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Repatriated Canuck
26 May 05,, 18:03
I've gone through a lot of threads and it seems so many people really hate the plastic composites on rifles today. I mean they are quite durable and lighter which means everything if you've already got a lot of weight to carry in your rucksack.
When I went to basic in 98 (just reserves going reg force CDN infantry when I get home from my travells) I saw my corporal stomp on the charging handle of my C-7 with the butt on the ground to clear a stoppage. It didn't break and I mean he stomped the **** out of it. I did however, get in **** as he went around a hut and told me to stay put but I wanted to see what he was doing.

I saw those things put through **** and abuse and still work just fine. That being said I don't know anything about how durable the collapsible stock is. It can't be too bad though. It's not likle you'd use it to beat a concrete wall now would you. Even a wooden stock isn't going to opne a reinforced door before someone mentions it. That's what explosives are for... :biggrin:

Shek
26 May 05,, 18:16
I've gone through a lot of threads and it seems so many people really hate the plastic composites on rifles today. I mean they are quite durable and lighter which means everything if you've already got a lot of weight to carry in your rucksack.
When I went to basic in 98 (just reserves going reg force CDN infantry when I get home from my travells) I saw my corporal stomp on the charging handle of my C-7 with the butt on the ground to clear a stoppage. It didn't break and I mean he stomped the **** out of it. I did however, get in **** as he went around a hut and told me to stay put but I wanted to see what he was doing.

I saw those things put through **** and abuse and still work just fine. That being said I don't know anything about how durable the collapsible stock is. It can't be too bad though. It's not likle you'd use it to beat a concrete wall now would you. Even a wooden stock isn't going to opne a reinforced door before someone mentions it. That's what explosives are for... :biggrin:

I liked the plastics in my M4 and made sure all my M14s had plastic instead of wood when we were issued them prior to Iraq.

sniperdude411
26 May 05,, 23:15
It's truly amazing how far plstics have gine these days...
I think some people just need to feel how tough plastics are; just take a CD and try to break it.
Very hard to do indeed. Like crushing an egg by putting pressureon the top and bottom.

davechng
12 Sep 05,, 22:07
SOme plastics especially those newer ones are tougher than the early days ! I still have a Steyr SSG sniper rifle and its plastic stock deftintly not in par with those new HK and SIG .

My AUG's plastic is not very strong, empty cartidge once got stuck on the ejection area, the bolt slam it and the hot brass eats into the plastic stock of the AUG! I was horrified :eek: ...

Plastic defeitnyl is here to stay ! I carry a plastic gun! " Glock 19! And I will depend my life on these plastic gun!

DaveC!

Repatriated Canuck
13 Sep 05,, 13:52
Are you a cop?

davechng
13 Sep 05,, 15:53
[NO, I am not a cop! but we live in Texas. COnceal carry is very common here . Thanks to President Bush ( than Governer Bush) which grant us COnceal carry permit!
:)
DaveC

Repatriated Canuck
13 Sep 05,, 16:52
Do you mean you can carry a hidden pistol? Are you allowed to walk around with rifles as well? May sound like a silly question but hey.....

davechng
13 Sep 05,, 17:14
good question!

1st question! YEs ! for the conceal carry permit! you have to carry your firearms conceal ( we are referring to pistols)! Only using it as a deterrance or equilizer when you have no option to run , fear of your life and have to defend yourself.

YEs and No on the rile part, you can technically carry rifle/shotgun without this restriction. BUT! I do not think it is wise to bring a HK-91 rifle in downtown Dallas. This rules usually is for rural areas where you see ranchers patrolling their properties to kill rattle snacks and Cayotes and other varmints! I have always see farmers in the back of their truck a 3030 rifle or a 12 gauge shotgun.

Cheers!

