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    Good news indeed. Enough of senseless bloodshed.

    LONDON — Abdullah Ocalan, the jailed leader of the rebel Kurdish Workers Party, or P.K.K., called for a ceasefire Thursday in the three-decade war between Kurdish rebels and the Turkish state, giving a new impetus to New Year celebrations by Kurds.

    Hundreds of thousands of Kurds gathered in the eastern Turkish city of Diyarbakir to observe a holiday that they were long forbidden to celebrate publicly in Turkey.

    In a message to pro-Kurdish legislators, Mr. Ocalan called for thousands of his fighters to withdraw from Turkish territory: “We have reached the point where the guns must be silenced and where ideas must speak.”

    The truce marks the culmination of intensive negotiations between Mr. Ocalan and Turkish officials on ending a conflict that cost 40,000 lives.

    The breakthrough will reverberate beyond Turkey’s borders to neighboring Syria, Iraq and Iran, all countries with large Kurdish minorities.

    The estimated 30 million Kurds of the Middle East —official figures are deliberately vague — represent the largest nation in the world without a state of its own.

    Although linguistically related to the Persians of Iran, which was also celebrating the pre-Islamic New Year festival of Norouz on Thursday, the Kurds have maintained a distinctive culture that has survived centuries of division and repression.

    Their fortunes have seen a sharp change in the past decade, with the war in Iraq, the Arab Spring and Syria’s descent into civil war.

    Ten years ago this week, Kurds were fleeing to the mountains from the cities of northern Iraq in anticipation of attacks by the forces of Saddam Hussein following the U.S.-led invasion.

    Kurdish forces held the line in the north on behalf of the international coalition after Turkey refused to join the invasion.

    A decade on, an autonomous Kurdistan is now the most secure and prosperous region of Iraq and enjoys close relations with a formerly hostile Turkey.

    In Syria, Kurdish forces, including those allied to the P.K.K., have taken over territory and frontiers abandoned by the retreating troops of the Damascus regime.

    Fears of a Kurdish contagion have now spread to Iran, where the pro-Syrian Tehran regime is concerned that a P.K.K. peace agreement will not only strengthen Turkey’s hand in the region but might also encourage unrest among its own Kurdish population.

    “A P.K.K. that suspends its operations in Turkey is most likely to support the armed struggle of the Iranian Kurds and fight against Iran, or to go to Syria to boost and consolidate the gains of the Kurdish people there,” according to Bayram Sinkaya, writing for Turkey’s Center for Middle Eastern Strategic Studies.

    For centuries, and before the creation of the modern Iranian, Turkish, Iraqi and Syrian states, rival powers used the Kurds to fight their wars with little benefit to the divided Kurdish nation.

    In modern times, movements such as the P.K.K. have been used as proxies in conflicts between hostile neighboring states.

    Analysts believe Turkey was prompted to make its own accommodation with a rebel movement it had failed to crush in response to the increasing influence within Syria of the P.K.K.-linked Democratic Union Party, or P.Y.D.

    “The Kurdish issue is Turkey’s Achilles heel,” Kadri Gursel wrote at Al Monitor, which covers trends in the Middle East. “It is its bleeding wound and as long as it remains as such Ankara cannot maintain an ambitious policy that would mean challenging regional powers.”

    The ultimate success of Turkey’s attempt to solve its Kurdish question will doubtless depend on its readiness to recognize the democratic and cultural rights of its Kurdish population.

    Kurdish movements in the Middle East, including the P.K.K., have broadly abandoned the objective of creating a pan-Kurdish state, an aspiration that was denied to the Kurds in the post-World War I settlement imposed by the world powers.

    They now seek broader autonomy and equal rights within the established borders of existing states. The Turkish-Kurdish truce might bring them one step closer to that goal.

    Within a changing Middle East, the Kurds might well discern a symbolic spark of freedom from the Noruuz bonfires they light on Thursday.
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    And they say jail don't rehab people.
    No such thing as a good tax - Churchill

    To make mistakes is human. To blame someone else for your mistake, is strategic.

