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    http://www.news.com.au/common/story_...55E401,00.html

    This happened after a suicide bombing and the Germans have the nerve to call Israel's strike "unacceptable".

    We all know Syria couldn't last a month against an IDF invasion. So what do you think Syria will do?

    Last edited by Praxus; 05 Oct 03,, 16:06.

  • #2
    They will bitch and moan to the UN, they cant do anything else. But seeing as Israel and Syria are technically at war, and this airstrike was not against a civillian target...Syria has no right to complain.

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    • #3
      I hope they go to war and Israel finnally rids the world of Syria and their support for Terror.

      It would be the second Yom Kippur War.
      Last edited by Praxus; 05 Oct 03,, 20:28.

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      • #4
        Syria has been attacking Israel by proxy with Hezbollah for two decades. They have nothing to whine about.
        "Every man has his weakness. Mine was always just cigarettes."

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        • #5
          Israeli strike sparks crisis talks

          Israeli strike sparks crisis talks

          The United Nations Security Council is meeting in emergency session to discuss an Israeli air raid inside Syria.
          Damascus demanded the meeting, warning that Israel was threatening security in the Middle East with its first attack on Syrian soil in more than 20 years.

          Israeli jets targeted what the military said was a Palestinian terrorist camp near the Syrian capital in the early hours of Sunday. Syria insists the site was a civilian zone.

          The attack was in retaliation for a devastating suicide bomb on a restaurant in the northern port of Haifa on Saturday, which killed 19 people.

          UN Secretary General Kofi Annan strongly deplored the Israeli air strike and expressed concern that this could lead to a further escalation of an already tense and difficult situation in the Middle East.

          Syria and Israel are long-standing enemies, still technically at war over Israel's occupation and illegal annexation of the Golan Heights.

          'Unjustifiable attack'

          Going into the meeting in New York, Syrian Ambassador to the UN Faisal Mekdad said his country would table a draft resolution asking the Council to condemn the Israeli attack and to call on Israel to desist from further attacks.

          He said he expected a good response from his fellow ambassadors.

          "Syria will raise its concerns and position on this brutal attack, this unjustifiable attack," he told reporters.

          But Israel's ambassador, Dan Gillerman, expressed "outrage and dismay" at the fact that the Security Council had agreed to hold the meeting at all, particularly as it comes a day after the Haifa bomb and on the eve of the Jewish holy day, Yom Kippur.

          "For Syria to call a Security Council meeting is as if Bin Laden had called a Security Council meeting after 9/11," he said, adding that it was the "epitome of double standards".

          He would not comment on whether Israel planned further attacks in the region, saying only that "Israel will continue to do whatever necessary to protect the lives of its citizens".

          He said he would be "very surprised" if the US would support Syria's resolution, commenting on President George W Bush's condemnation of Syria as part of the "axis of evil".

          The US State Department has urged both Syria and Israel "to avoid actions that could lead to an escalation of tension".

          On Sunday, Israelis began burying those killed in Saturday's bomb, including three generations of the Zev Aviv family which lost five family members.

          Four young children and several Arabs were among the 19 people who died at the seafront restaurant in Haifa. About 50 people were injured in the attack, which wrecked the building.

          It was one of the deadliest suicide attacks since the start of the Palestinian intifada three years ago.

          Change of policy

          Israel said the target of the air-raid was the Ein Saheb camp, 22 kilometres (14 miles) outside Damascus, which it claimed was used by several militant groups, including Hamas and Islamic Jihad.

          Syrian media have described Ein Saheb as a Palestinian refugee camp.

          Syrian Foreign Minister Farouk al-Sharaa said the raid "threatens security and peace in the region and internationally, and could aggravate the deteriorating situation in the region".

          "Syria has practised the highest level of self-restraint, realising that Israel is trying to create pretexts ... to export its internal crisis to the region," Mr Sharaa said in a letter to the UN.

          The BBC's Kim Ghattas in Beirut says that, given Syria's obsolete army, diplomacy is Damascus' safest path.

          Israeli Government spokesman Avi Pazner stressed that the air strike was not directed against Syria - but against Islamic Jihad, the group which has claimed responsibility for Saturday's bombing.

          But he said every country had to understand that it would be held responsible if it harboured terrorists.

