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bigross86
19 Dec 09,, 10:27
I know that as a general rule it doesn't happen, but every so often I hear a cover song which is actually better than the original. To name a few:

Careless Whisper by Seether, originally by George Michael
I Am the Walrus By Jim Carey, originally by the Beatles
Mad World by Gary Jules, originally by Tears for Fears
I'm A Believer by EMF Feat Reeves and Mortimer, originally by the Monkees
Mahna Mahna by Bip Bippadotta and the Snowths, originally by Piero Umiliani.
I Fought the Law by The Clash, originally by Sonny Curtis and The Crickets
What a Wonderful World by Joey Ramone, originally by Louis Armstrong

I'm sure that I can think up a whole bunch more, these are just the few that come to mind at the moment. Got any others you'd like to add to the list?

Shek
19 Dec 09,, 14:26
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Andrey Egorov
19 Dec 09,, 16:29
Orgasmotron by Satyricon, originally by Motorhead
Whiplash by B*ttf**k, originally by Metallica
Sweatleaf by Ugly Kid Joe, originally by Black Sabbath
Screaming for Vengeance by Iced Earth, originally by Judas Priest

YellowFever
19 Dec 09,, 18:13
My favorite group and the Colonel's favorite chick joins forces! :)

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Gun Grape
19 Dec 09,, 19:57
In the Masters Class

You have Bob Dylans All Along the Watchtower as covered by Jimi Hendrix.

Even Dylan said Hendrix did the best version

All others pale in comparison


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dalem
20 Dec 09,, 06:17
I actually prefer Faith No More's "War Pigs" to Black Sabbath's.

-dale

S2
20 Dec 09,, 08:49
Both made a living off of covering Dylan. Usually better, IMV. Here's My Back Pages-

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bigross86
20 Dec 09,, 09:00
This generation is going to hell in a handbasket. I was listening to Come Together as done by Joe Cocker (another cover that's better than the original), and this kid I work with says to me "That's a cover of a Michael Jackson song!" I nearly wanted to cry. He had no inkling that it was originally a Beatles song.

Shek
02 Feb 11,, 04:02
What's your favorite cover song, one that is superior the original?

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Bigfella
02 Feb 11,, 04:22
Shek,

don't we already have a thread on this somewhere?.

Agree on your choice, however. Killer version.

S2
02 Feb 11,, 04:49
Baby, It's You-

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Interesting that this was written by Burt Bacharach and Luther Dixon. Originally recorded by the Shirelles and then the Beatles, I found this to be my favorite version.

House Of The Rising Sun-

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Mr. Tambourine Man-

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Nothing sounded cooler in the summer of 1965 than Mr. Tambourine Man coming out of the little tinny dashboard speaker of a car.

My Back Pages-

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Crossroads-

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S2
02 Feb 11,, 05:02
Young Man Blues (Mose Allison)-

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Think Mose would recognize the lyrics...if he could hear them. The music? It's another world.:cool:

S2
02 Feb 11,, 05:10
Like the Byrds (and to a much lesser extent, The Band) these guys made an absolute living out of doing covers of others work. Here they covered the Supremes #1 hit single You Keep Me Hanging On (Holland-Dozier-Holland) for their own huge hit.

I liked this better than the Supremes version and that's what matters-

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bigross86
02 Feb 11,, 09:09
I got a whole list, I'll post 'em tonight when I've got time to search for YouTube links

Albany Rifles
02 Feb 11,, 14:35
MacArthur Park...Donna Summers.;):biggrin:

bigross86
02 Feb 11,, 17:47
Hinder are not a cover band, but do some awesome covers, nonetheless:

Eddie Money - Take Me Home Tonight

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Hinder - Take Me Home Tonight

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Steppenwolf - Born To Be Wild

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Hinder - Born To Be Wild

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Masada
02 Feb 11,, 20:01
Metallica's cover of Tuesday's Gone is pretty amazing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PlKbYGGVPQ

Gun Grape
03 Feb 11,, 02:14
Blinded by the light (Springsteen)

Manfred Man's Earth Band

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Gun Grape
03 Feb 11,, 02:34
Jersey Girl (Tom Waits)

As covered by The Boss

(and one of the Gunnys favorite songs)

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Bigfella
03 Feb 11,, 08:07
Jersey Girl (Tom Waits)

As covered by The Boss

(and one of the Gunnys favorite songs)



Good taste Gunny. Great song, great performer.

Persey
04 Feb 11,, 03:07
Am I Evil by Diamond Head was covered by Metallica on the Kill 'Em All album.
The song was so adaptable to thrash that "The Big Four" (Slayer, Megadeth, Anthrax and Metallica) played it together.

Here's where they did the song together in Bulgaria...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C34MsVuxfOA&feature=related

Persey
04 Feb 11,, 03:20
'Crossroads'

Cream

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OLK_HSyy1U&feature=related

Clapton (see who joins Clapton on stage in video)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63bG2pFvfKQ&feature=related

Mayer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-a2IOKrQHY&feature=related

Gun Grape
08 Feb 11,, 03:06
10000 Maniacs cover of Springsteens " Because the night"

Written for Patti Smith

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by Springsteen, who later released it

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Done best by Natalie Merchant and Ten Thousand Maniacs

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Blue
08 Feb 11,, 06:16
I thought this was a very honorable tribute to the orig (and more timely). It rocks.