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    • #3
      PKK is not demilitarized, they are barely agreeing to a ceasefire. Which means we are negotiating with terrorist rebels who cannot be trusted in any way. We should have hanged him. And then give Kurds cultural rights.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by TTL View Post
        PKK is not demilitarized, they are barely agreeing to a ceasefire. Which means we are negotiating with terrorist rebels who cannot be trusted in any way. We should have hanged him. And then give Kurds cultural rights.
        Than you would've turned him into a martyr, and martyrs make it even easier for people to rally behind their cause..
        Cow is the only animal that not only inhales oxygen, but also exhales it.
        -Rekha Arya, Former Minister of Animal Husbandry

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        • #5
          Originally posted by TTL View Post
          PKK is not demilitarized, they are barely agreeing to a ceasefire. Which means we are negotiating with terrorist rebels who cannot be trusted in any way. We should have hanged him. And then give Kurds cultural rights.
          They tried it for 30 years with no apparent tangible result, just more and more body bags. It is good to see both sides have agreed on trying a different path.

          May be PKK has learned a lesson or two from Tamil Tigers, who continued on bloodshed option only to meet the fate of getting annihilated along with it the aspirations of millions of Tamil minority in Sri Lanka for better & discrimination-free life.

          May the peace talk is the main reason for why this year Norouz Celebration (Iranian new year and start of Calender which all Kurds also observe and celebrate) In Diyarbakir is far more intense with lager crowd participation than the years before.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by TTL View Post
            PKK is not demilitarized, they are barely agreeing to a ceasefire. Which means we are negotiating with terrorist rebels who cannot be trusted in any way. We should have hanged him. And then give Kurds cultural rights.
            Not only did they not hang him but the Government has also not dismissed speculation that Ocalan could be moved to house arrest.

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            • #7
              Whatever back room pundit came up with the semi-autonomous Kurdish region within Iraq is a genius, whether this outcome was deliberated or not.
              In the realm of spirit, seek clarity; in the material world, seek utility.

              Leibniz

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              • #8
                this is an offspring of that semi-autonomous region & Bush's policies (supporting Erdogan back in 2002) ...pkk was nearing its end at the start of 2000's...now look at them..


                and you guys want to see how a westernly educated individual turn in to an enemy of US policies at ME?... just look at me...i hate them all with all my hearth...
                Love all, trust a few, do wrong to none; be able for thine enemy rather in power than use; and keep thy friend under thine own life's key; be checked for silence, but never taxed for speech.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Parihaka View Post
                  Whatever back room pundit came up with the semi-autonomous Kurdish region within Iraq is a genius, whether this outcome was deliberated or not.
                  Pari,

                  Well said. Liberation of the Iraqi Kurdistan and its subsequent prosperity is one of the least reported news coming out of the post -Saddam Iraq. Now one car bomb and you get over 50 front pages all over the world.

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                  • #10
                    They tried it for 30 years with no apparent tangible result, just more and more body bags. It is good to see both sides have agreed on trying a different path.
                    I wonder, if we give political autonomy to kurdish regions, will we have to spill much more blood in future to keep them? Cultural and political freedom is every citizens right but secession is not. Rhetoric of PKK (and their puppet party BDP) on autonomy is very disturbing IMO. And if KRG gets dragged into it things will be even more messy.

                    Than you would've turned him into a martyr, and martyrs make it even easier for people to rally behind their cause
                    They are not a budding insurgency, after 30 years they are already very well organized and nearly are at their possible maximum power. I think giving all citizens of Turkey the message that not terrorism but democracy would benefit their cause was more important. To do this we should have repealed anti democratic laws because we ourselves believe in freedom not because of PKK's blackmail.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by TTL View Post
                      I wonder, if we give political autonomy to kurdish regions, will we have to spill much more blood in future to keep them? Cultural and political freedom is every citizens right but secession is not. Rhetoric of PKK (and their puppet party BDP) on autonomy is very disturbing IMO. And if KRG gets dragged into it things will be even more messy.
                      That's why these negotiations are good, a change from the old ways.
                      In the realm of spirit, seek clarity; in the material world, seek utility.

                      Leibniz

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by TTL View Post
                        I wonder, if we give political autonomy to kurdish regions, will we have to spill much more blood in future to keep them? Cultural and political freedom is every citizens right but secession is not. Rhetoric of PKK (and their puppet party BDP) on autonomy is very disturbing IMO. And if KRG gets dragged into it things will be even more messy.
                        Depends what you want to accomplish with said political autonomy and how sincere both sides are.

                        However, imho, political freedoms based on nationality are only producing more tribal segregation within society.

                        If Kurds are sincere about their loyalty to Turkish state, they should seek their rights and obey their obligation within current system - join "Turkish" parties and seek cultural or whatever freedoms as well as economic prosperity through them. I am sure Turkish democracy has enough options to fit in.

