I am going to write in POINT form, so if mr pseudoaryan wants to say something he can adress them logically.
1. The whole ARYAN concept, was a product of European nationalism, and was popularized by Max Mueller, a Missionary after he did a 'translation' of the Vedas.
He later made a statement in which he said the word Aryan is not a racial term. In Sanskrit Arya means - noble.. of high morals, gentleman. The whole Aryan controversy started after a European with little understanding of the 'complex' nature of the sanskrit language, and the metaphoric allusions of Indian mythology and religocity --- translated the vedas.. and from then on the fantasy of the 'Aryan' Knights - the warlike hordes that destroyed the Indus valley and went on a rampage across asia was created.
2. The Source of the word Aryan - is from the Vedas. The Vedas use the word Aryan to describe someone who is noble - they also use to describe VEDIC CIVILIZATION as Arya. In the Ramayan Epic - Lord Ram has been called an Arya - Hence my name Aryaramnaes(Hellenized). A more general usage of the word Arya is someone .. or people who follow the Vedic way of life - with rituals and all and abide by them strictly. The Northern part of India... the area along the Saraswati river and the Sindhu(Indus) river has always been known as Aryavarta - It also extended into Afghanistan and parts of Central Asia where Aryavarta included several Kingdoms - Bharatvarsh(Northern india), Gandhara(Afg), Kamboj(Central Asia) -- all of these kingdoms were Vedic, sanskrit speaking and could be called Aryan by virtue of their strict adherance to the Vedic Religion.
3. The Indus valley civilization is a misnomer. The real term to describe the civilization is Saraswati-Sindhu civilization. Indus valley was coined prematurely by the British archaelogist who discovered the first few major settlements on the banks of the river Indus. Later archaelogy has revealed the MAJOR cities of the civilzation lie on the now dry Saraswati river which has been mentioned again and again as a holy river in the Vedas- esp the Rig Veda which is the oldest. The latest discovery being the City of DWARKA(Carbon Dated -7500 BC) - which also legitimizes the Mahabharat. Vedic Symbols have been found allover cities in the Saraswari-Sindhu Civilization.
4. The whole Aryan Invasion Theory has been completely discredited and I welcome anyone who wants to challenge it. The British never took the time to seriously look into Indian History or give credit to Indians for anything 'intellectual'
When they came across the Indusvalley they were stupified --- on top of that the vedas were so profound and written with such depth that they could not attribute both these things to the Indians. So they brought they're christian 'scholars' to do translations -- and they invented the Aryan Invasion Theory -- Its like having Hindu Scholars examine the Bible and then claim that the Bible was actually the work of Hindu Priests.
I am an Aryan, by virtue of being a Vedic(Hindu) Sanskritic(Hindi) speaking Individual -- continuing thousands of years old traditions till today-- repeating the same mantras that were uttered 10000 years ago.
Pakistanis are NOT Aryan - they are Islamic - and have desisted from adhering to any Vedic rituals -- so by no means can they claim themselves to be Aryan. Pakistanis are a mix of Iranians, Mongols, Turks etc.. and have lost that link to Vedic India thousands of years ago.
Oh and please dont claim the Iranians have anything to do with Aryans.The Iranians and Indians used to be Vedic, untill a serious philosiphical and political dispute.. and the Iranians adopted the mirror image of vedic religion. Their Demon was Indra (Vedic God).. Their God was Ahura Mazda(Vedic Asura Demon).. and their Devas were the bad guys, and for the Vedic people Devas were the good guys....They completely became a Heretic rogue faction of Vedic society and lost the 'Aryan' culture.
I guess that is enough for now, I could go into much more detail, and I am sure people have questions.. so Mr Pakistani Turko-Mongloid-Indian dont claim to be Aryan just because its 'cool'
The claims made by him remind me of Kindergarten, but nevertheless they are getting to me and its time I set the record straight on all this Aryan business.
I am going to write in POINT form, so if mr pseudoaryan wants to say something he can adress them logically.
1. The whole ARYAN concept, was a product of European nationalism, and was popularized by Max Mueller, a Missionary after he did a 'translation' of the Vedas.
He later made a statement in which he said the word Aryan is not a racial term. In Sanskrit Arya means - noble.. of high morals, gentleman. The whole Aryan controversy started after a European with little understanding of the 'complex' nature of the sanskrit language, and the metaphoric allusions of Indian mythology and religocity --- translated the vedas.. and from then on the fantasy of the 'Aryan' Knights - the warlike hordes that destroyed the Indus valley and went on a rampage across asia was created.
2. The Source of the word Aryan - is from the Vedas. The Vedas use the word Aryan to describe someone who is noble - they also use to describe VEDIC CIVILIZATION as Arya. In the Ramayan Epic - Lord Ram has been called an Arya - Hence my name Aryaramnaes(Hellenized). A more general usage of the word Arya is someone .. or people who follow the Vedic way of life - with rituals and all and abide by them strictly. The Northern part of India... the area along the Saraswati river and the Sindhu(Indus) river has always been known as Aryavarta - It also extended into Afghanistan and parts of Central Asia where Aryavarta included several Kingdoms - Bharatvarsh(Northern india), Gandhara(Afg), Kamboj(Central Asia) -- all of these kingdoms were Vedic, sanskrit speaking and could be called Aryan by virtue of their strict adherance to the Vedic Religion.
3. The Indus valley civilization is a misnomer. The real term to describe the civilization is Saraswati-Sindhu civilization. Indus valley was coined prematurely by the British archaelogist who discovered the first few major settlements on the banks of the river Indus. Later archaelogy has revealed the MAJOR cities of the civilzation lie on the now dry Saraswati river which has been mentioned again and again as a holy river in the Vedas- esp the Rig Veda which is the oldest. The latest discovery being the City of DWARKA(Carbon Dated -7500 BC) - which also legitimizes the Mahabharat. Vedic Symbols have been found allover cities in the Saraswari-Sindhu Civilization.
4. The whole Aryan Invasion Theory has been completely discredited and I welcome anyone who wants to challenge it. The British never took the time to seriously look into Indian History or give credit to Indians for anything 'intellectual'
When they came across the Indusvalley they were stupified --- on top of that the vedas were so profound and written with such depth that they could not attribute both these things to the Indians. So they brought they're christian 'scholars' to do translations -- and they invented the Aryan Invasion Theory -- Its like having Hindu Scholars examine the Bible and then claim that the Bible was actually the work of Hindu Priests.
I am an Aryan, by virtue of being a Vedic(Hindu) Sanskritic(Hindi) speaking Individual -- continuing thousands of years old traditions till today-- repeating the same mantras that were uttered 10000 years ago.
Pakistanis are NOT Aryan - they are Islamic - and have desisted from adhering to any Vedic rituals -- so by no means can they claim themselves to be Aryan. Pakistanis are a mix of Iranians, Mongols, Turks etc.. and have lost that link to Vedic India thousands of years ago.
Oh and please dont claim the Iranians have anything to do with Aryans.The Iranians and Indians used to be Vedic, untill a serious philosiphical and political dispute.. and the Iranians adopted the mirror image of vedic religion. Their Demon was Indra (Vedic God).. Their God was Ahura Mazda(Vedic Asura Demon).. and their Devas were the bad guys, and for the Vedic people Devas were the good guys....They completely became a Heretic rogue faction of Vedic society and lost the 'Aryan' culture.
I guess that is enough for now, I could go into much more detail, and I am sure people have questions.. so Mr Pakistani Turko-Mongloid-Indian dont claim to be Aryan just because its 'cool'
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