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Officer of Engineers
29 Nov 11,, 05:11
This forum has tried to drag me back ... but meeting with my RSM this last week, I realized that I am now obsololete. I have nothing more to give you lads. I've always to start from a position of facts. My facts are now wrong. As such, there's no basis of facts that I can eval from.

This is not sad. It was expected. CDF and WAB was expected to surpassed me ... and both have.

Aside from simple stuff, such as scotch tasting, ... and even that, I did enjoy both WAB and CDF ... but time has surpassed me.

I will read you to keep learning stuff ... but my teaching days are now over.

W

vsdoc
29 Nov 11,, 05:41
Please no! :(

In a lot of ways, WAB for me is you, and the views we have shared.

citanon
29 Nov 11,, 05:44
Col,

Facts may go out of date but wisdom and experience do not. For me, you have been, and continue to be, a respected source of both.

paintgun
29 Nov 11,, 05:48
you sir obsolete? what kind of BS is that :confu:
you will find ways to renew yourself

please keep posting, i still learn from you

Dreadnought
29 Nov 11,, 06:05
Colonel,
I for one have been here for some time and have always found your readings both interesting and insightful. You have much experience to teach and to pass on. I doubt you have even scratched the surface yet of that experience. I wish that you would not leave the WAB, I can understand your own reasoning but if you view it from our standpoint it is hardly understandable.

I have enjoyed our conversations greatly. If you decide to go, I wish you the best, but I often feel there is more for you to share both from Professional experience and well as Personal experience.

I would wish maybe a leave of absense if you feel so inclined, that reassures us that we have not lost your value nor insight.

Sir, I wish you the best in whatever your endevores may be.

Would it help if we all decided to become Scotch tasters?:biggrin:

USSWisconsin
29 Nov 11,, 06:16
Please stay on as a friend then, your presence here is important to many of us, even if you aren't teaching, and I think it is nonsense that you have nothing to teach. I look forward to every post you give us, you have said it yourself about others who wanted to leave - the words you have given us are precious and have great meaning to us. Please don't take that away.

BD1
29 Nov 11,, 06:16
Sir, you, for most of us here, are the most valuable member here. you set the standard and everybody tries to live up to it.
please reconsider

observer7
29 Nov 11,, 06:17
Sir, its been an honour learning from you for over a decade now. From the days at CMF/TMF which then moved to CDF and Taiwanmilitary.org and then finally to WAB. WAB has changed in many ways since I first came here but you have always been a steady rock in a sea of change.

The facts on the ground today may change due to time and the implementation of new platforms and doctrine but just like Sun Tzu and many before, I believe your insight on many things still remain relevant. We still need to read the past so not to make the same mistakes tomorrow.

You have given so much to the community, its okay to just sit back enjoy the finer things WAB has to offer.

Blue
29 Nov 11,, 06:23
Col, We may be older(of course you are probably wayyyy older than me:tongue:) but we are not dinosaurs or out of date.

You have much to offer still yet, and I would prefer that this non-com not have to give a commisioned officer the same get-your-gear-on-straight and "soldier up" talk that you would give dutifully to me if the situation was reversed.

I too have laid off a bit from the WAB, but plan not to retire just yet.

I hope that you do not either. Now have a drink and get back on that horse.;)

USSWisconsin
29 Nov 11,, 06:27
Wisdom and experience will never be obsolete, and a few recent facts are no substitute for these two timeless qualities you bring to the WAB.

Double Edge
29 Nov 11,, 07:17
I've always to start from a position of facts. My facts are now wrong. As such, there's no basis of facts that I can eval from.

Where ?

YellowFever
29 Nov 11,, 08:05
This forum has tried to drag me back ... but meeting with my RSM this last week, I realized that I am now obsololete. I have nothing more to give you lads. I've always to start from a position of facts. My facts are now wrong. As such, there's no basis of facts that I can eval from.

This is not sad. It was expected. CDF and WAB was expected to surpassed me ... and both have.

Aside from simple stuff, such as scotch tasting, ... and even that, I did enjoy both WAB and CDF ... but time has surpassed me.