          The Israeli raid marks a clear change in policy for Israel, which normally responds to Palestinian suicide attacks by striking against targets in the West Bank and Gaza.

          http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3166388.stm
          "Every man has his weakness. Mine was always just cigarettes."

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          • #6
            As usual the Arabs will try to pass a resolution condeming Israel, but can you say Veto?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Praxus
              I hope they go to war and Israel finnally rids the world of Syria and their support for Terror.

              It would be the second Yom Kippur War.
              I couldent agree more, yet the UN actually listens to the Syrians?

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              • #8
                The UN is made up of mostly Despotic countries, they are protecting their own.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Gio
                  As usual the Arabs will try to pass a resolution condeming Israel, but can you say Veto?
                  ok, 1 more...eh...actually who cares for the resolution these days??:D
                  A grain of wheat eclipsed the sun of Adam !!

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                  • #10
                    Israel strikes back.

                    MAJDAL SHAMS, Golan Heights — Israeli warplanes bombed an alleged Islamic Jihad (search) training base in Syria Sunday, attacking deep inside the neighboring country for the first time in three decades and widening its pursuit of Palestinian militants.

                    The airstrike -- a retaliation for a homicide bombing Saturday that killed 19 Israelis -- alarmed the Arab world and deepened concerns that three years of Israeli-Palestinian violence could spread through the region. Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for Saturday's bombing, in which 55 people were wounded.

                    Washington urged both sides to show restraint -- but added pointed criticism of Syria (search), saying Damascus "must cease harboring terrorists and make a clean break from those responsible for planning and directing terrorist action from Syrian soil."

                    With little option for military retaliation, Syria turned for international support. On requests from Damascus, the U.N. Security Council and the 22-member Arab League (search) held emergency sessions Sunday as Syria's Foreign Minister Farouq al-Sharaa sought measures to deter Israeli "aggression."

                    Syria's U.N. Ambassador Fayssal Mekdad called on the council to adopt a resolution condemning the attack.

                    "Arabs and many people across the globe feel that Israel is above law," Mekdad said.

                    Israel's Ambassador Dan Gillerman defended the attack. He accused Syria of providing "safe harbor, training facilities, funding, [and] logistical support" to terrorist organizations.

                    Syria's draft calls for Israel to stop committing acts that could threaten regional security. It was unclear when the council would vote on the resolution or whether the United States would veto it.

                    Leaders of Islamic Jihad and other militant groups are based in Syria, but Jihad on Sunday denied having any training bases there. Syrian villagers near the targeted site said the camp had been used by Palestinian gunmen in the 1970s but was later abandoned -- and was now only used by picnickers and other visitors to its spring and olive groves.

                    The raid was a dramatic new tactic for Israel in its attempts to stop Palestinian militants. Closures, assassinations and military strikes into Palestinian areas have failed to stop homicide attacks, and Washington strongly opposes expelling Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat as Israel has threatened.

                    Israel said the bombing signaled it would pursue militants wherever they found support -- and it added an accusation that Iran also backs Islamic Jihad. "Any country who harbors terrorism, who trains [terrorists], supports and encourages them will be responsible to answer for their actions," government spokesman Avi Pazner said.



                    In the West Bank, Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat (search) declared a state of emergency and installed an emergency Cabinet with Ahmed Qureia (search) as prime minister. The hasty action was an apparent attempt to deflect possible Israeli action against Arafat following the homicide bombing since Israel has threatened to expel him.

                    The leader of Islamic Jihad, Ramadan Shallah, told Dubai-based Al-Arabiya TV that the Israeli attack was "a grave development that exceeded all rules of the game." He also warned Israel that the homicide bombing "will not be the last resistance operation" committed by his group.

                    In Egypt, the Arab League condemned the Israeli attack. It said the bombing "exposes the deteriorating situation in the region to uncontrollable consequences, which could drag the whole region into violent whirlpool."

                    The strike was launched just hours before the start of Yom Kippur (search), the holiest day on the Jewish calendar. It also came on the eve of the anniversary of the 1973 war between Israel and Syria, when Israel fought off a Syrian attack aimed at reversing Israel's 1967 seizure of the Golan Heights, a strategic border plateau. Sunday marked Israel's first military action deep in Syria since 1973.

                    The attack hit several targets at the Ein Saheb camp northwest of Damascus, Israeli security officials said. Hours later, plainclothes security officials banned journalists from approaching the camp. Dense trees blocked the site from view.