DaveC!

sniperdude411
13 Sep 05,, 17:44
Hey my dad drives me around my farm in the farm truck with my 12-gauge so I can get up close to crows; it's really fun. I wouldn't really want to carry that gun around downtown, though. I think you can't legally brandish (not carry) firearms unless you're defending yourself.

leib10
04 Oct 05,, 01:21
I like the plastic frame of my USP. It never gets worn down.

sniperdude411
04 Oct 05,, 02:03
You should see some plastics they use today in framing, expensive toys, models and such...
I held a hollow block of light plastic, the same kind they use in the xm8, and it was so light...
but I tried to bend/break it in a vise, but couldn't...
It's light, and VERY strong. Much better than wood. (just kinda generalizing here) It's just that many people have never really handled wooden rifles in a military situation; they think of synthetic as quite useless, beacuse they haven't handled the stuff in the military.

Hey, my 1000th post! I thought I would never make it to here, but I proved myself wrong! Hurray me!

leib10
04 Oct 05,, 05:29
Ya, hurray you.

Repatriated Canuck
04 Oct 05,, 14:17
good question!

1st question! YEs ! for the conceal carry permit! you have to carry your firearms conceal ( we are referring to pistols)! Only using it as a deterrance or equilizer when you have no option to run , fear of your life and have to defend yourself.

YEs and No on the rile part, you can technically carry rifle/shotgun without this restriction. BUT! I do not think it is wise to bring a HK-91 rifle in downtown Dallas. This rules usually is for rural areas where you see ranchers patrolling their properties to kill rattle snacks and Cayotes and other varmints! I have always see farmers in the back of their truck a 3030 rifle or a 12 gauge shotgun.

Cheers!

DaveC!


I want a concealed weapons license. Oooh what should I buy? Something sexy to impress all the girls!

leib10
04 Oct 05,, 15:55
This is sad: I'm a complete gun nut, and my mom hates them. I don't have a CHL, my mom (who is a District Attorney) does. :frown:

dalem
04 Oct 05,, 16:17
I want a concealed weapons license. Oooh what should I buy? Something sexy to impress all the girls!

In England? HAHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHA!

I was going to suggest an airgun, but I hear that aomeone there wants to ban those too.

-dale

Repatriated Canuck
04 Oct 05,, 17:07
No, no, I'm Canadian so I can get a gun when I go home. :)
No criminal record or anything so I just need to get a license and away we go!

sniperdude411
04 Oct 05,, 22:45
www.saveairsoft.org
Please help these guys keep their frigging airsoft guns from being illegal!
Anyway, I'd either get a Baby Eagle, or some kind of Sig Pro; or, if you can find one, a Wildey pistol.

Acer
07 Oct 05,, 13:40
I want a concealed weapons license. Oooh what should I buy? Something sexy to impress all the girls!
I think these are limited to only a few states in the US?

sniperdude411
07 Oct 05,, 17:36
Sadly I liove in a state that doesn't allow them.
Lioke my avatar, I don't belong in Illinois.

Acer
08 Oct 05,, 09:22
Sadly I liove in a state that doesn't allow them.
Lioke my avatar, I don't belong in Illinois.
run for office... lol

sniperdude411
10 Oct 05,, 03:57
run for office... lol
Lol that's not for me; when my friend becomes president, I'll be his sec. of defense.....

jame$thegreat
13 Oct 05,, 20:08
Does anyone Know the legality of an airsoft pistol/rifle in new york perticularly brooklyn? I'm thinking of getting a Co2 pistol or a tokyo marui spring pistol.

sniperdude411
14 Oct 05,, 02:16
Shoot it all ya want inside: that's what they're made for. You can shoot it outside, but make sure it's quiet, and that there aren't any cops around.
I would suggest you get a spring pistol if you want to shoot a lot, but don't get a crappy one.
Any that say "Ultra-grade" on them means that they're good. My S&W SW40F is by far the best gun I've gotten. The breech/barrel even goes back a bit and drops down when you pull the slide back!

jame$thegreat
14 Oct 05,, 23:32
Shoot it all ya want inside: that's what they're made for. You can shoot it outside, but make sure it's quiet, and that there aren't any cops around.
I would suggest you get a spring pistol if you want to shoot a lot, but don't get a crappy one.
Any that say "Ultra-grade" on them means that they're good. My S&W SW40F is by far the best gun I've gotten. The breech/barrel even goes back a bit and drops down when you pull the slide back!

By that do you mean its illegal to ship to NY and would it be legal to ship to NY via ebay???