I will read you to keep learning stuff ... but my teaching days are now over.

W

It would be pretty shitty of us to say goodbye to you just because your teaching days are over.

If you don't like this place anymore and want to leave, that's fine and I wish you all the best.

But if you feel you have to leave because we can't learn from you anymore, well, that's B.S..

We never thought of you only as a teacher

We thought of you as a friend that teaches.

C'mon, Colonel, you can't leave us.

lemontree
29 Nov 11,, 09:34
Sir, how can you leave us....??

bigross86
29 Nov 11,, 09:38
There are certain facts and truths that will always remain true and self evident and one of them is the fact that you have been far more than a teacher and mentor to all of us here, especially myself. You have always been a bastion of cold hard logic and common sense, and despite everything else that may or may not have changed in the world today, we still need you around to make sure that we've got our heads screwed on tight.

Or to put it simply: Please don't go

Bigfella
29 Nov 11,, 09:46
Sir,

As someone who has had my disagreements with you on occasion I would argue that you still have contributions to make here. In your areas of specialist knowledge you still have things to say & lessons to teach. If, however, you decide for your own reasons that you can no longer play that role I would ask that you at least continue to stay with us as a friend. Those who retire from teaching do not cease to contribute, even if that takes a different form. I will always think of you as a part of the DNA of WAB. I would rather you maintained some sort of public profile, even if a lower one, rather than becoming some sort of 'ghost in the machine'. Clearly others here feel the same.

Deltacamelately
29 Nov 11,, 09:52
This forum has tried to drag me back ... but meeting with my RSM this last week, I realized that I am now obsololete. I have nothing more to give you lads. I've always to start from a position of facts. My facts are now wrong. As such, there's no basis of facts that I can eval from.

This is not sad. It was expected. CDF and WAB was expected to surpassed me ... and both have.

Aside from simple stuff, such as scotch tasting, ... and even that, I did enjoy both WAB and CDF ... but time has surpassed me.

I will read you to keep learning stuff ... but my teaching days are now over.

W
Sir,

May I say, horse puckey.
Technologies may keep changing but the basics of Soldiering will never change. To that, you have yet not given out more than 25% to this forum. What's more, for professionals like us from Non-NATO militaries, many things that you take up for granted are yet not even available. You may try to convince, but fortunately I am not.

Take this as a request from the innermost part of me, but do stay on.

regards,

Doktor
29 Nov 11,, 09:54
Can't say it is a surprise, but your presence here is something we took for granted. The place will definitely be different and poorer for great insights.

Have mercy on the rest of WABbers, and post something in a while, otherwise Yello will post pics of SWSNBN unrestrained.

Wish you a lot of peaceful, happy, joyful days.

tankie
29 Nov 11,, 13:14
Obsolete my arse .

An engineer throwing in the towel , pffft you would NEVER had made a Tankster , we dont give in , Clerks and pen pushers give in , not Colonels / leaders / cept for our General who surrendered to the Japanese WW2 , cant bring myself to speak the shits name . :bang:

Obsolete my arse , maybe older , but with age brings wisdom , of which you have gallons :wors:

Sir joking apart (1st para) , knowing of your problems in health issues I understand why , however nothing is stopping you looking in and having a giggle or 3 at yella's futile antics , and maybe a tad of correction .Thank you from my heart for the education you have bestowed on us lesser mortals

May your Gods go with you , stay safe , drink heartily , and rape n pillage the village's best maidens ,BUT dont let er indoors catch ya ;)

SALUTE

Aussiegunner
29 Nov 11,, 13:51
OOE, I never crossed paths with you much and when I did always thought you were a grumpy old bastard anyway, but you clearly have a great deal of knowledge to share. Just because your military knowledge is not current does not mean it is relevant. Military history is as much of a focus on this site as is anything else and you still have on the ground knowledge of your era that people here want to tap in to. Also because of you I know that the 22/250 is the best varmint round out there, timeless information that I might use if I ever get good enough to hit a small target at long range. Don't curl up in a ball and give up because you are feeling a bit of relevance deprivation syndrome, just adapt what you contribute to the stuff that is still useful.