                    Bush administration officials said Israel had not informed Washington in advance of its retaliatory strike.

                    Raanan Gissin, adviser to Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon (search), said the base was financed by Iran and used by several terrorist organizations, including Hamas and Islamic Jihad.

                    Undated footage said to be from the camp, taken from Iranian TV and released by the Israeli military on Sunday, shows a military officer conducting a tour of the camp. Hundreds of weapons, including grenades with Hebrew markings apparently captured from Israel, were displayed in one room. Underground tunnels were packed with arms and ammunition.

                    Another group, the tiny Syrian-based Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General Command said it once used the camp, 14 miles northwest of Damascus, but that it is now deserted. A civilian guard was injured in the air strike, the group said.

                    However, a senior Popular Front member, speaking on condition of anonymity, acknowledged that there is close cooperation between his group, Islamic Jihad, the militant group Hamas, and the Lebanese guerrilla faction Hezbollah. All four train together, mostly in Lebanon, but also in Syria, he said.

                    In an understanding with the Syrian government, Hamas and Jihad leaders have been careful in recent months to give statements from Lebanon to avoid the impression that they still operate from Damascus.

                    Still, Syrian President Bashar Assad (search) is on the defensive, with the United States accusing him of hosting extremist groups and sponsoring terror.

                    Assad, after meeting with Secretary of State Colin Powell (search) in May in Damascus, indicated that his government had closed certain offices of Palestinian militant groups. However, last weekend, U.S. National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice (search) said Syria needed to do more.

                    It seemed unlikely Syria would retaliate. It has 380,000 active duty soldiers, but Israel holds a commanding technological edge. Israel is more worried about Syria's growing missile program and its ability to launch chemical and poison weapons into Israel's cities.

                    Egypt, Jordan and Lebanon -- three Arab countries border Israel -- condemned the air strike. "It can drag the whole region into a circle of violence," said Jordanian Foreign Minister Marwan Muasher.

                    Britain, the leading U.S. ally in the United Nations Security Council, was more critical of Israel. Britain's U.N. Ambassador Emyr Jones Parry said, "Israel's action today is unacceptable and represents an escalation."

                    "Israel should not allow its justified anger at continuing terrorism to lead to actions that undermine both the peace process and we believe Israel's own interests," he said.

                    The United States, trying to put its peace efforts back on track, has in past days appeared willing to give Qureia a chance, and any Israeli action against Arafat could force Qureia's immediate resignation and cause chaos in the Palestinian areas.

                    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,99140,00.html

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                    • #11
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                      Originally posted by Praxus
                      I hope they go to war and Israel finnally rids the world of Syria and their support for Terror.

                      It would be the second Yom Kippur War.
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                      I couldent agree more, yet the UN actually listens to the Syrians?
                      With US forces already in Iraq, maybe it could be a joint US-Israeli invasion. I realize that won't happen because the US must give some thought to what the other despotic Arab regimes would think to an attack on yet another evil dictator, but its nice to dream isnt it?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ZFBoxcar
                        With US forces already in Iraq, maybe it could be a joint US-Israeli invasion. I realize that won't happen because the US must give some thought to what the other despotic Arab regimes would think to an attack on yet another evil dictator, but its nice to dream isnt it?
                        We already got Iraq. I think it's Israel's turn.

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                        • #13
                          Fair enough. But for it to happen the US would at least have to endorse such a war. I mean...if the state department is going to condemn Israel's invasion of Syria thats sort of an incentive not to invade. And thats what would happen, although I'm not criticizing the US for that because I suppose as far as the US government is concerned, there is no real incentive to invade Syria. Yes, they support terrorism, but there havent been many acts of terror against the US since 9/11, and thats what the American state department official will think.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ZFBoxcar
                            Fair enough. But for it to happen the US would at least have to endorse such a war. I mean...if the state department is going to condemn Israel's invasion of Syria thats sort of an incentive not to invade. And thats what would happen, although I'm not criticizing the US for that because I suppose as far as the US government is concerned, there is no real incentive to invade Syria. Yes, they support terrorism, but there havent been many acts of terror against the US since 9/11, and thats what the American state department official will think.
                            McCarthy was right the State Department is full of commies.

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                            • #15
                              If it was upto me Isreal would have free hand (with blessing) to straighten out the whole region...
                              Your look more lost than a bastard child on fathers day.

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