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    Now why has the number of liver problems doubled , the govts answer was to open pubs and supermarkets 24 hours except Sundays where you have to get a lock in What they were trying to achieve was a European approach to drinking , all they achieved in the UK is binge drinking , I like a nippy sweetie as we know , but even that is being cut out


    * Booze To 'Kill 250,000 Over 20 Yrs


    Figures from the Office for National Statistics show there were 8,664 such deaths in the UK during 2009 - up from 6,884 in 2000.

    But three leading experts use an article in the Lancet to claim we are likely to see a further escalation in deaths because current government plans will not address the problem.

    Measures proposed by the Government include banning the sale of alcohol below cost price and increasing duty on high-strength beer.

    One of the three authors of the article and former president of the Royal College of Physicians, Professor Sir Ian Gilmore, said: "Looking at the evidence, price is a crucial driver.

    "We would call for a minimum unit price of 50p per unit.

    "That's what the chief medical officer suggested, that's been supported by the health select committee looking at alcohol.

    "I think all serious players in this believe that a unit price of about 50p really would save thousands of lives."

    At the height of his addiction, Gary Topley would drink 15 pints, 12 bottles of alcopop and 10 shots in a single night.

    He is now in recovery and runs a self-help group called the Free From Addiction Project.

    "The time I went out drinking was primarily on a Thursday," said the 32-year-old from Chesterfield.

    "It was because it was always buy-one-get-two free, so cost does come into it because I could get drunk very, very cheaply."

    The Government, who say they will be publishing a new alcohol strategy in the summer, maintain they are tough on tackling problem drinking.

    But those within the drinks industry say higher pricing will not work.

    Gavin Partington from the Wine and Spirit Trade Association said: "We know that the countries with the highest alcohol prices including some of the highest taxation on alcohol are also the countries that seem to have a problem with binge drinking.

    "The UK is one of those countries, (along with) Ireland and the Scandinavian countries, and so really there seems little correlation between the level of price and the problems with binge drinking."

    The article in the Lancet says liver disease has doubled in the UK since the mid-1980s.

    Professor Gilmore added: "The country that's made the most dramatic progress in reducing consumption and liver disease is France and they've got quite a tough regulatory framework.

    "For example, there's a complete ban on broadcast advertising of alcohol and there's a complete ban on sports sponsorship there.

    "The industry there has tended to concentrate more on improving quality rather than quantity and they don't seem to have the same 'pile it high and sell it cheap' philosophy which seems to pervade our supermarkets.

  • #2
    Where's this place with the great deal on Tuesday?
    Reddite igitur quae sunt Caesaris Caesari et quae sunt Dei Deo
    (Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's and unto God the things which are God's)

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    • #3
      Most boozers do a happy hour everyday m8

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      • #4
        Originally posted by tankie View Post
        Most boozers do a happy hour everyday m8
        I like the signs that say "Happy HOUR" 3pm - 7pm. Some hour;)

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        • #5
          Originally posted by dave lukins View Post
          I like the signs that say "Happy HOUR" 3pm - 7pm. Some hour;)
          Ahhh yes well , the reason behind that m8 is the pubs have to stagger the hour coz some peeps cant get there for 3 till 4 , 4 till 5 etc etc ;)

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          • #6
            Gavin Partington from the Wine and Spirit Trade Association said: "We know that the countries with the highest alcohol prices including some of the highest taxation on alcohol are also the countries that seem to have a problem with binge drinking.

            "The UK is one of those countries, (along with) Ireland and the Scandinavian countries, and so really there seems little correlation between the level of price and the problems with binge drinking."


            He has a point. Alcohol is very expensive in all the above, and it doesn't stop the binge culture. Young people are quite literally killing themselves on vodka, Jagerbombs, WKD and a plethora of other drinks. In Sweden the state owns off licences and couldn't be more involved in the distribution of alcohol, and there's still a massive problem with alcohol abuse, in addition to suicide.

            It's a huge issue, bringing ballooning treatment costs and likely many deaths. The primary issue is that people are drinking too much, regardless of price. The question must be why? Is it cultural or circumstantial, because it's certainly not an economic issue. We need more awareness and better education, especially in schools, about what alcohol does. Companies have for years traded on the entrenched nature of alcohol as showing it to be harmless. It's not, I'd rather a bong than booze if it was a question of living longer. But in terms of what a society chooses, and in the case of Northern Europe it's choosing to drink excessively, we need to look at ourselves, not the bottle.
            Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative.
            - John Stuart Mill.

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