S2
29 Nov 11,, 15:51
Colonel,

Yeah. This doesn't work for me. You're in...as much or as little as suits you from time to time. The mods can kick you out but you can't retire. Just like the mafia, you're a "made" man. Getting in is easy but, once in, there's no going back short of death.

See ya' around, sir.

Captain Worley
29 Nov 11,, 17:51
Just a long time lurker, but FWIW, I've always enjoyed your inputs. Made me thin critically about certain things. I'll miss your posts.

What's CDF?

tankie
29 Nov 11,, 18:02
Just a long time lurker, but FWIW, I've always enjoyed your inputs. Made me thin critically about certain things. I'll miss your posts.

What's CDF?

Could be compact disc fragmenter , or coldplay defy fans ,even , Chinese deny flyingsaucers :whome: ,,

orrrr Canadian Defence Force ,

or ya can pick one ov yer own , waddya think Cpt ,:biggrin:

By the way , welcome to WAB

Captain Worley
29 Nov 11,, 18:11
Could be compact disc fragmenter , or coldplay defy fans ,Chinese defy flyingsaucers ,, orrrr Canadian Defence Force ????????? or pick one ov yer own , waddy think Cpt ,:biggrin:

Gotcha...not using my brains today.


By the way , welcome to WAB

Thanks. Probably go back to lurk mode. Not much to contribute, but I enjoy watching y'all go round and round.

tankie
29 Nov 11,, 18:15
Gotcha...not using my brains today.



Thanks. Probably go back to lurk mode. Not much to contribute, but I enjoy watching y'all go round and round.

Noooooooooo no , as S2 says , now yer in , yer in ,unless adim decides yer out , c,mon tell WAB about yourself and contribute ,,its like alcohol this place ,,ADDICTIVE :mocan:;)

Mihais
29 Nov 11,, 18:59
I regret not being a General to order the Colonel to get back.

OOE Sir,I wish you good health and I hope you won't leave us for good.We'll be poorer men and I hope we don't harm your peace of mind so much.:redface:
Technicalities change,but warriors are eternal.It's the spirit,not the software and it's sweat and blood, not gadgetry.

Tarek Morgen
29 Nov 11,, 19:55
Nobody here wants you to leave, and we are not above using blackmail and other sinister method to make sure that we won't lose you, Colonel.

TopHatter
29 Nov 11,, 20:38
Colonel, I fail to see where you are obsolete. Therefore your goodbye has regretfully been denied.

ArmchairGeneral
29 Nov 11,, 21:08
Just a long time lurker, but FWIW, I've always enjoyed your inputs. Made me thin critically about certain things. I'll miss your posts.

What's CDF?

China Defense Forum.

Repatriated Canuck
29 Nov 11,, 21:30
Did I miss something again? I don't want you to go either Sir.

Albany Rifles
29 Nov 11,, 21:59
Colonel,

Some things which matter to a Queen's officer are timeless...leadership,mentoring, guiding younger members on what
is right. Theae never grow obsolete and, therefore, neither can you. Kick back some more and enjoy what you helped build...but never for one minute think you are done.

Participate where you can and be sure you are always welcome to straighten out this brash not-so-young Infantryman.

So long as there is a WAB, there will be an Officer of Engineers.

If I may be so brash....CHIMO!

ambidex
29 Nov 11,, 22:01
That will be a big big disappointment for OoE fans like me.

Sir, you are an education for us and a great institution where people can learn heaps with one click of button every post of yours, please stay.

dave lukins
29 Nov 11,, 22:34
This forum has tried to drag me back ... but meeting with my RSM this last week, I realized that I am now obsolete. I have nothing more to give you lads. I've always to start from a position of facts. My facts are now wrong. As such, there's no basis of facts that I can eval from.

This is not sad. It was expected. CDF and WAB was expected to surpassed me ... and both have.

Aside from simple stuff, such as scotch tasting, ... and even that, I did enjoy both WAB and CDF ... but time has surpassed me.