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The original..........

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Blue
08 Feb 11,, 06:25
Uncle Ted, rock on forever!!! Playing to a friggin gigantic crowd in '78!! WOW!!

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Pantera doing a great tribute


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Blue
08 Feb 11,, 06:40
I like them both...don't know what to say about that....

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Blue
08 Feb 11,, 06:50
The original

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The remake

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I like them both and just FYI, I have all of the covers I am going to post on CD and listen often, so I don't have a fave, I just like covers and originals.

I think a cover makes an orig better for some reason, even if the cover sucks, or maybe the orig sucked, the cover could be killer....There are plenty of examples of both, I got a load of them.

Be back soon.....

clackers
16 Apr 11,, 16:09
I also like Rick Rubin's production work over the years which included The Red Hot Chili Peppers' version of Stevie Wonder's Higher Ground ...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gs2o5T7oN8

AC/DC fans should also check out his work with The Cult on Love Removal Machine, which is practically a tribute song.

clackers
16 Apr 11,, 16:18
Singer-songwriter Nick Lowe's What's So Funny About Peace, Love and Understanding? is a plaintive acoustic piece about the end of the hippy dream, but Elvis Costello injected it with the spirit of the New Wave and turned it into a call-to-arms.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RVDQgVxprE&feature=fvwrel

Blue
20 Apr 11,, 03:57
I didn't know until tonight that Warrant covered one of my faves......


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE3kDWqvGo8

I got an interesting story about Blackfoot and this song.....another time...but needless to say, I like 'em.......


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-pqNtAfTMI&feature=related

Bigfella
20 Apr 11,, 13:17
Eclectic picks Eric (not sure about the Rob Zombie one). Imagine my surprise at finding out you like Ted Nugent. ;)

Bigfella
20 Apr 11,, 13:22
Clackers brought up Elvis Costello, here's one I had no idea was a cover. Saw him do it with Bruce Springsteen on TV recently - very good indeed. This is definately a case of Costello making the sing 'his own' - The Sam & Dave version is VERY differnt.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwiNHX5Qc80

The Costello original:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEZrBw6mcSM

And the original by Sam & Dave:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzU10C5dNpg

Bigfella
20 Apr 11,, 13:29
Not sure if this is technically a cover, but I'm putting it in. Like the original. LOVE the version with Anthrax - put it on a good stereo & just wait for the bass to blow your hair back.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cvy7MWjfVPE


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBA-xi8WuCU

Bigfella
20 Apr 11,, 13:33
Speaking of Anthrax....who wold have thought they would not only do a Joe jackson song, but do a great version (the Joe Jackson clip is a bit irritating& probably bad if you have epilepsy - sorry).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTIPCc1nKYQ



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be7iNHw8QoQ

Bigfella
20 Apr 11,, 13:40
Speaking of metal, a fine effort from WASP (still prefer the Who, but a good version).

This clip doesn't contain the full song, but it has the opening of the film 'Quadrophenia', so that makes up for it


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzLky4U-xCg



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Te-jTA8g8Ys

Bigfella
20 Apr 11,, 13:44
Saw these guys live on monday night. They didn't play this, but I still love it (I like both versions - different but great).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUkNwmc03yY



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLtKYFP-Zso

Blue
23 Apr 11,, 02:13
Eclectic picks Eric (not sure about the Rob Zombie one). Imagine my surprise at finding out you like Ted Nugent. ;):biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

Blue
23 Apr 11,, 02:25
BF, thanks for those Sam & Dave covers. I've been a fan for years and knew of the ZZTop one, but didn't know anyone did Can't stand up for falling down.

Here is another that I ran across........


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUvVo-4F5qM

I really enjoyed the Fab T-birds when they were on top. Great sound, did justice to thier covers IMO........


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P3No5P4sFs

USSWisconsin
13 Jun 11,, 03:31
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nW0ACEOEq6w&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6C0RmRGTePw&feature=related

DOR
14 Jun 11,, 03:31
While I would consider a “cover version” to be a second take on what was already a fairly famous song, it would take a smaller mind than mine to find fault with House of the Rising Sun, or Mr Tambourine Man, but here are a couple for consideration—

The Grateful Dead’s Me and Bobby McGee, by Kris Kristofferson
The Grateful Dead’s Johnny B. Goode, by Chuck Berry
The Rolling Stones Little Red Rooster, by Willie Dixon, from Charlie Patton and others

Bigfella
14 Jun 11,, 11:34
Wisconsin,

This ukelele fetish is getting a wee bit disturbing...Didn't mind their version until they started doing Sinatra songs. The Bowie version is a favourite of mine. Such evocative images.

Bigfella
14 Jun 11,, 11:52
Zoot were a popular group in Australia in the late 70s. They were best known for their all pink outfits, the later success of several members and this cover. Lead singer Darryl Cotton went on to host a successful children's show. Guitarist Beeb Birtles went on to form the Little River band and Rick Springfield went on to a successful career in music & TV.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_3IUASoqfM&feature=related

Asim Aquil
14 Jun 11,, 13:07
In the Masters Class

You have Bob Dylans All Along the Watchtower as covered by Jimi Hendrix.

Even Dylan said Hendrix did the best version

All others pale in comparison


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I was gonna post All along the watchtower...

