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Tarek Morgen
03 Mar 12,, 09:59
Welcome to the newest addition to WAB! A complete new sub-fourm dedicated to all those What-if scenarios and discussion that seem to pop up every few minutes. We will need to move and shuffle some threads around, but you are free to start right away. But please keep in mind that this is not a complete free for all. For example talking about how the ACW would have turned out with the South winning at Gettysburg is fine, but not what effect modern tanks would have had on Alexander's campaigns.

bigross86
03 Mar 12,, 11:00
So does that mean the MEU in Rome is out?

Tarek Morgen
03 Mar 12,, 11:12
Well there will be some exceptions for the "classics". Romans vs Monguls, Knights vs Samurais and so on might not have been very..likely scenarios but are still part of WAB. The crazier your idea is, the better you have to be at selling it. We'll see how it goes and adjust the rules/abuse of our power accordingly.

Tarek Morgen
03 Mar 12,, 11:13
Also, if you find threads that should be moved here, feel free to post a link here.

kato
04 Mar 12,, 04:14
The crazier your idea is, the better you have to be at selling it.
I'm running a scenario on another forum with a heavy military focus that would basically violate the "time-shift" restriction placed above. It's about shifting a modern country back to WW1. Entirely. Total timeline currently currently encompasses 65,000 words - in short descriptions. It'd be interesting to overhaul some parts of it based on feedback from WAB. Crazy enough to disqualify?

Parihaka
04 Mar 12,, 04:54
Weeeellll, my daughter did ask me who would win, Gandalf vs Dumbledore. Any takers?

S2
04 Mar 12,, 06:13
"Weeeellll, my daughter did ask me who would win, Gandalf vs Dumbledore. Any takers?"

And your answer, sir?:pop:

I know mine but...you first.

snapper
04 Mar 12,, 06:18
Gandalf hands down. He was a minor deity (a Maiar) origionaly called Olorin.

Tarek Morgen
04 Mar 12,, 06:27
Weeeellll, my daughter did ask me who would win, Gandalf vs Dumbledore. Any takers?

If you did not answer Gandalf in a heartbeat, you are raising your kid wrong.

Parihaka
04 Mar 12,, 06:28
"Weeeellll, my daughter did ask me who would win, Gandalf vs Dumbledore. Any takers?"

And your answer, sir?:pop:

I know mine but...you first.

Gandalf. Irrespective of quality of magical capabilities, he had been around a lot longer and had a damn site more combat experience against a lot tougher foes than Dumbledore. She didn't like the answer though. "but daddy, Dumbledore had style and a Phoenix" Ah well....

Parihaka
04 Mar 12,, 06:30
Hmmm, it seems cynical adult males are all on the same page... Sorry, and you snapper

snapper
04 Mar 12,, 06:30
Does Aragorn beat Harry Potter?

Tarek Morgen
04 Mar 12,, 06:42
On a serious note, the staff will to keep discussions with-in..let's say sane and somewhat adult limits. We are worried quite a bit about what kind of attention this place might draw (Most will remember the X vs Y, no nukes/allies thread of ages past). Yet we do realize that some of our greatest discussions started with a “What if....”

Should these guidelines still sound a bit unclear to you...well that is because they are. We are simply not completely sure how this will turn out and thus simply plan on enforcing/making up the rules as we go along.

Regarding Parihaka's comment...I myself consider teaching your kids the superiority of Tolkien's work over Harry Potter as a very serious matter. Letting your kids experiment with HP might lead them to believe that it is even acceptable to read Twilight...and that is just wrong. Sick and wrong.

snapper
04 Mar 12,, 07:07
100% agree to that. Tolkien was a scholar, Rowling is an author.

bigross86
04 Mar 12,, 10:40
This will come as blasphemy but I didn't enjoy LOTR that much. I had guard duty on a remote base for a week, and I took the full, massive, three books in one and read the whole damn thing.

It sucked.

It was long, drawn out, excessive rambling on where no detail at all was needed, and a thoroughly far-from-enjoyable experience. Not what I'm looking for in a book. The movies were even worse by hardly following the books, but most movies are worse than the book.

And then we get to HP. The first book came out when I was in 5th grade and was geared towards kids, something LOTS most definitely wasn't. Books 2 and 3 were okay but getting repetitive. Book 4 had some interesting parts but was mostly boring, and books 5 and 6 just plain sucked. Book 7 was by far the worst of the lot, except for the last 100 pages where there finally was a grand melee, but even that lacked the luster and action of a really good battle sequence.

Not that I'm not a fan of the fantasy novels. Just the opposite, I read plenty of fantasy. One of my favorite fantasy series' was the Belgariad and the Mallorean by David Eddings. Belgarath, the main sorcerer from those two series' was bloody awesome. He was a drunk, a thief, loose with women and proprieties in general, and was 7,000 years old and the most powerful man alive.

In the final aggregation, they both sucked. Gandalf would have kicked Dumbledore's ass because he wasn't a pussy, but Belgarath would have kicked both their asses

bigross86
04 Mar 12,, 10:40
This will come as blasphemy but I didn't enjoy LOTR that much. I had guard duty on a remote base for a week, and I took the full, massive, three books in one and read the whole damn thing.

It sucked.

It was long, drawn out, excessive rambling on where no detail at all was needed, and a thoroughly far-from-enjoyable experience. Not what I'm looking for in a book. The movies were even worse by hardly following the books, but most movies are worse than the book.

