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Agnostic Muslim
01 Jul 13,, 14:53
US responsible for terrorism in Xinjiang: China

By AFP
Published: July 1, 201

URUMQI: The United States is encouraging “terrorism” in Xinjiang, Chinese state media said Monday, also claiming that separatists in the region – which has a large Uighur minority – had fought alongside Syrian rebels.

Beijing denies that unrest in the vast region bordering Central Asia – which last week left at least 35 people dead – is due to ethnic tensions between the Uighurs and China’s majority Han.

It has vowed to crack down on “terrorist groups”, ordering military exercises ahead of Friday’s anniversary of major riots in 2009 that left around 200 dead.

But rights groups for the mostly Muslim Uighurs blame unrest on economic inequality and religious repression, something that Washington has raised concerns against.

The People’s Daily, a mouthpiece for the ruling Communist Party, slammed the US government and media for what it said was its role in the violence.

“For fear of a lack of chaos in China,” it said in a commentary, the US was “conspiring to direct the calamity of terrorist activities toward China”.

“America’s double standards on the issue of countering terrorism are no different than incitement and indulgence…how is this different than those who act as accomplices to terrorism?” it said.

It asked if the 9/11 attacks and Boston marathon bombings in April meant “America’s ethnic and religious policies also have problems”, while rejecting such linkages in China.

“The violent terrorist incidents in Xinjiang are not an ethnic issue or a religious issue,” it said, calling the “massacres” of officials and bystanders “inhumane”.

According to the official Xinhua news agency, “knife-wielding mobs” attacked police stations and other sites in the town of Lukqun last Wednesday before security personnel arrived and opened fire. At least 35 people were killed.

Two days later, Xinhua said that more than a 100 “terrorists” provoked “riots” in the prefecture of Hotan, attacking people “who had gathered at local religious venues”.

Last Friday a US State Department spokesman said it was “deeply concerned about the ongoing reports of discrimination against and restrictions on Uighurs in China”.

He said the US urged a “transparent investigation” but did not want to “draw broader conclusions” about the incidents.

The state-run Global Times criticised Western media and public opinion on Monday for misrepresenting the violence as ethnic conflict, referring to it instead as “violent terrorism fuelled by the West”.

“Western public opinion is fooling these ignorant extremists through cheap support,” the paper said in an editorial.

This “indulges the views of these violent terrorists, who are in fact a small, isolated group”, it said.

In a separate article only available in Chinese, the paper accused members of the “East Turkestan” movement of joining “terrorist groups” in Syria to fight the government of Bashar al-Assad before returning to Xinjiang to plot attacks.

It cited the case of a man in his 20s recruited by an “education and mutual aid association” acting as a terrorist training front.

After being sent to Syria, the recruit was ordered back to Xinjiang to “raise” the level of the struggle there, where he was caught.

The Uyghur World Congress hit back at what it called China’s “distorting accusations”.

“Uighurs live in an outdoor prison,” it said in an emailed statement, adding that their “resistance had nothing to do with terrorism”.

On Saturday, large sections of the Xinjiang capital Urumqi were shut down as military vehicles took to the streets with at least 1000 personnel from the People’s Armed Police, part of China’s armed forces responsible for law enforcement and internal security during peacetime.

Beijing’s assertive presence on the ground comes ahead of the sensitive anniversary of riots between Uighurs and China’s ethnic majority Han four years ago.

The Muslim fasting month of Ramadan is also expected to begin next week.

In recent decades many Han Chinese have relocated to Xinjiang, which is rich in coal and gas, provoking friction.

The two communities tend to live in separate neighbourhoods in Urumqi, and a greater security presence could be seen in the Uighur area on Monday.

Paramilitary forces stood in clusters every 100 metres or so around the grand bazaar, and police vehicles drove by occasionally.

Beijing denies repressing China’s ethnic minorities, who make up less than 10 percent of the national population and enjoy some preferential policies.

US responsible for terrorism in Xinjiang: China – The Express Tribune (http://tribune.com.pk/story/570866/us-responsible-for-terrorism-in-xinjiang-china/)

Dreadnought
01 Jul 13,, 20:49
Im guessing here the Freedom of Religion insights others that dont believe in it that everyone else is a terrorist.:rolleyes:

One thing this story lacks.......Proof.

Agnostic Muslim
01 Jul 13,, 20:52
One thing this story lacks.......Proof.
Agreed - the allegation of 'US support for terrorism in China' appears to be tied into Chinese arrests of Uighur militants allegedly trained by (or fought with) the Syrian rebels, which in turn are being supported by the US and her Middle East allies.

There appears to be no evidence of direct US support for insurgents/terrorists fighting the government in Eastern China ...