But Hendrix' version was the best perhaps back then, but check out the relatively recent version by Bear Mcreary.

Similarly compared to Bowie's Man who sold the world, Nirvana's better.

S2
14 Jun 11,, 14:12
Long been a fan of the Dead's Me & Bobby McGee as found on the 1971 Skull & Roses live album. They'd evolved by that point into a nice, tight snappy lil' psychedelic country outfit with one drummer.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6F3FFxacBl0

Johnny B. Goode from the same album was also a classic.

I've posted Wharf Rat and Not Fade Away/Goin' Down The Road elsewhere from that LP btw.

Nice version of Merle Haggard's Mama Tried preceded by Me And My Uncle from the same album-


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUd5-7tTW4w

Bigfella
20 Jul 11,, 13:14
I've probably posted this one before, but mortality is on the mind tonight, so it is up again. Not sure if this technically counts as a cover, as the same two people sing on both original versions. Andy Prieboy (ex wall of voodoo) wrote this about a friend of his who contracted HIV & eventually took her own life. Johnette Napolitano of Concrete Bolnde sang background & one verse on his version & recorded on with her band. Haunting.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZBQGCI2hm0&feature=related



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqpYqTtIhVs

BD1
20 Jul 11,, 22:10
i´ve posted this once in music thread, but this is just so well done, with good humor and with respect


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tujga5JdP1M

DOR
21 Jul 11,, 06:14
S2,

You have excellent taste, sir.

S2
08 Aug 11,, 05:04
Ville,

I just HAD to laugh again.:biggrin:

THAT is an amazing cover of SMOKE ON THE WATER.:wors::Dancing-Banana:

BD1
08 Aug 11,, 06:39
thanks Steve, it´s really brilliant, isn´t it?

Gun Grape
21 Aug 11,, 21:44
Nancy's version was pretty obscure until Kill Bill came out. Now many artist attribute the song to her when they cover it.

The original by Cher


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzwKVOpoBtE&feature=related



Nancy Sinatra


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5Xl0Qry-hA

S2
27 Aug 11,, 16:21
Wild Horses-


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjpa_OYAEpo

Story is that Keith Richard wrote this for the Burittos and Gram Parsons. As good as the Stones version is, IMHO this is best.

Another great cover, The Bee Gees To Love Somebody-


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBBOqxFhq1k

Blue
08 Sep 11,, 05:32
NOT the best!!!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1tu2IQzObY

bigross86
08 Sep 11,, 08:30
NOT the best!!!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1tu2IQzObY

If it's NOT the best, and it most clearly isn't, why did you post it?!?! Can you not read, man?!

Blue
09 Sep 11,, 22:24
If it's NOT the best, and it most clearly isn't, why did you post it?!?! Can you not read, man?!

Naw...I was drinkin and surfin YT when I stumbled across it. I dunno...maybe I should make a worst cover ever thread. Man that would be a long one huh?:rolleyes:

Maybe some of gunnuts' thread jacking talents are rubbing off on me.:biggrin:

Doktor
09 Sep 11,, 22:27
gunnut's sneaking over the net and imposing you now. new talents he developed while missed (allegedly playing wot, pfff)

YellowFever
09 Sep 11,, 23:29
Well, some of snipe's red neckness (is that a word?) rubbed off on gunnut.

gunnur might as well let some of his ability to hijack threads rub off on snipe....

Gun Grape
10 Sep 11,, 00:07
i´ve posted this once in music thread, but this is just so well done, with good humor and with respect


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tujga5JdP1M


I'll see your japanese Smoke and raise you a Korean Stairway to heaven :biggrin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJSgR80dbUU

Blue
10 Sep 11,, 01:37
Well, some of snipe's red neckness (is that a word?) rubbed off on gunnut.

gunnur might as well let some of his ability to hijack threads rub off on snipe....

Well first off, it's "redneckiness" and I'm tellin ya', gunnut could live here and fit right in on his own. I don't think I taught him much more about being redneck than he already knew. As for thread jacking, he's still the king. I LMAO everytime he throws out an over the top response and just lets others walk right into it. Keeps things interesting here, especially when the fish bites the hook.:wors:

BD1
10 Sep 11,, 09:50
I'll see your japanese Smoke and raise you a Korean Stairway to heaven :biggrin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJSgR80dbUU
awesome. and it broke a howling spree of a 5 month boy, who is quiet and listening on my lap.

so i reply with this awesome cover. i think i´ve posted it before, but it´s pure win


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQsoO46ufew

bigross86
10 Sep 11,, 13:58
I'll see your Ukrainian "Highway to Hell" and raise you a nerd and his Kazookeylele performing "The Final Countdown":


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAg5KjnAhuU

Especially impressive is how he provides his own echo in the second verse, and consistently looks for the correct notes but can't quite find them...

