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cyppok
29 Dec 13,, 04:20
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Banned in 160 Nations, Legal in U.S. Meat Supply

Meat—and beef in particular—is a mainstay of the traditional American dinner. Unfortunately, the vast majority of it is filled with harmful additives of one form or another, and is raised in such a way that it contributes to the degeneration of health…


Ractopamine is a beta agonist drug that increases protein synthesis, thereby making the animal more muscular. This reduces the fat content of the meat and increases the profit per animal. The drug, which is also used in asthma medication, was initially recruited for use in livestock when researchers discovered that it made mice more muscular.


Beta-agonist drugs, as a class, have been used in US cattle production since 2003. The drug is administered in the days leading up to slaughter, and as much as 20 percent of it can remain in the meat you buy.

This is disconcerting when you consider that the drug label warns: “Not for use in humans,” and “individuals with cardiovascular disease should exercise special caution to avoid exposure.”

While other drugs require a clearance period of around two weeks to help ensure the compounds are flushed from the meat prior to slaughter (and therefore reduce residues leftover for human consumption), there is no clearance period for ractopamine.


In an effort to get this dangerous additive out of American meat products, the Center for Food Safety (CFS) and Animal Legal Defense Fund (ALDF) recently sued the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for withholding records pertaining to ractopamine’s safety.


Why is Ractopamine Banned in 160 Countries?

Ractopamine is banned from food production in at least 160 countries around the world, including countries across Europe, Russia, mainland China and Republic of China (Taiwan), due to its suspected health effects. Since 1998, more than 1,700 people have reportedly been “poisoned” from eating pigs fed the drug. If imported meat is found to contain traces of the drug, it is turned away, while fines and imprisonment result for its use in banned countries.



In February of this year, Russia issued a ban on US meat imports,3 warning it would remain in place until the US agrees to certify that the meat is ractopamine-free. As reported by Pravda,4 Russia is the fourth largest importer of US meats, purchasing about $500 million-worth of beef and pork annually. At present, the US does not even test for the presence of this drug in meats sold, even though animal research has linked ractopamine to:

Reductions in reproductive function
Birth defects (Canadian researchers5 found that, in rats, the drug produced a variety of birth defects, including cleft palate, protruding tongue, short limbs, missing or fused digits, open eyelids, jaw abnormalities, limb abnormalities, and enlarged heart)
Increase of mastitis in dairy herds
Increased disability and death


In both pigs and cattle, FDA reports6 links the drug to: excessive hunger, anorexia, bloat, respiratory- and hoof problems, lameness, stiffness, stress and aggression, and—again—death. In fact, of all reported side effects, death topped the list as the most reported problem associated with ractopamine…

Ractopamine is also known to affect the human cardiovascular system, and is thought to be responsible for hyperactivity. It may also cause chromosomal abnormalities and behavioral changes. According to the Russian news source Pravda,7 the drug may cause food poisoning, and Center for Food Safety (CFS) states that8 “[d]ata from the European Food Safety Authority indicates that ractopamine causes elevated heart rates and heart-pounding sensations in humans.

Interesting thoughts about meat safety and FDA it seems.
P.S. crap can someone fix the spelling in the thread there is an a after P instead of an o.

tankie
29 Dec 13,, 04:46
One for the vegans to get their teeth into . :whome:

cyppok
29 Dec 13,, 05:43
One for the vegans to get their teeth into . /\

its kind of funny that Rac/Rak(cancer in Russian) is the beginning of this compound.

so you could sort of make it funny, rac-(cancer)-top-o-mine (although there is an A instead of an O after p)
[ergo cancer top off ingredient] sort of funny to me

YellowFever
29 Dec 13,, 07:15
I nominate the initial post in this thread as the most creative use of font sizes in the history of WAB.

bonehead
29 Dec 13,, 07:15
So according to the article if you have asthma you should eat more meat.

Doktor
29 Dec 13,, 09:24
So according to the article if you have asthma you should eat more meat.

Sure, you will worry for the cancer and the asthma will be the least of your problems.

bonehead
29 Dec 13,, 20:19
Sure, you will worry for the cancer and the asthma will be the least of your problems.

I have asthma. I can tell you first hand that asthma is never the least of my problems.

Doktor
29 Dec 13,, 21:12
I have asthma. I can tell you first hand that asthma is never the least of my problems.

Coming from a family full of pulmonologists (sp) and being raised by one I have no doubts it's not a walk in the park if you have asthma. All I am saying is that cancer will make you forget about it.

bonehead
29 Dec 13,, 22:28
Coming from a family full of pulmonologists (sp) and being raised by one I have no doubts it's not a walk in the park if you have asthma. All I am saying is that cancer will make you forget about it.

Two things here. first when you are fighting for air don't think you can get enough air to even stay conscious you will freely take damned near ANYTHING to breath better and will gladly pay the piper at a later date. I have already taken far more medicine due to asthma the last 5 years than I would have taken otherwise in my previous 45 years. Secondly, they have "cures" for cancer. Asthma? not so much. Asthma is too much of a money maker as a "manageable" disease.