Bigfella
01 Jul 13,, 22:45
Agreed - the allegation of 'US support for terrorism in China' appears to be tied into Chinese arrests of Uighur militants allegedly trained by (or fought with) the Syrian rebels, which in turn are being supported by the US and her Middle East allies.

There appears to be no evidence of direct US support for insurgents/terrorists fighting the government in Eastern China ...

On the other hand, there IS evidence of direct Pakistani support for terrorists in China. Of course, in the AM universe letting terrorists recruit & set up training camps in your nation isn't 'support', while sending non-military aid to people who are allied to terrorists is.

Another bullshit thread.

China blames terror camps in Pakistan as 20 killed in for Xinjiang violence - Times Of India (http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-08-01/china/29838192_1_kashgar-east-turkistan-islamic-movement-uyghur)

Agnostic Muslim
01 Jul 13,, 22:54
On the other hand, there IS evidence of direct Pakistani support for terrorists in China. Of course, in the AM universe letting terrorists recruit & set up training camps in your nation isn't 'support', while sending non-military aid to people who are allied to terrorists is.
China blames terror camps in Pakistan as 20 killed in for Xinjiang violence - Times Of India (http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-08-01/china/29838192_1_kashgar-east-turkistan-islamic-movement-uyghur)

How is direct military aid to individuals allied with terrorists and/or terrorists NOT evidence of 'US support for terrorists in China' compared to 'letting terrorists recruit & set up training camps in your nation'?


Another bullshit thread.
Hey, I didn't write the article in the AFP nor did I make the allegations in the Chinese media - the only thing you could call 'bullshit' are the Chinese allegations (or arguments by posters on the thread, and other than the fact that you went on a rant against Pakistan I don't really see where you disagreed with my post that you quoted), and not the thread itself.

Bigfella
02 Jul 13,, 09:45
Hey, I didn't write the article in the AFP nor did I make the allegations in the Chinese media - the only thing you could call 'bullshit' are the Chinese allegations (or arguments by posters on the thread, and other than the fact that you went on a rant against Pakistan I don't really see where you disagreed with my post that you quoted), and not the thread itself.

AFP didn't start this thread. Neither did the Chinese Government - whose propaganda this ultimately is. Starting a thread based on this article & then throwing your hands up & claiming 'but I don't agree with it' is pretty much par for the course with you and the purpose is transparent.

Like I said, bullshit thread.

Agnostic Muslim
02 Jul 13,, 15:43
AFP didn't start this thread. Neither did the Chinese Government - whose propaganda this ultimately is. Starting a thread based on this article & then throwing your hands up & claiming 'but I don't agree with it' is pretty much par for the course with you and the purpose is transparent.

Like I said, bullshit thread.
And what exactly do you find wrong with discussing the Chinese allegations of 'US support for terrorists in China'? Would you rather that such allegations were brushed under the table?

Instead of obsessing over my 'motives', try discussing, refuting, accepting or just plain 'ignoring' the thread topic.

Doktor
02 Jul 13,, 16:21
It is funny how you can't live to your standards in the other thread and labeled LTs video as propaganda.

Agnostic Muslim
02 Jul 13,, 16:29
It is funny how you can't live to your standards in the other thread and labeled LTs video as propaganda.
Please explain what position my comments in this thread suggest I am taking and how exactly those comments contradict my position WRT to the propaganda video by Lemontree that blatantly distorts the comments of a journalist in the video itself.

What are these 'standards' that you suggest I am 'violating' in this thread?

Doktor
02 Jul 13,, 16:37
Captain posted a video and you refuted it by calling it Indian propaganda. Without any further comments.

You post a thread and BF calls it Chinese propaganda and gets your response.

Agnostic Muslim
02 Jul 13,, 16:43
Captain posted a video and you refuted it by calling it Indian propaganda. Without any further comments.

You post a thread and BF calls it Chinese propaganda and gets your response.
Please go back to that thread and read the post again - you must have read it before I edited it and explained why I thought it was propaganda.

Doktor
02 Jul 13,, 18:27
Oh, you have added 2 paragraphs after your initial response. I have missed them.

But my point is still valid :tongue: At one point you thought that's enough.

Agnostic Muslim
02 Jul 13,, 19:04
But my point is still valid :tongue: At one point you thought that's enough.
I am human - it was a knee jerk reaction to something so obviously false :biggrin:

gf0012-aust
03 Jul 13,, 02:52
This has run its course already

time to get back on track or its getting locked

Officer of Engineers
03 Jul 13,, 04:18
Lock it. Even AM admits that it's a bullshit post.

gf0012-aust
03 Jul 13,, 04:25
Done