Bigfella
09 Oct 11,, 08:05
A good argument here for leaving well enough alone. Bob Seger manages it best (no surprise there) - apparently he mentioned to Rod Stewart he was doing it & hey presto! - guess Rod the sellout couldn't even steal with originality by then. As a result Bob chose not to release it. Pity, his version would have been a more worthy hit. Rod's cover is passable, but only if you can get over the same faux emotion he has been churning out for decades (proof that even he can't kill a classic). Patti Smyth just completely overdoes it. The original is still the best....by a fairly wide margin.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuSZEBuDUC4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POj1W7mOF7Q&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHqB3v5rNCc


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv1MTT4NofE

S2
09 Oct 11,, 08:13
Nutbush City Limits-


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gw3nOPOIAsU

I've Been Working-


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WBSSN6VpUs

bigross86
09 Oct 11,, 08:35
Don't know if I posted this already, but it's an awesome cover nonetheless:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8JcWD1rHVo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=px__SsVXX_0


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H14R4ZsMM0E

Bigfella
09 Oct 11,, 08:47
BR,

I suspect either you or I posted this at some point, but no matter. All three versions are worthy of re-posting.

bigross86
11 Oct 11,, 17:28
The Maestro hard at work accompanied by some awesome vocals to produce what is truly a masterpiece and a wonderful tribute:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DeOSLNbhfg&feature=related

S2
22 Oct 11,, 08:31
Originally written and performed by Jamaican reggae artist Jackie Edwards, Keep On Running became a big UK #1 uptempo R&B hit for the Spencer Davis Group in November 1965.

Yeah, you don't know the song until you hear it but with Winwood's vocals you'll immediately say, "Ahhh, that's right...Keep On Running"-


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CznVKCxPmg&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X4ZAqNTIB0&feature=related

Gun Grape
21 Jan 12,, 23:29
3 month old thread. I can Necro


Original


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSehtaY6k1U
80s version by soft cell

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEh5pWjcWCg

Better Version by Marilyn Manson


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-0MXklxHlQ

YellowFever
22 Jan 12,, 01:15
Thanks for bringing this thread back, Gunny. :biggrin:

One of my favorite tunes of all time....turned into a disco beat. I actually like the cover version also....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIzaYbIrRUQ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8NVQ0iao0g

YellowFever
22 Jan 12,, 01:24
I forgot how much I loved this thread.

One of my fav Euro-trash songs by RAF...covered by Laura Branigan the same year. Laura hit it big with it but RAF didn't.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4oya9nYv7Q


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8-pP4VboBk&feature=related

YellowFever
22 Jan 12,, 01:29
Mods/Admins, this thread is just too good to let it die again.

If shek and Benny approves, can you merge this thread with this one?

http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/multimedia-jukebox-room/59140-battle-cover-songs.html

Bigfella
22 Jan 12,, 04:36
Benny,

Eric Burdon/Animals is my favourite version, but the song was written for & first recorded by Nina Simone. She once confronted him about it “So you’re the honky who stole my song and got a hit out of it?” (she wasn't actually the author). He hit back that there were guys sitting in prisons all over the south whose songs she had made hits & she had never paid them a dime. Apparently they became firm friends thereafter.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ckv6-yhnIY&feature=related

I always like the Elvis Costello version too.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbk8o8lr3UM

YellowFever
22 Jan 12,, 06:20
OK, in my 6 year illustrative career of posting at WAB, I'm been insulted many times.

Troll
Yellow Belly
Yeller
An ugly mo fo
And ass kisser
etc....

But this:


Benny......

is by far the worst insult ever! :mad: :tongue:

I never heard of the Elvis Costello version before.....WOW!

mustavaris
22 Jan 12,, 07:15
Two of my all time favourites..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clq01TXQR0s

And (I know some will hate this:D )


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzoebhQ7hjQ

This shirt got me into trouble once

http://www.cmdistro.com/images/xlarge/PKG000313.jpg

Bigfella
22 Jan 12,, 11:11
OK, in my 6 year illustrative career of posting at WAB, I'm been insulted many times.

Troll
Yellow Belly
Yeller
An ugly mo fo
And ass kisser
etc....

But this:



is by far the worst insult ever! :mad: :tongue:

Consider it punishment for posting that godawful Eurodisco trash. Not even the whitefro & the odd facial expressions can salvage it. Besides, what are you so upset about, have you seen a photo of Ben? I sort of assuming you are more Kim Jong Un than Daniel Dae Kim, so I just upgraded you to 'handsome'. Some people just can't be pleased.


I never heard of the Elvis Costello version before.....WOW!

Yep, mr MacManus knows his shit alright. If you ever want to see the best music chat show ever made, track down the 2 seies of 'spectacle'. Super intelligent music chat wiht some pretty cool folk plus some damed fine music. Oh, and he's married to Diana Krall. Colour me impressed.

bigross86
22 Jan 12,, 11:28
Hated the books, don't plan on watching the film, but the film has a great cover of Zeppelin's the Immigrant Song:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkP3urtYCkc

S2
22 Jan 12,, 19:47
"...Oh, and he's married to Diana Krall. Colour me impressed."

Moi aussi. Didn't know. Brilliant pianist and vocal stylist...and she likes Burt Bacharach.

Doktor
22 Jan 12,, 19:55
Why, oh why noone mentioned this song?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJpB_AEZf6U


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcWTTs8QVRc


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ItL_N400V4

S2
22 Jan 12,, 20:02
"Why, oh why noone mentioned this song?"

Open Pandora's box and look in and there'll be no stopping what comes out. You're talking about the most heavily-covered dude in musicdom. EVERYBODY has covered Dylan-most really, really well. Bands like The Byrds and The Band made a living doing it. Turtles, Stones, Animals, Peter, Paul & Mary, Joan Baez, etc.