And then we get to HP. The first book came out when I was in 5th grade and was geared towards kids, something LOTS most definitely wasn't. Books 2 and 3 were okay but getting repetitive. Book 4 had some interesting parts but was mostly boring, and books 5 and 6 just plain sucked. Book 7 was by far the worst of the lot, except for the last 100 pages where there finally was a grand melee, but even that lacked the luster and action of a really good battle sequence.

Not that I'm not a fan of the fantasy novels. Just the opposite, I read plenty of fantasy. One of my favorite fantasy series' was the Belgariad and the Mallorean by David Eddings. Belgarath, the main sorcerer from those two series' was bloody awesome. He was a drunk, a thief, loose with women and proprieties in general, and was 7,000 years old and the most powerful man alive.

In the final aggregation, they both sucked. Gandalf would have kicked Dumbledore's ass because he wasn't a pussy, but Belgarath would have kicked both their asses

snapper
04 Mar 12,, 11:51
Discworld for you! You can be my 'luggage'. You have NOT read Tolkien until you read the Silmarillion. He wrote LOTR only because The Hobbit was a commercial success (a la HP aimed at kids) and the publishers wanted "more stories about hobbits". The greater conception is akin to Asimovs Foundation series but vaster.

bigross86
04 Mar 12,, 12:00
I read the Silmarillion, as well as the Hobbit. I'm thorough, even when I don't enjoy something, I'll finish it. Same exact reason I read all three books in the "Girl who X'd the Y" series, which also all sucked.

Discworld is fun to read, but I didn't really get into it enough.

kato
04 Mar 12,, 12:16
Post #5 was a semi-serious question btw.

Tarek Morgen
04 Mar 12,, 12:28
Post #5 was a semi-serious question btw.

Sorry, I did not see that post at all. Without your second comment I would still be oblivious to it.


I'm running a scenario on another forum with a heavy military focus that would basically violate the "time-shift" restriction placed above. It's about shifting a modern country back to WW1. Entirely. Total timeline currently currently encompasses 65,000 words - in short descriptions. It'd be interesting to overhaul some parts of it based on feedback from WAB. Crazy enough to disqualify?

If I understand you right, this is a "Ring of fire" on larger (country) and smaller (time) scale? It is not nuttier than the MEU vs Rome discussion, though most likely more than what the folks had in mind when they suggested this forum. I would say let's try it and see what happens. Should we as a result see a large increase in "Astronauts vs Cavemen" debates, we can still intervene.

bigross86
04 Mar 12,, 13:14
Astronauts, duh...

Officer of Engineers
04 Mar 12,, 14:10
Astronauts, duh...HG Wells WAR OF THE WORLDS. The astronauts lost.

bigross86
04 Mar 12,, 14:31
They weren't astronauts, they were Martians. Worlds of difference apart

Officer of Engineers
04 Mar 12,, 14:44
Fine.

Planet of the Apes. The Astronauts lost.

Doktor
04 Mar 12,, 17:27
Since we don't have Bruce Lee around whoever has Chuck Norris will win.

Parihaka
04 Mar 12,, 18:46
Should we as a result see a large increase in "Astronauts vs Cavemen" debates, we can still intervene.

Caveman. The astronaut would begin by worrying about whether he was hurting his great great granddaddy and possibly negating his own existence... Then he'd try 'coming in peace' because you have to be a liberal pinko nowadays to work for NASA. The caveman would just whack him on the head with a stick and have him for dinner.
Note: the scenario changes if the astronaut is Chinese, as is likely in the future, though the outcome is the same.

S2
04 Mar 12,, 20:10
"It sucked."

You have a modest imagination and little taste for fine literature.

Gandalf 24/7. He was a serious practicioner of the dark arts.

bigross86
04 Mar 12,, 20:35
I beg to differ. I've read thousands of books already from most genres out there. I've read LOTR once and tried it again. Couldn't force myself through it the second time. Hell, I've beaten my way through most of War and Peace for the second time and still going strong, just couldn't do LOTR again

Albany Rifles
05 Mar 12,, 22:10
Weeeellll, my daughter did ask me who would win, Gandalf vs Dumbledore. Any takers?

Yoda would have kicked both of their asses!:biggrin:

Albany Rifles
05 Mar 12,, 22:12
Post #5 was a semi-serious question btw.

I have no doubt that it is...but I have no way to get my head around that!

Gun Grape
06 Mar 12,, 02:26
And then we get to HP. The first book came out when I was in 5th grade and was geared towards kids, something LOTS most definitely wasn't. Books 2 and 3 were okay but getting repetitive. Book 4 had some interesting parts but was mostly boring, and books 5 and 6 just plain sucked. Book 7 was by far the worst of the lot, except for the last 100 pages where there finally was a grand melee, but even that lacked the luster and action of a really good battle sequence.

HP came out way before then.

I've read the back of the bottle. But don't see any of the stuff you guys are talking about.

Albany Rifles
06 Mar 12,, 04:04
HP came out way before then.

I've read the back of the bottle. But don't see any of the stuff you guys are talking about.

I have a friend who travels to the UK twice a year....he brings me back 2 bottles each time.


I want to have his children.

Ouroboros
18 Dec 16,, 07:37
Lol rifle

N i am going to die if cant the thread privilege, the what if discussions great

Gun Grape
18 Dec 16,, 18:32
Christmas comes early. HDC twice in one day!!!!!!!

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