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JAD_333
09 Feb 14,, 21:15
I'm speechless. Just when you think California can't top all its zany referendums, along comes this. Maybe it's a way to raise the political awareness of Californians, who seem to like keeping California on the cutting edge of regulation, but don't like to pay for it. If all the people with money got their own state, who'll pay for California's excesses? And, anyway, do we really want 10 more senators in Congress?



What Happens To California If Silicon
Valley Became A State, In 7 Charts | TechCrunch (http://techcrunch.com/2014/02/05/what-happens-to-california-if-silicon-valley-became-a-state-in-7-graphs/?source=gravity)

What Happens To California If Silicon Valley Became A State, In 7 Charts


At least one wealthy tech investor wants to encourage California’s latent separatist tendencies and slice California into six different states, including one State of Silicon Valley. Per California law, no matter unlikely or odd a proposed ballot proposition is the Secretary of State and the Legislative Analysts Office release a report to voters on a bill’s potential economic impacts [PDF]. Usually, ballot proposition analysis is pretty dry, but making Silicon Valley it’s own state? This was one was a lot more interesting.

Here’s what California thinks could happen if voters approve Tim Draper’s proposition to split California into six states.

http://tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/map.png?w=782&h=640

What California Would Like And The New Populations

Silicon Valley, comprised of San Jose, San Francisco and its cousin to the East, Oakland, would consist of approximately 6,000,000 citizens. “West California,” whose capital will be Los Angeles, would be the biggest state, with 11,000,000 residents.

http://tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/population.png?w=960&h=422

The slicing and dicing would be directed by 12 commissioners, two from each state. Congress would have to approve it by 2019. If Congress’s current productivity is any indicator, we would need to get them the paperwork next week and then threaten to shut down California every month for the next 5 years to get any forward momentum.

population (see article for graph)

Most Of The Rich People Would Move

Silicon Valley would become the richest state in all the Union, with a 63,288 average yearly income which would be enough to make a down payment on an apartment.

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California would lose 28% of its income tax base ($14.5 billion) but the Valley would be a pretty nice place to live.

income (see article for graoh)

The Rest Of The State Would Need More School Funding

Silicon Valley requires almost half the state-aid per pupil as Central California ($3,031 vs. $5,321), partly because of high property taxes. The other states would either need to raise revenue, or enact a Hunger-games style competition to select which students received lunch.

edu-funding (see article for graph)

Doctor! We Need A Lot Of Doctors!

The middle of the state has sufficient medical or law schools, which means they would need to be imported to train more residents. Silicon Valley also comprises about half the State’s share of Medi-Cal recipients. The federal government would need to allocate more resources to the needy residents. Alternatively, Silicon Valley could teach the poor residents to code, so that they can pay their super-sized medical bills.

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Silicon Valley Would Need Water, Or Be Sponsored By Dasani

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California has a torrid love-affair with water; frequent droughts and a complicated management system have always tentatively balanced each region’s needs. Silicon Valley may have money and talent, but it imports ~60% of its water needs. So, Silicon Valley could trade a few doctors and teachers for running water. Or, as most tech companies do, just snag a corporate sponsor.

The Road Ahead

There are also a few loose ends. Each state would need a new capital, pay a transition team, and figure out where to put prisoners. I presume Governor Larry Page would get to live out his life-long fantasy of a Burning Man-type experimental zone, and turn Oakland into a drug-induced rave for Googlers to run all sorts of experiments on. I’d live there if he also offered Google’s salad bar to the residents.

Doktor
09 Feb 14,, 22:18
How real is this?

I have found CNN article from December 2013 and a website for support of the initiative. However, nothing more in depth then the TechCrunch's article.

bonehead
09 Feb 14,, 23:24
Wow. I don't understand how you can be speechless. Oh…. You live in the other side of the country and don't have California lunacy thrust upon you every day. Sure there would be a few more seats at the table but liberal democrats would have just lost a huge power base and electoral college block. Those are win-wins in my book. One would thing that California would be working on more pressing needs..like securing more water, but that is not how California rolls.

As usual thy screwed the poach drawing the new lines. South and much of west California have already been all but ceded to Mexico. Before you try to argue go down there first hand and you will see what I mean. The state of Jefferson has been in the works for quite some time. It was originally supposed to be Northern California and part of southern Oregon. The attack on Pearl harbor sunk that idea. The Sierras are a natural and cultural boundary but as usual common sense is nothing that Californians follow. Anything East of the Sierras should be incorporated into Nevada or at least be called West Nevada as those that live there are far more culturally tied to Nevada than California. We also know that "silicon valley" is not going to survive as a name so that is a non starter from the get go.

gunnut
12 Feb 14,, 02:04
Where do I sign up?

Dreadnought
12 Feb 14,, 03:13
Yep, and here they are.......

1) Weird state of Cali.
2) Earthquake state of Cali.
3) Pelosi and friends Cali.
4) Gay Cali.
5) Pot smoker Cali.
and last but not least....6) Illegal immigrant Cali.

:biggrin::rolleyes:

bonehead
12 Feb 14,, 03:41
Yep, and here they are.......

1) Weird state of Cali.
2) Earthquake state of Cali.
3) Pelosi and friends Cali.
4) Gay Cali.
5) Pot smoker Cali.
and last but not least....6) Illegal immigrant Cali.

:biggrin::rolleyes:

"illegal immigrant SANCTUARY Cali"

gunnut
12 Feb 14,, 04:54
Yep, and here they are.......

1) Weird state of Cali.
2) Earthquake state of Cali.
3) Pelosi and friends Cali.
4) Gay Cali.
5) Pot smoker Cali.
and last but not least....6) Illegal immigrant Cali.

:biggrin::rolleyes:

You just came up with 6 names for the same thing: City by the Gay. :tongue:

JAD_333
12 Feb 14,, 04:59
Wow. I don't understand how you can be speechless. Oh…. You live in the other side of the country and don't have California lunacy thrust upon you every day.

Maybe you're right. Out east, we kind of accept that each state has diversity. But having lived for a couple of years in what they're proposing to make West California I know anything is possible in California politics. We have our own irrational struggle along those lines with the DC statehood movement, which if ever ratified, would create a 64 square mile state with two senators and 2 representatives. It would make the current smallest state, Rhode Island with 1046 sq.miles seem gigantic by comparison, although it would have more people than Wyoming. But back to California, the democrats in the Senate probably would vote down an amendment to split it into 2 simply because of the political ramifications. Now if we could get 75 Republicans elected to the Senate, it might pass, but that's not likely to happen.