Most discipline & well train army in history..

[molf48]

I believe that the Greek army of 300 Spartans of King Leonidas was the most most discipline & well train army in history.. They face millions of well trains Persians in Thermopiles, and when you have at least 1:10000 men analogy you must have a lot of bulls to stand and fight! They stop the invation temporary and actually maybe never lost that fight if a traitor not exist! At the and they lost but the kill an extremly number of persian army.. What about you?

[sparten]

They did not face millions of persians. The Greek accounts of numbers in many cases exceeded the population of the persian empire. Now coming to the question, well there are many contenders, Alexanders army, Napoleons at AUstralitz, the AFrika corps, Army Group Center, Zhukovs Siberian Army.


Perhaps, the Colonel can help, his knowledge and hence opinions are far superior than mine.

[Officer of Engineers]

No real objective way to measure all of this. Different eras, different requirements, different thinking. Somethings we do today (such as enforced rest) would be considered at least unmanly in the past. Somethings armies did in the past is outright stupid today (stopping the battle when it gets dark).

Also, good armies do not necessarily mean good soldiers. The phalanx is actually a force multiplier using less trained soldiers. You have to stay in formation, alot easier to do than trying to outfight the other guy. The Roman legionnairs are actually better trained and better disciplined than Leonidas's knights.

As far as soldiering goes, today's American soldiers are the best trained and best discipline in all of history and that's because we're demanding more from them than any other time in history. Then again, we're not expected to do 10 hours of HTH.

[Lord General]

It had to be one of England's armies... I'm talking about before the 1800's... They have defeated everyone.

[Amled]

It had to be one of England's armies... I'm talking about before the 1800's... They have defeated everyone.

Lord Cornwallis would disagree with you! :)

[Praxus]

They did not face millions of persians. The Greek accounts of numbers in many cases exceeded the population of the persian empire.

Whose history does that? It certainly wasn't Herodotus, he put his numbers at around 2.7 million (which included the land forces and the naval fleet which engaged the greek fleet at Salamis) which is nowhere near the entire population of the Persian Empire.

Not only are you incapable of spelling "spartan" correctly, you know little to nothing of history.

It had to be one of England's armies... I'm talking about before the 1800's... They have defeated everyone.

Ever hear of Yorktown (1781)? Perhaps New Orleans (1814)? Saratoga (1777)?

[Ambiorix]

Tough question...

I'd vote for the Spartan too, as said earlier, since their entire society was rigged on warfare. They must have been quite impressive too, 'cuz we still use the word 'spartan' today. :)

[Asim Aquil]

Lord Cornwallis would disagree with you! :)

The dude, who got beaten by the "Sons of scotland"?

"I am William Wallace..." Love that speech.

[Amled]

The dude, who got beaten by the "Sons of scotland"?

Not quite Asim, he's the dude who got his butt handed to him by General Washington and the French fleet at Yorktown. Thereby causing the British to lose the American War of Independence.

P.S. I too like Wallace, but I like Bruce even more. He won, Wallace lost!

[sparten]

Whose history does that? It certainly wasn't Herodotus, he put his numbers at around 2.7 million (which included the land forces and the naval fleet which engaged the greek fleet at Salamis) which is nowhere near the entire population of the Persian Empire.

Not only are you incapable of spelling "spartan" correctly, you know little to nothing of history.



Ever hear of Yorktown (1781)? Perhaps New Orleans (1814)? Saratoga (1777)?

remembering from memory,the population of the persian empire was a pproximatly 3 million. no way they faced the number descibed. high hundreds of thousands yes, millions no.

best army, wellingtons 'Scum of the Earth'.
Arabs at Yarmuck,
Alexanders forces
Grants Army at Vicksburg
Tamerlane hordes
Marshal Zhukovs Siberian Divisions
Pattons Third Rmy.


All would cause serious heartburn to any forces.

[Lord General]

When the mighty British stepped on the battle field, their mere rivals ran for their lives. The brave ones that stood up to the Mighty British, died mercifully.

[sparten]

When the mighty British stepped on the battle field, their mere rivals ran for their lives. The brave ones that stood up to the Mighty British, died mercifully.

The Afghans disagree with you. Remeber that doctor !

Seriously, you can loes a lot betting against the British Army.

[Bill]

"When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains,
And the women come out to cut up what remains,
Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
An' go to your Gawd like a soldier."
~Rudyard Kipling

Seems to me we yanks did a good job of kicking the snot out of your invincible British Army. Not bad for a rabble, eh?

[lemontree]

When the mighty British stepped on the battle field, their mere rivals ran for their lives. The brave ones that stood up to the Mighty British, died mercifully.

Check the Anglo-Sikh wars, they tell a different story.

[Amled]

When the mighty British stepped on the battle field, their mere rivals ran for their lives. The brave ones that stood up to the Mighty British, died mercifully.

Let's not forget Isandhlwana, where Zulus armed only with assergis who made sure that it was the Mighty British that died mercifully!