Do we still use rifle grenades? I've never seen one even in a photo. How do the work?
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Originally posted by giggs88I think the Marine Corps still uses some left over from the Vietnam era. Saw it on Mail Call (history channel). I don't think there is widespread use of it in our military."So little pains do the vulgar take in the investigation of truth, accepting readily the first story that comes to hand." Thucydides 1.20.3
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In US forces and Russian Military there gone, replaced with under-barrel units but the french, the Belgians and the german (in limited numbers) still have them though they are loosing favor.
how does it work? basically you take your standard issue rifle, load a special blank cartridge in it. close the rifles gas system take your grenade, Prime her, attach it to a special cup and put that on your rifle. point to enemy and fire. The gas pressure from the blank propels the grenade. *** DO NOT TRY AT HOME!!!*** kinda like putting a cherry bomb in a trash can and dropping the lid on it ( be sure to run like hell and have a good sized fuse ) Presto flying Saucer!!
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I would hope the spoon is still on. The grenade is fitted into the carrier cup; the assembly is then put onto the grenade spigot attached to the rifle. The gas cut-off was flipped, a grenade blank (not the same as a regular blank) was loaded, the pin pulled and ready to launch. The spoon wouldn’t be released until after launching.
Modern rifle grenades have a bullet trap in the base and use a standard ball round to launch.AK-Dave
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Originally posted by giggs88I think the Marine Corps still uses some left over from the Vietnam era. Saw it on Mail Call (history channel). I don't think there is widespread use of it in our military.
No, You saw a piece about them pulling old M-79s out of storage and issuing them to EOD and Combat Eng (?)
USMC doesn't use rifle grenades. And hasn't since Korean war
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I don't know about using them in combat, but they trained marines to use them well into the 60's at least. I have dad's 1967 edition Guidebook for Marines and it covers them in detail. (also the M16, M14, M1, flamethrower, 3.5 bazooka...) I guess with the budget the marines got, they kept everything, just in case.Rule 303
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Originally posted by sniperdude411Why do we need rifle grenades when we have extremely effective anti-material rifles?
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First: I never said Shrapnel I said an explosive round although there are also other rounds they drop on the enemy. The Grenade launcher is a miniature mortar, It supplies Very close range indirect fire. Although in resent years some newer rounds have enabled Direct fire.
Second: Yes they have those rounds. but they have yet to make a Smoke round, a gas Round, a non-lethal baton round. Anti material Rifles are only built to fire a high velocity bullet where a Rifle grenade or Grenade launcher is for low velocity . Different Roles
third: Right on less accurate, Also if the enemy pops up well the soldier is trying to fire a rifle grenade. He could find himself in trouble having to either fire the grenade in a hurry or trying to change his weapon back . However on the second part it's a give an take.
Take: A the Grenade launcher adds bulk and weight to a soldiers rifle. adding at least 3 pounds unloaded with out specialized sights
Give yet he can carry more grenade rounds because the Grenade rounds are lighter and smaller,
Take but this also means they lack the Power of the Rifle grenade.
Give But a Grenade launcher has it's own barrel and trigger allowing a soldier reading to fire a chance to defend themselves with there rifle if an enemy pops up.Last edited by Terran empire; 22 Aug 05,, 02:07.
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Originally posted by Gun GrapeNo, You saw a piece about them pulling old M-79s out of storage and issuing them to EOD and Combat Eng (?)
USMC doesn't use rifle grenades. And hasn't since Korean war
I know the Marines Combat Engs are using the old M-79s in Iraq, cause my bro the Marine Combat Eng just got back and was telling me about them.
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