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    Looks like Beppe Grillo, a comedian, has gained alot. Burlesque-oni better than expected. No majority in the Senate... Second election anyone?

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    Originally posted by snapper View Post
    Looks like Beppe Grillo, a comedian, has gained alot. Burlesque-oni better than expected. No majority in the Senate... Second election anyone?
    Btw they had a breakdown of how it works in Italy ergo if your party comes in first you get a majority in the house. Ergo the party (not coalition) so Grillo has a shot of having majority in the house. Senate is region by region with majority in each region going to the top party.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italia...election,_2013

    The funny party is that they were "polling" 10-15% and 3rd or 4th and were written off.

    And the program is to fire bureaucrats and exit the euro. Best program ever.
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    Originally from Sochi, Russia.

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    • #3
      Shocker in Italy: A comedian-cum-politician wins twice as many seats as the 'Brussels candidate'

      So we now have a pretty good idea of the election results in Italy. And there are two victims: eurozone stability and Mario Monti.

      The winner: comedian-cum-politician Beppe Grillo.

      We knew from earlier today that there would be a hung Senate, meaning massive challenges ahead in forming a functioning government.

      But what about the Lower House - Camera dei Deputati? Well, counting is almost completed so these projections of how seats will be allocated (courtesy of Rai) will most likely be very close to the final results. Bersani's centre-left coalition managed to secure a majority. The gap between Bersani's centre-left coalition and Berlusconi's centre-right coalition is around 0.4%, so the huge difference in seats is due to Italy's electoral system (which gives the coalition or party with the most votes an automatic majority of almost 54%).

      Open Europe blog: Shocker in Italy: A comedian-cum-politician wins twice as many seats as the 'Brussels candidate'

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      • #4
        Bah I guess coolitions overtake in majority on total vote. Oh well.
        my guess is that if there is a split between house/senate and its non-functional the next elections grillo should do much better.
        Originally from Sochi, Russia.

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        • #5
          In chimes the former Maoist President of Commissariat Mr Barroso

          http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21598206

          Yes we must reject 'populism'. Well Mr Monti, the Brussels - Berlin candidate got less than 10% of the vote so quite a lot of 'populism' to ignore here. I wonder what the difference between 'democracy' and 'populism' is for M. Barroso? He claimed that the appointment of Monti was 'democratic' when no member of the public voted for him. Now when around 10% of the public DO vote for his man it's 'populist'. Of course the truth is that all 'populism' that must be rejected is democracy that doesn't return an answer he likes - alas it threatens his job!

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          • #6
            The Grillo blog is here: Bersani, morto che parla- Blog di Beppe Grillo

            From there (translated) we have:

            "Bersani is a political stalker. He's been pestering the Five-Star Movement for days with indecent proposals, instead of resigning as everyone else would do in his situation."

            "Over the past twenty years, [Bersani's] Democratic Party was in government for ten years, and over the past year-and-a-half it even took part in the grand coalition government with [Berlusconi's] PdL party, backing any sort of junk proposed by Rigor Montis [Grillo's nickname for Mario Monti]."

            "The Five-Star Movement won't give any confidence vote to the Democratic Party or others. It will support in parliament only the laws that mirror its programme - whoever proposes them."

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            • #7
              Grillo on Mario Monti; "he is a bankruptcy trustee on behalf of the banks". Ouch.

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