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    Unsocialized Medicine
    A landmark ruling exposes Canada's health-care inequity.

    Monday, June 13, 2005 12:01 a.m. EDT

    Let's hope Hillary Clinton and Ted Kennedy were sitting down when they heard the news of the latest bombshell Supreme Court ruling. From the Supreme Court of Canada, that is. That high court issued an opinion last Thursday saying, in effect, that Canada's vaunted public health-care system produces intolerable inequality.

    Call it the hip that changed health-care history. When George Zeliotis of Quebec was told in 1997 that he would have to wait a year for a replacement for his painful, arthritic hip, he did what every Canadian who's been put on a waiting list does: He got mad. He got even madder when he learned it was against the law to pay for a replacement privately. But instead of heading south to a hospital in Boston or Cleveland, as many Canadians already do, he teamed up to file a lawsuit with Jacques Chaoulli, a Montreal doctor. The duo lost in two provincial courts before their win last week.

    The court's decision strikes down a Quebec law banning private medical insurance and is bound to upend similar laws in other provinces. Canada is the only nation other than Cuba and North Korea that bans private health insurance, according to Sally Pipes, head of the Pacific Research Institute in San Francisco and author of a recent book on Canada's health-care system.

    "Access to a waiting list is not access to health care," wrote Chief Justice Beverly McLachlin for the 4-3 Court last week. Canadians wait an average of 17.9 weeks for surgery and other therapeutic treatments, according the Vancouver-based Fraser Institute. The waits would be even longer if Canadians didn't have access to the U.S. as a medical-care safety valve. Or, in the case of fortunate elites such as Prime Minister Paul Martin, if they didn't have access to a small private market in some non-core medical services. Mr. Martin's use of a private clinic for his annual checkup set off a political firestorm last year.

    The ruling stops short of declaring the national health-care system unconstitutional; only three of the seven judges wanted to go all the way.
    But it does say in effect: Deliver better care or permit the development of a private system. "The prohibition on obtaining private health insurance might be constitutional in circumstances where health-care services are reasonable as to both quality and timeliness," the ruling reads, but it "is not constitutional where the public system fails to deliver reasonable services." The Justices who sit on Canada's Supreme Court, by the way, aren't a bunch of Scalias of the North. This is the same court that last year unanimously declared gay marriage constitutional.

    The Canadian ruling ought to be an eye-opener for the U.S., where "single-payer," government-run health care is still a holy grail on the political left and even for some in business (such as the automakers). This month the California Senate passed a bill that would create a state-run system of single-payer universal health care. The Assembly is expected to follow suit. Someone should make sure the Canadian Supreme Court's ruling is on Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger's reading list before he makes a veto decision.

    The larger lesson here is that health care isn't immune from the laws of economics. Politicians can't wave a wand and provide equal coverage for all merely by declaring medical care to be a "right," in the word that is currently popular on the American left.

    There are only two ways to allocate any good or service: through prices, as is done in a market economy, or lines dictated by government, as in Canada's system. The socialist claim is that a single-payer system is more equal than one based on prices, but last week's court decision reveals that as an illusion. Or, to put it another way, Canadian health care is equal only in its shared scarcity.

    When asked whether he was worried about being known as the man who helped bring down his country's universal health-care system, Mr. Zeliotis told the Toronto Star, "No way. I'm the guy saving it." If the Canadian ruling can open American eyes to the limitations of government-run health care, Mr. Zeliotis's hip just might end up saving the U.S. system too.

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    The reality is that we always had a two tier health care system. It's called the US. Those who don't want to wait and can afford it, go to the US to get it.

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    • #3
      I especially like the part that identifies Canada as one of only three nations on earth that specifically prohibits privately funded healthcare.

      The other two?

      North Korea and Cuba.

      That give you a warm fuzzy sir?
      Last edited by Bill; 16 Jun 05,, 18:47.

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      • #4
        Actually, that's not quite true. Privately funded health care is legal as long as it is a supplement and not a replacement for the public health care. The doctor must be paid by the public health care system for the surgery he's to perform but he can use privately paid facilities to do the surgery.

        I was in the military so my choices were quite limited in any regard.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by mtnbiker
          When asked whether he was worried about being known as the man who helped bring down his country's universal health-care system, Mr. Zeliotis told the Toronto Star, "No way. I'm the guy saving it." If the Canadian ruling can open American eyes to the limitations of government-run health care, Mr. Zeliotis's hip just might end up saving the U.S. system too.
          I doubt that the Canadian ruling will end up saving the US healthcare system. Like the article says, US healthcare is rationed based on price, but only up to a degree. Insurance company payouts for operations are not governed by a market system. It is also interesting that insurance companies are much less efficient than medicare for delivering healthcare. If the US chose socialized healthcare, I doubt that a private healthcare system would be outlawed.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by barrowaj
            If the US chose socialized healthcare, I doubt that a private healthcare system would be outlawed.
            It was in Hillery's plan, and included a sizeable fine.
            No man is free until all men are free - John Hossack
            I agree completely with this Administration’s goal of a regime change in Iraq-John Kerry
            even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act-John Kerry
            He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry

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            • #7
              I applaud George Zeliotis, when you have to wait 6 months for hernia surgery you know something is wrong. Privatized healthcare alongside social healthcare will work.

              Private care is just too bogged down, and when you have people willing to pay the money to private doctors thats less the govt has to pay the socially funded doctors. They get paid the same amount reguardless, the only difference is who is acctually footing the bill.
              Facts to a liberal is like Kryptonite to Superman.

              -- Larry Elder

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              • #8
                What did everyone expect? Canada has a population density that mirrors states like Montana. When you have people crowing city hopsitals, MRI clinics, and doctor's offices, you will suddenly have serious problems. It doesn't make any financial sense to operate more MRIs than what is necessary, but because of cut backs from the Liberal Government in 1994, things got backed up. As noted, the jump in spending didn't "cure" the health problems like the Liberals said it would. It just further baffled experts as to why they still have problems. There is no way to operate more equipment and personelle if the economics don't support it. Sure, Canadian provinces could operate dozens more MRI clinics, but the average joe doesn't want a provincial tax rate of 87%......

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                • #9
                  they implemented what was basically Hillary's health care plan in Tennessee and it practically destroyed the state(finances/budgets). It got to the point where something like a third of the state budget was going to pay for health care. People were actually getting prescriptions for aspirin and the state was paying for it.

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