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latinoppimp
22 Jul 05,, 17:37
russian black jack vs us b-52

Wich one of these bombers is superior?

HistoricalDavid
22 Jul 05,, 19:33
russian black jack vs us b-52

Wich one of these bombers is superior?

The B52, because its far better maintenance outcompetes virtually every other factor.

A better comparison, however, would be the Tu-95 vs the B-52, and the Rockwell B-1B Lancer vs the Tupolev Tu-160 Blackjack.

Unipidity
22 Jul 05,, 22:48
Blackjack is a lot faster at altitude isnt it? Bigger.

Bill
22 Jul 05,, 23:27
“The first few times I experienced a B-52 attack it seemed, as I strained to press myself into the bunker floor, that I had been caught in the Apocalypse. The terror was complete. One lost control of bodily functions as the mind screamed incomprehensible orders to get out.”
~Former Viet Cong Guerilla, Truong Nhu Tang

That about says it all.

leib10
22 Jul 05,, 23:49
The two are not really comparable as they were both designed for different missions.

hello
23 Jul 05,, 14:41
B2 Spirit.

Bluesman
23 Jul 05,, 15:48
Heard a great old saying years ago:
"Fighter pilots make movies. Bomber pilots make history." :cool:

leib10
23 Jul 05,, 15:56
Heh. That's true to a certain degree. But what about fighter pilots like Erich Hartmann or Chuck Yeager?

longcat
12 Aug 05,, 01:45
I think the b 52 is better than blackjack

avon1944
16 Aug 05,, 03:20
> HistoricalDavid
> A better comparison, however, would be the Tu-95 vs the B-52
One thing that has always cause me to respect Soviet engineers is the Tu-95. Originally the B-52 was to have four turbo props, counter-rotating and, slightly swepted wings!! Boeing was in danger of defaulting on the contract when GE developed jet engines powerful enough for the B-52 to be used. The Tu-160 can also carry a heavier weaons load in its bomb bay. Now, the total weight carried is slightly in favor of the B-52 with the many iron bomb racks on the wings.
Discovery Wings did a program "Great Planes -The B-52." The designers talked about how close they came to defaulting on the contract. They approached the USAF about changing the design from turbo-props to turbo-jets, even though the B-47 was already operational with turbo-jet engines.
The Tupolev designers were able to solve the excessive vibration problems and created an enduring aircraft. The fast pace at which aircraft were being developed, the B-52 was planned to operational for only ten years before being replaced by a new bomber. That replacement bomber is still on its way fifty years later.

> the Rockwell B-1B Lancer vs the Tupolev Tu-160 Blackjack
The Tu-160 was the disaster in the bomber world the same way Su-27 (T-10) was with fighter programs!! Twenty years from initial development to operational status.
The Blackjack is about twenty percent larger than the B-1B but its performance is very similar to the B-1A!


> leibstandarte10
> The two are not really comparable as they were both designed for different missions
Similar missions different eras. They were both designed to be high altitude penetrating bombers.


> SnakePlisken
> I think the b 52 is better than blackjack
That is like saying the F-8 Crusader is a better plane than the MiG.-29, no way! (Same age difference) As a penetrating bomber, survivability in a B-52 does not have a high percentage against a modern IADS. The cruise missile has greatly extended the life span of the B-52.
The Tu-160 is still the number one threat of the SNA to surface warships. Now that the Tomcat has retired, as a cruise missile carrier/bomber there is little threat. Survivability should be very high.

Adrian