                        They are not a budding insurgency, after 30 years they are already very well organized and nearly are at their possible maximum power. I think giving all citizens of Turkey the message that not terrorism but democracy would benefit their cause was more important. To do this we should have repealed anti democratic laws because we ourselves believe in freedom not because of PKK's blackmail.
                        What stops you to make it happen without looking like a ransom?
                        No such thing as a good tax - Churchill

                        To make mistakes is human. To blame someone else for your mistake, is strategic.

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                        • #13
                          What stops you to make it happen without looking like a ransom?
                          It is much more convenient for AKP. Really dimisihing PKK is not easy, but negotiating a ceasefire is. Convincing and educating our people to give minorities real rights is not easy, but acting as if suddenly Turkey has become a multicultural paradise is.

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                          • #14
                            Karaylan'dan terristlere telsizle ar - Hrriyet GNDEM

                            from day one the deal is broken.

                            they are not leaving the country...only a ceasefire...

                            you can not deal with man who have no honor...
                            Love all, trust a few, do wrong to none; be able for thine enemy rather in power than use; and keep thy friend under thine own life's key; be checked for silence, but never taxed for speech.

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                            • #15
                              Last week, imprisoned Kurdish leader Abdullah Öcalan called for a ceasefire, lending momentum to the Turkish-Kurdish peace process. But negotiating with Turkey will not satisfy the Kurds' burning need for political self-determination. An Essay by Bejan Matur

                              How do we go forward? How realistic is imprisoned Kurdish leader Abdullah Öcalan's dream of a ceasefire between Kurds and Turks, the withdrawal of all armed forces and a joint future in a new, democratic republic? If the rights of the Kurds and their status as equal citizens of this country are recognized, the problem is solved, isn't it?


                              I think it won't be that easy to make this dream come true. Indeed, the Kurdish question goes beyond cultural rights and civic equality. We Kurds entered the stage of history as a belated people. This conflict primarily has to do with the birth of a nation -- with the fundamental yearning to belong to a certain geographical region, where one was born, and the desire for political self-determination. One cannot understand the Kurdish question without understanding these aspirations.
                              The banned Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) arose from the longing to take possession of this region, and from the desire to determine its inherent nature and geography. Although it internationally defines itself according to a Marxist-socialist ideology, the PKK has always been an organization in search of its own roots. Thus, political self-determination is both a historic and an existential necessity.

                              A Radical Kurdish Awareness

                              The PKK has good reasons to negotiate with the Turkish state over the coming weeks and months. Violence has lost its purpose, and political action seems more sensible. But these pragmatic reasons cannot satisfy the deep need of the Kurdish people to achieve a concrete framework for the long-sought control of their region. This is also the case with other belated nations in contemporary Europe. Scotland and Catalonia only wanted to secede from their superordinate government federations after these states took their place under the larger umbrella of the European Union.

                              If we assume that the Kurds actually wanted to join forces with other peoples of the Middle East to form a democratic union of Anatolia-Mesopotamia with open borders, as Öcalan apparently envisions, could the Turks accept this?

                              Today, even assimilated Kurds show a radical Kurdish awareness. And it is precisely this heightened self-confidence that is the actual problem for the Turks. After all, these days hardly any of them still has objections to the Kurds speaking their own language and enjoying equal rights.

                              But it is another story altogether when it comes to controlling a region. The majority of Turks still strictly reject the Kurdish demand for a special status.

                              Unequal Footing

                              That's why I don't think that we can talk about genuine negotiations between the Turkish state and the Kurdish PKK: There is no framework for negotiations, no direct counterparts and no guarantor powers. It appears that after fighting its largest minority for 30 years, the Turkish state still has problems perceiving the Kurdish people as an independent subject. As a result, the government repeatedly strives to make progress by sidestepping the main issues.
                              There is no other explanation for why they pursue the negotiations via the media and the Kurdish Peace and Democracy Party (BDP), which is represented in the national parliament in Ankara. The BDP cannot negotiate on an equal footing and is only the bearer of messages from the Turkish side.

                              During the current phase, the negotiations on the Kurdish question require, as with all conflicts, a third, mediating force. Without this, there can be no fundamental solution. It is therefore time to remember the close ties between Turkey and Europe. This friendship could now be tested during the negotiating process with the Kurds.

                              Kurdish poet and author Bejan Matur, 44, has received numerous awards in Turkey for her work. She lives in Istanbul .
                              This kind of thinking, if encouraged by the appeasement mentality of AKP can lead to disaster for us.

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