Forget it...:biggrin:

Doktor
22 Jan 12,, 20:07
"Why, oh why noone mentioned this song?"

Open Pandora's box and look in and there'll be no stopping what comes out. You're talking about the most heavily-covered dude in musicdom. EVERYBODY has covered Dylan-most really, really well. Bands like The Byrds and The Band made a living doing it. Turtles, Stones, Animals, Peter, Paul & Mary, Joan Baez, etc.

Forget it...:biggrin:


Noted.

How about this one? Hope Doors are not off limits :tongue:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo6Es-itLg0


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmLvU1hzP5c

Bigfella
22 Jan 12,, 20:50
"...Oh, and he's married to Diana Krall. Colour me impressed."

Moi aussi. Didn't know. Brilliant pianist and vocal stylist...and she likes Burt Bacharach.

They make quite the couple. Have you seen 'Spectacle'? You would love it.

Gun Grape
23 Jan 12,, 03:26
Thanks for bringing this thread back, Gunny. :biggrin:


Obviously you didn't read.

The sentence was "I can Necro"

Not "Yeller, Will you post lame Disco Crap, Please"

Thank the music Gods for Bigfella. Who posted good music after the Disco/Laura Branigan fiasco

YellowFever
23 Jan 12,, 05:12
Man...post a little Euro disco trash and people get snippy and downright hostile. :tongue:

Oh well, time to annoy more people.

I think I posted this cover somewhere before and S2 called it sacrileges. :biggrin:

Don Henley

Boys of Summer


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw02LCbW3Pg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7JERrqOABs&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SaaYwF56fs


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Y5pth5QpgM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jm917F4zF08&feature=related

S2
23 Jan 12,, 07:01
"...I think I posted this cover somewhere before and S2 called it sacrileges.:biggrin:"

Sacrilege (singular) or sacrilegious. Still is for all but Keith Urban. No fan but the acoustic thingy worked pretty well.

Everything else lacked subtlety and/or talent but for the Eagles IMV. See Steuart Smith replacing Don Felder on guitar there?

YellowFever
23 Jan 12,, 07:23
Yeah...I just realized that after you pointed it out. :frown:

Bigfella
23 Jan 12,, 09:13
Obviously you didn't read.

The sentence was "I can Necro"

Not "Yeller, Will you post lame Disco Crap, Please"

Thank the music Gods for Bigfella. Who posted good music after the Disco/Laura Branigan fiasco

thanks Gunny.

This is a good Dylan song let down by crappy 80s production. I think Dave Stewart from Eurythmics is lurking in the background.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2tIj4Jd_R0&ob=av2e

This is the definitive version from Jeff healy. Much missed.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnuvfUsl6iE

Bigfella
23 Jan 12,, 09:31
One of the very best from one of New Zealand's finest groups (for those not in the know Crowded House was one of the successor groups to the Enz, though this song was written by Tim Finn, older brother of Neil). Finn described it as a love song of sorts, but with a cruel edge: "....here & now but not forever".


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAuwbBPQZnw

Don't know how this ended up on a Belinda Carlisle album in 1986. Very odd indeed. her vocals are OK, but the production lets it down in places (that bloody Bach trumpet sounds like it wandered in from the 'Penny Lane' sessions).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXZ4im3Qpxg

Eddie Vedder has a history of incorporating relatively obscure covers into his sets. Double as handy crowd pleasers outside the US too. This is a duet with the song's writer. I prefer a more stripped back version of this song, though the harmonies let this down a wee bit.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ7tO2Nmnlo

THE WINNER!!!! This version from Australian singer/songwriter Missy Higgins. She nails it for mine.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bQ9JHsteWo&feature=fvsr

ArtyEngineer
23 Jan 12,, 23:45
This is a respectable cover of the Classic Maiden song the Trooper. I like the sound but the vocals are not a patch on the vocal perfection that is Bruce Dickinson!!!!!

Original:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADBo0s4CbvM

Cover:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbsZL-IWjjo&feature=related

"Up the Irons"

Arty

Doktor
23 Jan 12,, 23:54
This is a respectable cover of the Classic Maiden song the Trooper. I like the sound but the vocals are not a patch on the vocal perfection that is Bruce Dickinson!!!!!

"Up the Irons"

Arty

Not only the vocals, but also the guitar is not on par with Adrian Smith.

Gun Grape
24 Jan 12,, 03:03
Since yeller posted some crappy music. I'll have a go at it.

Ricky Martin "livin la vida loca"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p47fEXGabaY&ob=av2e

And Capt Jack having a go at it


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrNfitEbCwM&feature=related

Wayfarer
24 Jan 12,, 03:40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GGQwgBqXYk

Blind Guardian cover of John Farnham.

S2
24 Jan 12,, 04:20
It's my humble opinion that the Black Crowes might be the best cover band out there. Zeppelin is just a small sampling of their performance repetoire but, boy do they kick some SERIOUS azz here with Mr. Page-

In My Time Of Dying-


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSTkaIGNDMw

Steve Gorman just KILLS it on drums. Amazingly so.

