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bonehead
11 Sep 13,, 08:25
The good news is that Coloradan voters fired a couple of anti gun legislatures in a recall election. That is a huge victory for freedom. However, they still have to abolish the horrible anti gun legislation the state passed earlier.
Colo. lawmakers lose recalls over gun laws support (http://news.yahoo.com/colo-lawmakers-lose-recalls-over-gun-laws-support-044432096.html?bcmt=comments-postbox)


The bad news. California got even more stupid and actually expanded gun bans.
California lawmakers pass expanded semi-automatic weapons ban (http://news.yahoo.com/california-lawmakers-pass-expanded-semi-automatic-weapons-ban-005606155.html?bcmt=comments-postbox)

tankie
11 Sep 13,, 12:44
Bit of a quandary mate. With the U/K it was a blanket ban on most guns .

desertswo
11 Sep 13,, 15:37
Bit of a quandary mate. With the U/K it was a blanket ban on most guns .

I feel your pain. Make it over to the "wild, wild West" here and I'll set you up with my M-4A3 and 100 rounds (now that ammo is once again becoming available at reasonable prices). It's great for stress relief. When I was CO, my Gunner's Mates had an M-14 positioned on the bridge under lock and key while underway, with five 20 round magazines just for relief of my stress. I killed a shitload of waves. :biggrin:

True story. When my ship was decommissioned, it was sold to the Egyptian Navy. They got the 5" inch ammo, the torpedoes, the ASROC and the Harpoons, but we were ordered to offload all small arms and crew served ammunition "through the barrel" (that's actually the way the message was worded). God, we had a great time. I don't think there was a member of the crew who didn't shoot their fair share. I never really realized how much of that stuff we had until we started shooting. You know you see these monthly ammo reports that you sign but they are just numbers until it's all stacked up on the fantail and the expended brass is piling up. I probably put 50 rounds through an M79 grenade launcher alone. M-60s, M-14s, M1911A .45s, 12 gauge riot guns; they were all going at once. Thousands of rounds of NATO 7.62 churning up the sea. There were a lot of fish in the Gulf of Mexico with headaches for sure.

Officer of Engineers
11 Sep 13,, 15:39
I feel your pain. Make it over to the "wild, wild West" here and I'll set you up with my M-4A3 and 100 rounds (now that ammo is once again becoming available at reasonable prices). It's great for stress relief. When I was CO, my Gunner's Mates had an M-14 positioned on the bridge under lock and key while underway, with five 20 round magazines just for relief of my stress. I killed a shitload of waves. :biggrin:

True story. When my ship was decommissioned, it was sold to the Egyptian Navy. They got the 5" inch ammo, the torpedoes, the ASROC and the Harpoons, but we were ordered to offload all small arms and crew served ammunition "through the barrel" (that's actually the way the message was worded). God, we had a great time. I don't think there was a member of the crew who didn't shoot their fair share. I never really realized how much of that stuff we had until we started shooting. You know you see these monthly ammo reports that you sign but they are just numbers until it's all stacked up on the fantail and the expended brass is piling up. I probably put 50 rounds through an M79 grenade launcher alone. M-60s, M-14s, M1911A .45s, 12 gauge riot guns; they were all going at once. Thousands of rounds of NATO 7.62 churning up the sea. There were a lot of fish in the Gulf of Mexico with headaches for sure.I'm jealous

tankie
11 Sep 13,, 15:45
/\ Me too , thanks for the offer Cpt.

desertswo
11 Sep 13,, 15:46
I'm jealous

There are things up your way I'm jealous of, but gun laws aren't one of them. ;)

desertswo
11 Sep 13,, 15:50
/\ Me too , thanks for the offer Cpt.

I wouldn't have to fan you or anything if you keel over from the heat, would I? It's pretty much 43 degrees here from late-April to late-October, so it's not for the faint of heart.

Doktor
11 Sep 13,, 15:53
43? Celsius? Tell me about the humidity.

tankie
11 Sep 13,, 15:57
I wouldn't have to fan you or anything if you keel over from the heat, would I? It's pretty much 43 degrees here from late-April to late-October, so it's not for the faint of heart.

Not if you have air con n plenty liquids on hand , :tankie:

desertswo
11 Sep 13,, 17:50
43? Celsius? Tell me about the humidity.

Yup, Celsius. This time of year is monsoon season so it's up around 40%. Doesn't sound like much but when it's 43 degrees out, it's bad enough.

Stitch
11 Sep 13,, 18:16
The bad news. California got even more stupid and actually expanded gun bans.
California lawmakers pass expanded semi-automatic weapons ban (http://news.yahoo.com/california-lawmakers-pass-expanded-semi-automatic-weapons-ban-005606155.html?bcmt=comments-postbox)

Welcome to Commifornia!

Doktor
11 Sep 13,, 20:00
Yup, Celsius. This time of year is monsoon season so it's up around 40%. Doesn't sound like much but when it's 43 degrees out, it's bad enough.

43C is high, but not a lot. At least not for us. Just wonder how to combine that weather with the steak and eggs ;)

YellowFever
11 Sep 13,, 22:10
Yup, Celsius. This time of year is monsoon season so it's up around 40%. Doesn't sound like much but when it's 43 degrees out, it's bad enough.


Captain, you have it easy.

The 2 weeks I spent in Bullhead City, AZ (across the river from Laughlin, NV), the average temperature at night was 104 degrees with 70-80% humidity.

It made the hottest day I spent in Phoenix feel like a cool autumn day in San Diego. :tongue:

aerosol
14 Sep 13,, 07:50
Gun-control people out. Good. Here in Sweden, almost all murders are gangster related so our need for a Second Amendment is pretty much zero. But in America, the situation must be quite different and anyone who wants to repeal the Second Amendment from the U.S. Constitution (like Alex Wagner on Obama TV known as MSNBC), then people will surely kick their Congressmen out of office and that's a good sign for sure.

Chogy
16 Sep 13,, 17:46
M-60s, M-14s, M1911A .45s, 12 gauge riot guns; they were all going at once. Thousands of rounds of NATO 7.62 churning up the sea. There were a lot of fish in the Gulf of Mexico with headaches for sure.

My Dad was in Japan in 1945... he and his buddies were ordered to "dispose" of multiple pallets of .30 carbine ammo, no doubt left over from the great build-up on Okinawa for the aborted invasion.

They apparently burned up several M2 carbines in the process. ;)

desertswo
16 Sep 13,, 22:31
My Dad was in Japan in 1945... he and his buddies were ordered to "dispose" of multiple pallets of .30 carbine ammo, no doubt left over from the great build-up on Okinawa for the aborted invasion.

They apparently burned up several M2 carbines in the process. ;)

We had Omar Bradley's M-2 at the Pentagon. Kind of beat up. ;) I own an M-1 carbine manufactured by the Singer Sewing Machine Company. :) I'd love to own an M-2 but the fully automatic thing kind of precludes that from happening.

tuna
17 Sep 13,, 14:14
We had Omar Bradley's M-2 at the Pentagon. Kind of beat up. ;) I own an M-1 carbine manufactured by the Singer Sewing Machine Company. :) I'd love to own an M-2 but the fully automatic thing kind of precludes that from happening.

Only as far as the overinflated prices since 1987 (thank you Bush 1) goes. They should still be on the market.

I remember as a kid trying to talk my dad into buying a full auto (I was around 12 - 13). We were seriously considering an M3 for ~$350 IIRC (this was back in the early 80s) but my dad felt that was way too much money for what he termed a piece of crap. He'd crap himself if he ever saw what they go for now - talk about missed investments.