I will read you to keep learning stuff ... but my teaching days are now over.

W

In all my life I've never heard such a load of nonsense. :eek: (I was going to say bollox but I have too much respect for the WAB Colonel)... Obsolete!!! Where the hell did that come from? Under NO circumstances desert your post until properly relieved by permission of WABbits, and that Order will be long in coming.

dave lukins
29 Nov 11,, 22:36
colonel, i fail to see where you are obsolete. Therefore your goodbye has regretfully been denied.

number 1

DOR
30 Nov 11,, 03:13
LCol Yu,

I can't say I agree with your reasoning, judgment, facts or opinion in this matter, but I respect anyone who feels he cannot continue to perform to his own expectations, and therefore retires at the top of his game.

Peace.

Chunder
30 Nov 11,, 04:06
This forum has tried to drag me back ... but meeting with my RSM this last week, I realized that I am now obsololete. I have nothing more to give you lads. I've always to start from a position of facts. My facts are now wrong. As such, there's no basis of facts that I can eval from.

This is not sad. It was expected. CDF and WAB was expected to surpassed me ... and both have.

Aside from simple stuff, such as scotch tasting, ... and even that, I did enjoy both WAB and CDF ... but time has surpassed me.

I will read you to keep learning stuff ... but my teaching days are now over.

W

You sound like my Grandfather did at 75.

He's now 95 and still got more brains than the rest of the family put together.

Still sought after for advice on a regular basis.

Pretty much like you really I suppose.

Deltacamelately
30 Nov 11,, 10:34
Sir,

Report back to the post.
Else, I'll be forced to pillage Wabbitville with 10 terabytes of SWSNBN pictures.......


All nude.

Doktor
30 Nov 11,, 11:03
Sir,

Report back to the post.
Else, I'll be forced to pillage Wabbitville with 10 terabytes of SWSNBN pictures.......


All nude.

Just wish, that is another example of his strategical thinking, you'd need years to do that.


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astralis
30 Nov 11,, 15:23
col yu,

observer said it best:


Sir, its been an honour learning from you for over a decade now. From the days at CMF/TMF which then moved to CDF and Taiwanmilitary.org and then finally to WAB. WAB has changed in many ways since I first came here but you have always been a steady rock in a sea of change.

followed you around for the last 10 years-- learned a hell of a lot.

by now, whether you like it or not, WAB is your home: you'll always be welcome here, complete with a comfy chair in the corner, fine cigars, and a single malt.

snapper
30 Nov 11,, 15:24
Sad day. Thankyou for sharing you wisdom and experience with us and me.

Gun Grape
01 Dec 11,, 04:51
Sir

I learned long ago that decisions are made that you may not like but cannot change. This is one of them.

I thank you for sharing your knowledge and wisdom with us. You have been one of the bedrocks of the WAB for the years I have been on the board, and one of the reasons I hang around. You will be missed.

Hopefully you will drop in every once in a while to keep us straight.

I wish you Fair Winds and Following Seas.


WAB Present Arms

dave lukins
01 Dec 11,, 15:05
Sir

I learned long ago that decisions are made that you may not like but cannot change. This is one of them.

I thank you for sharing your knowledge and wisdom with us. You have been one of the bedrocks of the WAB for the years I have been on the board, and one of the reasons I hang around. You will be missed.

Hopefully you will drop in every once in a while to keep us straight.

I wish you Fair Winds and Following Seas.


WAB Present Arms

Nice post from the Resident Curmudgeon. Keep the powder dry Colonel and be sure to drop in every now and then to keep the rapscallions in line :)

furkensturker
14 Dec 11,, 13:26
Sir,
It is truly a sad time. I don't believe for a second that you have nothing more to offer.
Experience and wisdom are two things that can not be given to someone, they are learnt as you travel on life's journey and passed on to others as they travel on theirs.

Sir, I wish you well and know that if and when you decide to return to WAB, you will be welcome with open arms.


Freddie

USSWisconsin
14 Dec 11,, 15:23
We miss you Sir, the WAB needs you - but I understand and wish you well in your other pursuits - all the best