What Is And What Should Never Be-


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zikZw9lzKsE

Your Time Is Gonna Come, first song on the first album, done here in New York-


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUxnXIfPoIs&feature=related

Doktor
25 Jan 12,, 11:53
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fljOtNfVYwY&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CHjYHwNzx0&feature=related

:red:

bigross86
25 Jan 12,, 12:15
Almost anything Blues Brothers is awesome

Doktor
25 Jan 12,, 12:19
Almost anything Blues Brothers is awesome

I can agree with that and add Everything Mancini is awesome :)

Gun Grape
05 Feb 12,, 01:41
Because I'm evil :insane:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTWKbfoikeg&ob=av2e



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySsbkLVuYOs

BD1
01 Apr 12,, 19:55
today´s special


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOKKWtJoDHg

S2
01 Apr 12,, 21:21
That fat, little no-talent pig sends me longing for K-Pop. At least no pretension about their audience or purpose. Miley though? Keepin' it real, man with the heavy-duty covers.:rolleyes:

Can I have my four minutes back so I can watch another go-around of Bohemian Rhapsody?:biggrin:

BD1
01 Apr 12,, 21:52
thanks to daylight saving time, i have an hour to spare, so 6 minutes are on your way!

S2
01 Apr 12,, 22:08
"...i have an hour to spare, so 6 minutes are on your way!"

So noted and received. FREDDY THE DRUNK it is. YIPPEE!!!

FJV
09 Apr 12,, 03:37
Insert evil maniakal laughter here, :):):):biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULmC8JTTVy0

Wooglin
09 Apr 12,, 05:04
Alice in Chains and Gretchen Wilson Cover Barracuda by Heart. I don't know who she is but wow can she sing. Epic cover.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqQkECIn738

S2
09 Apr 12,, 06:49
She's a pretty notable country singer. No relation to the Wilson sisters of HEART, you may have noticed Nancy playing guitar on that cover. Super-duper cover. Letter and note perfect.

Parihaka
09 Apr 12,, 07:24
I won't judge who's the best here though obviously Depeche Mode did a slap up version to start with



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNd4eocq2K0&ob=av2e

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQcNiD0Z3MU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl6fyhZ0G5E&ob=av2e

Gun Grape
20 Sep 12,, 02:09
Well since others are doing their "Ode to Pulp Fiction" on another thread, How about this.

The original, Misirlou, then a remake by the Black eye peas with words. Pump it


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjUiOh8efaQ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaI2IlHwmgQ

Gun Grape
21 Sep 12,, 02:54
Look at little Sister

Hank Ballards original


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d7Yn2pe1HE

SRV cover


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yWaZVchd6k&feature=related

Doktor
23 Feb 14,, 00:39
Dormant for too long.

Not about particular song, but about two young Croats who cover a lot of songs and do so oh so good.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfGggAGITwg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn2y0NtzAe0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ae23y2D8VSI

bigross86
23 Feb 14,, 16:31
I've got quite a few of their songs on my computer, but I've got to say that after a while, hearing the cellos begins to grate on the ears a bit.....

Doktor
23 Feb 14,, 16:57
I agree that it's not something you can hear for days.

Watching them live however is a unique experience.

anil
23 Feb 14,, 17:31
The ghost of tom joad


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VypaE6kKJ8

RUHHH!!

tantalus
28 Oct 14,, 21:39
The Pet Shop Boys' Always On My Mind has been voted the top cover version of all time in a BBC Music vote....

The top 10 tracks in the vote are as follows:

1. Pet Shop Boys - Always On My Mind
2. Johnny Cash - Hurt
3. The Stranglers - Walk On By
4. Jimi Hendrix - All Along The Watchtower
5. Jeff Buckley - Hallelujah
6. Soft Cell - Tainted Love
7. Joe Cocker - With A Little Help From My Friends
8. Sinead O'Connor - Nothing Compares 2 U
9. Muse - Feeling Good
10. Whitney Houston - I Will Always Love You

BBC News - Pet Shop Boys' Always On My Mind tops cover version vote (http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-29791820)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyQrubg4i5A

Not especially impressed with the winner to be honest

Parihaka
07 Mar 15,, 23:01
Not really a cover, more a piece of genius video. Ruskies eh?

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=718538711516750&pnref=story

S2
03 May 15,, 12:45
Pearl Jam does a nice job with two classics from Quadrophenia-


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7yEqPMlQH0

cataphract
03 May 15,, 17:39
Nine Inch Nails cover of Dead Souls (original by Joy Division):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDHqywS6un0

Bigfella
22 May 15,, 16:40
I can't access the main music thread or create another, so I'm just going to post here until I can. If everything ever gets back to normal & the mods have more spare time than they know what to do with they are welcome to magic the posts to a more appropriate place.

As it happens this song does have cover versions, but it is also my favourite song right now. I always like to put in a bit of background, so here it is.

Sia Furler is one of Australia's most successful musicians (in the top 100 wealthiest Australians), though she could probably walk down the street in most places without being recognized. Since the late 90s she has released a string of albums, solo & with British group Zero 7, that have been increasingly successful. Over the past decade she has also become one of the most sought after songwriters in America, penning songs for Christina Aguillera, Beyoncé, Rhianna, Flo Rida and David Guetta. In 2010 her album 'We Are Born' reached number two in Australia. At the same time she decided for personal reasons to withdraw from performing and focus on songwriting. In 2013 she returned to performance, but decided to avoid 'celebrity' by refusing to show her face publically.

