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    WASHINGTON (Army News Service) -- The technology behind space ship lasers and force fields is a lot closer to reality than many think.

    Although those lasers and force fields won't be fielded for a few more years, Gus Khalil, an engineer at the Army's Tank and Automotive Command in Dearborn, Mich., said the Army has identified what they want for the Army's Future Combat System.

    "There's a lot more demands for the FCS vehicle than there are for the legacy force today," he said. "Anything we do today that gives the soldiers less capability than he has is unacceptable."

    That technology is being developed for the Army's Future Combat System, the family of 16 manned, unmanned, ground and aerial vehicles the Army wants fielded by 2010.

    The manned ground vehicles have to weigh less than 20 tones. They also have to be as fast, as mobile and as lethal as an M-1A2 Abrams and M2 Bradley fighting vehicle.

    Doing all that will be like making a Toyota truck as durable as an 18-wheel semi-truck, one TARDECE engineer quipped at a recent FCS conference in Dearborn, Mich.

    But it is doable Khalil said. To demonstrate that, Khalil had a mock-up of the laser gun system at the Association of the U.S. Army annual meeting in Washington, D.C., Oct. 6-8.

    The gun program falls under the Combat Hybrid Power System. Initiated by DARPA six years ago and handed over to TARDEC two years ago, the program is developing the FCS' "pulsed power" weapons.

    Since the system is just being developed, the weapons could be Electro-thermal Chemical guns or even a laser gun capable of firing artillery rounds or destroying tanks, he said.

    The mock up showed how TARDEC wants the system to work. On one end was a pack of three lithium-ion battery modules. When it was "fired" it went through a converter that increased the charge from 100 volts to 1,000 volts.

    From there it goes to the pulse-forming network, a nest of capacitors and inductors, where the now 1,000 volts will be turned into a "pulse discharge" that will last less than one-millionth of a second, he said.

    From there the pulse of electricity goes through an out-put switch that will fire the pulse to its intended target, Khalil said.

    The pulse was demonstrated through a bank of four strobe lights. If someone wasn't careful the lights could burn holes in their retinas, he said.

    Khalil said tests have shown that 600-volts to 10,000-volts weapons are possible. And that's what they're forecasting to be in the FCS, Khalil said.

    The modules' life span depends on how they're used, he said. If they're used just for mobility they can potentially last years, about 15, he said. If they use chemical or laser guns, they won't last long, he said.

    "I don't know the exact number because we have not done that yet," Khalil said of how many times the batteries will fire the weapons.

    He wants the batteries to last 50 rounds or "firings" but the modules will last only 20 rounds right now, he said.

    The FCS is projected to have anywhere from 20-50 of those battery modules and since battery technology is getting smaller, that requirement will be met, Khalil said.

    The pulse gun will also have the ability to fire something like today's sabot anti-tank round. But the FCS pulse weapon will give it more penetration capability than it already has, Khalil said.

    To the soldier on the battlefield, it will look similar to a sabot round -- a flash of light -- and the result might be the same -- a destroyed tank or armored vehicle, he said.

    But Khalil's team isn't stopping there. His team is also developing electro-magnetic armor capable of stopping not only other pulsed weapons but conventional weapons.

    The electro-magnetic armor will also be run from the same power source that will power the weapons system and the engine.

    If the power system that powers the pulse gun that Khalil is designing fires in milli-seconds, that same source will power the electric armor in micro-seconds, he said. In other words, it's much faster and uses a lot more juice, he explained.

    The biggest challenge for his team is to run the gun and armor off the same batteries that will run the engine, Khalil said.

  • #2
    "The manned ground vehicles have to weigh less than 20 tones. They also have to be as fast, as mobile and as lethal as an M-1A2 Abrams and M2 Bradley fighting vehicle. "

    Note he does not say as survivable.

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    • #3
      lol, yah of course.

      If the weapon works as they say you could engage targets a lot farther then with APFSDS rounds. So on a flat perfect desert terrain with an incompatent enemy it will work fine:w00t

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      • #4
        Great- what about MOUT and close terrain?

        I wouldn't be a tanker if i got double the pay for it.

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        • #5
          You would have IAAP(The think like the Russian ARENA system) and Electromagnetic Armour to protect you against RPG type weapons.

          If it works your virtually invonruble if it doesn't you die:D

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          • #6
            "You would have IAAP(The think like the Russian ARENA system) and Electromagnetic Armour to protect you against RPG type weapons."

            You think those gizmos will work against AT mines? ;)

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            • #7
              You can always have a transporter ready to zap it to the other side of the world:angel

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              • #8
                LOL, now that's what i call rapid deployment. ;)

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                • #9
                  They actually made an atom go instantainiusly to another point. They had to atoms, one was a milimeter away from the other. Then they caused it go right to the other one instantaniously. This means they are conected outside of normaly space/time.

                  Pretty weird aye?

                  :D

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                  • #10
                    Man, can you imagine if transporter technology was a reality?
                    Think of the revolution in military logistics planning.
                    “He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”

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                    • #11
                      You could transport 20 divisions and all their supplys in a matter of days. You could transport bombs to appear right on top of targets, lol.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Praxus
                        They actually made an atom go instantainiusly to another point. They had to atoms, one was a milimeter away from the other. Then they caused it go right to the other one instantaniously. This means they are conected outside of normaly space/time.

                        Pretty weird aye?

                        :D
                        They transported a light beam not to long ago also, about 6 inches.
                        Your look more lost than a bastard child on fathers day.

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                        • #13
                          I think it was a light photon actually, but it was enough to validate the concept of transporter technology.

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                          • #14
                            Hmmm.... The artical I read said beam.... but then I've seen reporters confuse a C-130 and a C-5 so I don't put anything past them.
                            Your look more lost than a bastard child on fathers day.

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                            • #15
                              Isn't light made of "ether" which has properties of matter and energy and photons sorta ride on this ether. I'm not sure, I'm not a astrophysicist.

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