Monash
31 Dec 13,, 06:40
Have you tried desensitisation treatment? This involves going to see an MD specialising in allergies and being tested to identify the 'allergic' triggers for your asthma e.g. dust mites and their excretia are a common one. The MD draws a grid of squares on your arm and then pricks,the skin in each square with a needle tipped with a specific allergin. Then you just sit back and see which squares react the most strongly to identify your likely triggers. After that they will make up a serum containing the allergin/s (in very low concentrations) and over time up the dosage - it is usually administered via droplets placed on the tounge but injections are also possible.

This process isn't a cure for Asthma as such but it does tend to reduce the frequency and seriousness of attacks over time. I worked for me.

Cheers.

bonehead
31 Dec 13,, 07:02
Have you tried desensitisation treatment? This involves going to see an MD specialising in allergies and being tested to identify the 'allergic' triggers for your asthma e.g. dust mites and their excretia are a common one. The MD draws a grid on squares on your arm and then pricks,the skin in each square with a needle tipped with a specific allergin. Then you just sit back and see which squares react the most strongly to identify your likely triggers. After that they will make up a serum containing the allergin/s (in very low concentrations) and over time up the dosage - it is usually administered via droplets placed on the tounge but injections are also possible.

This process isn't a cure for Asthma as such but it does tend to reduce the frequency and seriousness of attacks over time. I worked for me.

Cheers.

I am on the last 6 months of the five year program. I get the shots. I am one of the lucky ones, pollens in one arm and mold in the other. I am also taking aspirin 2x a day because at the same time I got asthma I developed a thing for NSAIDS. My sinuses went to shit also at the same time. Had my second sinus operation a couple of months ago. Never going to California again. I went in and was fine. After 3 months of California I was on deaths doorstep. The shots are working as my spring seasonal allergies have lessoned considerably. However it is clear that there is more than I am reacting to so I get to play find the needle in the haystack. My asthma has been confirmed to be from an allergy so it is just a matter of time before I find the bastard so I can avoid it. I am so done with going to the emergency room and leaving with a shot in the ass and getting billed up the wassu for it.

cyppok
03 Jan 14,, 03:30
I am on the last 6 months of the five year program. I get the shots. I am one of the lucky ones, pollens in one arm and mold in the other. I am also taking aspirin 2x a day because at the same time I got asthma I developed a thing for NSAIDS. My sinuses went to shit also at the same time. Had my second sinus operation a couple of months ago. Never going to California again. I went in and was fine. After 3 months of California I was on deaths doorstep. The shots are working as my spring seasonal allergies have lessoned considerably. However it is clear that there is more than I am reacting to so I get to play find the needle in the haystack. My asthma has been confirmed to be from an allergy so it is just a matter of time before I find the bastard so I can avoid it. I am so done with going to the emergency room and leaving with a shot in the ass and getting billed up the wassu for it.

There are salt caves near Kiev and in the U.S. for asthma suffers where they can come and its' easier to breathe because the air is ultra dry.l
Ukrainian salt mines reinvented as a haven for asthma sufferers | World news | The Guardian (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/dec/03/ukraine.tomparfitt)
some in donetsk too i thinkBBC NEWS | Europe | Ukrainian mine helps asthmatics (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4575388.stm)
Halotherapy for Asthma - Asthma (http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art182231.asp)
Halotherapy
The history of Speleo / Halotherapy | Himalayan salt therapy (http://himalayansalttherapy.com/the-history-of-speleotherapy-halotherapy)
speleotherapy (no drugs)

Salt-Therapy
http://www.healthcentral.com/allergy/c/3387/108662/therapy-sinusitis

Stitch
03 Jan 14,, 20:27
Never going to California again. I went in and was fine. After 3 months of California I was on deaths doorstep.

Amen to that, especially if you live in the Central Valley (like I do)!

I'm okay, but my wife and one of my kids have mild asthma, probably brought on by breating this crappy air down here in the Valley; if it's not mold or pollens, then it's the amazing amount of dust that gets kicked up every year during almond harvesting season. And if it's winter (like it is now), then it's all the wood smoke from people who are too poor to pay their heating bill, so they have to burn wood to stay warm.

Doktor
03 Jan 14,, 20:34
I am on the last 6 months of the five year program. I get the shots. I am one of the lucky ones, pollens in one arm and mold in the other. I am also taking aspirin 2x a day because at the same time I got asthma I developed a thing for NSAIDS. My sinuses went to shit also at the same time. Had my second sinus operation a couple of months ago. Never going to California again. I went in and was fine. After 3 months of California I was on deaths doorstep. The shots are working as my spring seasonal allergies have lessoned considerably. However it is clear that there is more than I am reacting to so I get to play find the needle in the haystack. My asthma has been confirmed to be from an allergy so it is just a matter of time before I find the bastard so I can avoid it. I am so done with going to the emergency room and leaving with a shot in the ass and getting billed up the wassu for it.