In 1997 a 22 year old Sia was on her way to join her boyfriend & first love in London when she received news of his death in an accident. "We were all devastated, so we got shit-faced on drugs and Special Brew. Unfortunately, that bender lasted six years for me." Sadly the next 13 years were marked by battles with alcoholism, drug addiction & bipolar depression. Only someone who has gone though something like that could write & sing this song. This clip is from the Grammys. Sia has her back to the audience. The young girl appeared in the original film clip for the song & has appeared in many of her live performances (mostly on TV).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rFkpcyZ598

This is only half a cover version, but it really nails the song. Karen Gillam (ex-Doctor Who assistant) from the TV show 'Selfie'


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1sRO9wAWD0

This version by Irish band 'The Script' enunciated the words nicely for anyone who struggles with Sia's unique vocal style.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ted8LXzTOmg

Doktor
23 May 15,, 00:31
Thank you, Big

bolo121
23 May 15,, 04:02
I can't access the main music thread or create another, so I'm just going to post here until I can. If everything ever gets back to normal & the mods have more spare time than they know what to do with they are welcome to magic the posts to a more appropriate place.

As it happens this song does have cover versions, but it is also my favourite song right now. I always like to put in a bit of background, so here it is.

Sia Furler is one of Australia's most successful musicians (in the top 100 wealthiest Australians), though she could probably walk down the street in most places without being recognized. Since the late 90s she has released a string of albums, solo & with British group Zero 7, that have been increasingly successful. Over the past decade she has also become one of the most sought after songwriters in America, penning songs for Christina Aguillera, Beyoncé, Rhianna, Flo Rida and David Guetta. In 2010 her album 'We Are Born' reached number two in Australia. At the same time she decided for personal reasons to withdraw from performing and focus on songwriting. In 2013 she returned to performance, but decided to avoid 'celebrity' by refusing to show her face publically.

In 1997 a 22 year old Sia was on her way to join her boyfriend & first love in London when she received news of his death in an accident. "We were all devastated, so we got shit-faced on drugs and Special Brew. Unfortunately, that bender lasted six years for me." Sadly the next 13 years were marked by battles with alcoholism, drug addiction & bipolar depression. Only someone who has gone though something like that could write & sing this song. This clip is from the Grammys. Sia has her back to the audience. The young girl appeared in the original film clip for the song & has appeared in many of her live performances (mostly on TV).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rFkpcyZ598

This is only half a cover version, but it really nails the song. Karen Gillam (ex-Doctor Who assistant) from the TV show 'Selfie'


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1sRO9wAWD0

This version by Irish band 'The Script' enunciated the words nicely for anyone who struggles with Sia's unique vocal style.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ted8LXzTOmg

/the Irish version was better. The first one is just sad, all that mental damage in plain view on stage.

Bigfella
23 May 15,, 04:47
/the Irish version was better. The first one is just sad, all that mental damage in plain view on stage.

For me its the rawness of the first one that makes it so powerful. At her lowest point in 2010 she wrote out a suicide note & was on the verge of following through before a fortunate call from a friend. I think the song was partly inspired by that. She originally considered offering it to someone else - Beyoncé & Rhianna I think. Decided it would only work if she did it. Clearly the right decision.

The Script version is a good way to hear the power behind the lyrics, but its a bit 'pop' for me.

If it helps, she has cleaned up, dealt with her problems, has a fiancée & is a very happy (and wealthy) person. She's very cheerful in interviews.

Just to show she can be upbeat, something from her successful 2010 album We Are Born:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr1bTNFjec8

This one is more downbeat. It was used for the memorable final scene of 'Six Feet Under'. Also a chance to see what she looks like. The clip is from 2010 and the intro summarizes where she is nicely - "This is when I was sad, I feel heaps better now"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZXGfJMFZvM

Bigfella
23 May 15,, 05:02
This is the latest clip from The Black Jesus Experience. Enushu (vocals), Peter (sax) and Ian (flugel/trumpet) are very dear friends. The clip was shot at their café The Horn (http://thehorncafe.com.au/), where I eat most Thursdays (if anyone is ever in town dinner is on me :D). Enushu is from Ethiopia & is singing in her native Amharic. Tibor, the white rapper, is a waiter there. The little boy you briefly see dancing in the clip with Enushu is she & Peter's son. Their teenage daughter was too shy to go on camera and instantly regretted the decision when she saw the clip.

The band is currently touring Africa.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Dgzjbold6k

Bigfella
23 May 15,, 05:18
Sixteen years ago I was working with Tommy & Pat Boyce when they joined with Jim Lewis to form the Casanovas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Casanovas). Through personnel changes, serious illness & a bad management deal that cost them all their earnings the boys are still going. While Tommy & I have drifted over the years, I'm now good mates with Jim & will see him at the football tonight (we are fans of the Mighty Hawks!). They launched their new album last week & I went to the gig. This is a clip of the encore, with Jim returning to the stage to sing his signature tune.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_vqz4YxOSw

A cheerful ditty about the guy who screwed them out of all their money.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4aOTlZKKvM

The boys' first release back in 2000. Filmed at Tommy's old school. Still sounds great.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tG6BbQvYSzU

S2
23 May 15,, 13:57
Pete,

Recall a Casanova video that you'd posted ages ago, I believe Shake It-


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9ePr7IvSrs

Flat out rocks.

