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    Pakistani premier says Musharraf to face trial for treason
    The Associated Press
    Published Monday, June 24, 2013

    ISLAMABAD, Pakistan -- Pakistan's prime minister said Monday that the government plans to put the military ruler who ousted him in a coup over a decade ago on trial for treason, setting up a possible clash with the country's powerful army. Sharif said the government agrees with the Supreme Court's decision that Musharraf committed treason under Article 6 of the constitution when he declared a state of emergency in 2007 and suspended the constitution. "The prime minister is under oath to protect, preserve and defend the constitution and it is implicit in his oath that his government ensures that persons guilty of acts under Article 6 are brought to justice," Sharif said in parliament. "Musharraf has to answer for all his deeds in court," Sharif said in a separate part of the speech.

    Musharraf would be the first military ruler tried for treason in a country that has experienced three military coups in its nearly 66-year history. Musharraf, who is currently under house arrest in connection with a separate case, could face the death penalty or life in prison if he is convicted of treason. But some analysts doubt the army, which is considered the country's most powerful institution, would allow that to happen and could intervene to prevent it. Musharraf has maintained his innocence.
    Source: CTV News

    Pakistan continues to astonish me.
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  • #2
    Originally posted by Minskaya View Post
    Source: CTV News

    Pakistan continues to astonish me.
    In what context do you find this news 'astonishing'?
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Agnostic Muslim View Post
      In what context do you find this news 'astonishing'?
      The news in and of itself doesn't astonish. It's more the continual Banana Republic quality of the news.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Minskaya View Post
        The news in and of itself doesn't astonish. It's more the continual Banana Republic quality of the news.
        So, would you rather not have former military dictators prosecuted in the courts, or is there something else you are referring to when you criticize the 'quality of the news'?
        Last edited by Agnostic Muslim; 24 Jun 13,, 15:56.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Agnostic Muslim View Post
          So, would you rather not have former military dictators prosecuted in the courts, or is there something else you are referring to when you criticize the 'quality of the news'?
          If you really want to impress people around the globe, prosecute the ISI Directors who got you into such a fine mess.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Minskaya View Post
            If you really want to impress people around the globe, prosecute the ISI Directors who got you into such a fine mess.
            That is a different argument/discussion - I mean, you could pick any random article from the media in Pakistan and argue 'the news is not about the ISI DG's being prosecuted so I am not impressed', which would be a rather pointless exercise/comment. My question to you is what exactly do you find 'lacking in quality' in this particular news report suggesting that a former military dictator will be prosecuted in the courts?
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Agnostic Muslim View Post
              My question to you is what exactly do you find 'lacking in quality' in this particular news report suggesting that a former military dictator will be prosecuted in the courts?
              Hardly unexpected. It's simply another soap-opera sojourn into the seamy side of Pakistani politics.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Minskaya View Post
                Hardly unexpected. It's simply another soap-opera sojourn into the seamy side of Pakistani politics.
                Well, yes, commentators have been arguing that Musharraf is likely to be prosecuted ever since the PMLN government was elected, given the bad blood between Musharraf and Nawaz Sharif.

                The interesting part of the whole dynamic is whether the trial itself will be completed without some sort of 'deal making' resulting in an 'AQ Khan style' sentence for Musharraf, whether the trial will be perceived as 'fair' and how the military will react to it.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Agnostic Muslim View Post
                  Well, yes, commentators have been arguing that Musharraf is likely to be prosecuted ever since the PMLN government was elected, given the bad blood between Musharraf and Nawaz Sharif.
                  Bad blood is... an understatement.

                  Originally posted by Agnostic Muslim View Post
                  The interesting part of the whole dynamic is whether the trial itself will be completed without some sort of 'deal making'...
                  A deal like the one brokered by the Saudis in 2000 to get Sharif out of prison and out of Pakistan?

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                  • #10
                    Mushy is already "under mortal threat" and under virtual house arrest. I would expect said threat level to intensify prompting him to be transferred to an undisclosed location. Or he might develop some heart condition, high blood pressure, blood sugar, the pink toe syndrome or some other random, life threatening affliction due to which he needs to be hospitalized in an undisclosed private facility. Meanwhile the GOP (under NS) continues to promise bringing him to justice while the threat level is reviewed.

                    Military avoid humiliating trial while getting him out of their hair, NS neutralizes him without going toe to toe with the army. Problem solved.

                    If Kayani does offer Mushy up, I would expect him to get some massive payback in return for the army.
                    "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" ~ Epicurus

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Minskaya View Post
                      Source: CTV News

                      Pakistan continues to astonish me.
                      Saying and doing are two entirely different things.

                      One thing everyone should've learned by now is to never believe in the words coming out of Pakistan; they mean nothing. Only judge them by their actions.

                      If Musharraf is actually trialed and convicted for such, it'll be a win for Pakistani institutions over the long term. Otherwise, same old, same old.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Tronic View Post
                        Saying and doing are two entirely different things.
                        Which is precisely why Pakistan continually astonishes me.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Minskaya View Post
                          Which is precisely why Pakistan continually astonishes me.
                          If your criticism about this particular article was about the 'saying vs doing' aspect, then waiting for some sort of 'out of court settlement in violation of the constitution' would have served as a better target for your 'astonishment'.

                          At the moment all we have is a declaration of intent to prosecute Musharraf for 'treason' - there is little to be astonished about that.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Agnostic Muslim View Post
                            At the moment all we have is a declaration of intent to prosecute Musharraf for 'treason' - there is little to be astonished about that.
                            Detach yourself for a moment AM and view this as an outsider. Ergo, no matter how this falls, remote viewers will invariably consider the result astonishing.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Minskaya View Post
                              Detach yourself for a moment AM and view this as an outsider. Ergo, no matter how this falls, remote viewers will invariably consider the result astonishing.
                              OK, so as an 'outsider', you consider the mere fact that the elected Prime Minster declared an intent to prosecute a former military dictator an 'astonishing event' -that is fine, but for now at least this is an 'astonishing event' in a positive context.
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