Most common triggers are smoke and dust, from what you wrote before it seems like you avoid these (I am under impression you live somewhere near woods). However, cold air is also a trigger. What I can recommend to you is a deserted island. Near water full with iodine. Or to stay close to that new stove during winter.

FJV
03 Jan 14,, 21:06
Two things here. first when you are fighting for air don't think you can get enough air to even stay conscious you will freely take damned near ANYTHING to breath better and will gladly pay the piper at a later date. I have already taken far more medicine due to asthma the last 5 years than I would have taken otherwise in my previous 45 years. Secondly, they have "cures" for cancer. Asthma? not so much. Asthma is too much of a money maker as a "manageable" disease.

You might consider, that fighting for air can put more stress on your body than the medicine does. In a way the asthma can shorten your life more than the medicine.

There are also the dreams you get to experience, when an Asthma episode happens during sleep. Mine take the form of drowning with the extra effect added that it really is harder to breathe, then I wake up with a mild asthma attack.

It also royally pisses me off, when on a bad day one is wheezing like an old guy after climbing some stairs.

And I have just a mild form really, where the medicines do a good job of keeping it manageable.

bonehead
04 Jan 14,, 08:28
You might consider, that fighting for air can put more stress on your body than the medicine does. In a way the asthma can shorten your life more than the medicine.

There are also the dreams you get to experience, when an Asthma episode happens during sleep. Mine take the form of drowning with the extra effect added that it really is harder to breathe, then I wake up with a mild asthma attack.

It also royally pisses me off, when on a bad day one is wheezing like an old guy after climbing some stairs.

And I have just a mild form really, where the medicines do a good job of keeping it manageable.

I went from Mountaineering in February (healthy as a horse) to working in Sacramento in June-October. I had to leave by September as I could no longer go up a flight of stairs and had coughing fits to the point where I would pass out. One time I passed out in my bathroom and put my head through the drywall. My sinuses completely closed. It took a couple of years to be diagnosed with asthma. I hear you loud and clear about being pissed off when doing even moderate activities. Things have improved since then but I am still nowhere near where I could breath before all this happened. My recent and second sinus surgery really opened things up…finally. I can walk but jogging is still a pipe dream. The amount of medicine I have had to take really bothers me. Everything they give me has potential nasty side effects. Then there are the "are you trying to make me sicker?" medicines I get to try. It has been narrowed down to allergy causing. At this point I am just wanting to know what the big offender is so I can avoid it.

bonehead
04 Jan 14,, 08:30
There are salt caves near Kiev and in the U.S. for asthma suffers where they can come and its' easier to breathe because the air is ultra dry.l
Ukrainian salt mines reinvented as a haven for asthma sufferers | World news | The Guardian (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/dec/03/ukraine.tomparfitt)
some in donetsk too i thinkBBC NEWS | Europe | Ukrainian mine helps asthmatics (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4575388.stm)
Halotherapy for Asthma - Asthma (http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art182231.asp)
Halotherapy
The history of Speleo / Halotherapy | Himalayan salt therapy (http://himalayansalttherapy.com/the-history-of-speleotherapy-halotherapy)
speleotherapy (no drugs)

Salt-Therapy
Salt Therapy for Allergies, Sinusitis & Asthma - Does It Work? - Alternative Treatment - Allergy (http://www.healthcentral.com/allergy/c/3387/108662/therapy-sinusitis)

Thanks. I will look into these.

bonehead
04 Jan 14,, 08:37
Amen to that, especially if you live in the Central Valley (like I do)!

I'm okay, but my wife and one of my kids have mild asthma, probably brought on by breating this crappy air down here in the Valley; if it's not mold or pollens, then it's the amazing amount of dust that gets kicked up every year during almond harvesting season. And if it's winter (like it is now), then it's all the wood smoke from people who are too poor to pay their heating bill, so they have to burn wood to stay warm.

At worse I used to have seasonal hay fever. When the grass season was over so were my problems. California changed my life to all year long allergies. I am thinking I picked up a mold that threw me under the bus. Oddly smoke from wood fires doesn't really affect me. cigarette smoke does. My wood stove does a wonderful job of supplying dry heat which dried out the house and my sinuses. Not paying the greedy power company to heat my home is a bonus.

bonehead
04 Jan 14,, 08:43
Most common triggers are smoke and dust, from what you wrote before it seems like you avoid these (I am under impression you live somewhere near woods). However, cold air is also a trigger. What I can recommend to you is a deserted island. Near water full with iodine. Or to stay close to that new stove during winter.

Cold air only bothers me when my throat is raw. Then there is a lot of dry hacking. The only dust that bothers me short term is anything fiberglass related. I used to take a lot of tums and other heartburn stuff to save my throat but I recently tried an over the counter anti yeast extract and the heartburn is gone and the reaction to cold air is not so bad either.