S2
23 May 15,, 14:11
Guess this would be a cover of Gershwin-


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48aPXCsI2Uw

Whatever else, it's one of the most darkly stunning performances I've ever heard. As somebody elsewhere said, it's like the music played in the waiting room to the gates of hell.

Bigfella
23 May 15,, 15:55
Pete,

Recall a Casanova video that you'd posted ages ago, I believe Shake It-


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9ePr7IvSrs


Flat out rocks.

They still rock as hard as ever mate. They have also extended their range a bit. The best song on the new album reminds me of Tom Petty. Hopefully it will end up on Youtube.

Bigfella
23 May 15,, 16:12
Guess this would be a cover of Gershwin-

Whatever else, it's one of the most darkly stunning performances I've ever heard. As somebody elsewhere said, it's like the music played in the waiting room to the gates of hell.

Porgy & Bess is one of the greatest achievements of one of the great jazz careers. Miles out front; Gil Evans arranging; Teo Macero producing; & a band including Cannonball Adderley, Paul Chambers, Philly Joe Jones & Jimmy Cobb. If you get the chance listen to the whole album.

A different version of Summertime:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR1bOE3Fszo

Miles covers some contemporary tunes:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OddHP8_Em7s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnhhHOzOAeo


The economy of his playing after 1970ish is striking. Sometimes the bands behind him & arrangements were indifferent, but his playing soared above it all. Has a trumpeter ever done more with less?

S2
23 May 15,, 19:55
"Has a trumpeter ever done more with less?"

Davis created melody from empty space. Wasn't Gillespie or F. Hubbard as a horn technician IMV. Certainly not as fast but when did he ever need to be?

Bigfella
24 May 15,, 02:47
"Has a trumpeter ever done more with less?"

Davis created melody from empty space. Wasn't Gillespie or F. Hubbard as a horn technician IMV. Certainly not as fast but when did he ever need to be?

He found his own voice in a way only the towering greats ever do. He understood his limitations and turned them into strengths. His restless innovation changed jazz time & time again. I can't think of another jazz musician who changed the art form as many times. He also had an unmatched eye for talent both as a sideman & a leader. You would struggle to find a major postwar musician who didn't perform with him at some point, most of them under his direction.

1958 - moody & cool


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ4l4oRkh_8

1959 1) Modal jazz


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6w4FI0Jq0lI

1959 2) Sketches of Spain


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsWidlDldVk

1967 - responding to the avante garde


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Davis_discography#Live_albums

1969 1) - the birth of fusion


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRo-qLOu2qM

1975 - 'the space between the notes'


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j68BIF00Fso

Bigfella
24 May 15,, 02:51
forgot 1949 - birth of the Cool :)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fux-ao04VHg

S2
24 May 15,, 12:53
Pete,

Miss the "Like" for Miles. I've owned the Gil Evans collaborations for years and love them each uniquely.

Bigfella
25 May 15,, 13:21
Pete,

Miss the "Like" for Miles. I've owned the Gil Evans collaborations for years and love them each uniquely.

I doubt there has been a better collaborator in modern jazz than Miles. His ability to bring out the magic in others is uncanny. Of those collaborations his work with Gil Evans is matched only by his work with Coltrane and his Hancock/Williams/Carter/Shorter Quintet. The arrangements Evans & Davis produced over almost 2 decades continue to delight & amaze. The shimmering arrangement of 'Concierto de Aranjuez still gives me shivers.

As I've already posted that, here is some live magic. Glad this got saved for posterity.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG9wHUXcih4

S2
25 May 15,, 21:32
Aranjuez IS extraordinary. I'd love to know more about the particular objective(s) Miles had in mind with these Gil Evans collaborations. Who approached who and why they did so? When you consider how he was moving simultaneously towards a septet sized modal sound when performing live, something as disciplined, elaborate and tight as this was an entirely different direction.

Andrey Egorov
26 May 15,, 08:56
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoeFA5ZLGJ8

S2
30 May 15,, 14:58
Small Faces covering McCartney's "Maybe I'm Amazed"-


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLhoLkTyNkM&index=5&list=RDMM7tgqYWQKBnw

Very soulful rendition. Stewart had an absolutely astounding voice.

Bigfella
01 Jun 15,, 13:04
At his best Rod was a stunning interpreter of other people's work. Great track S2. A perfect song for the Faces.

He turned this little noticed Crazy Horse song (by the late Danny Whitten) into his own.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-uAdxpj-KY

A Cat Stevens classic. These two were released as a double A side.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5NRH_DxWJE

Even as late as the 80s he could still turn it on, this time with old buddy Geoff Beck on a Curtis Mayfield classic.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC_j_dzkaVE

Bigfella
01 Jun 15,, 13:35
Follow the bouncing ball (and try not to get confused). :biggrin:

Luke Kelly & the Dubliners do Ewan MacColl.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mPraO_sJ7A

Roberta Flack does Ewan MacColl.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9jmusgMgro

Rod Stewart does Ewan MacColl.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKK5y6PT_4A

Billy Bragg does Billy Bragg.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmAcHjOm_48

Kristy MacColl does Billy Bragg. He added an extra verse for her which Billy now sings in all his shows in tribute to her.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vnzpg5GgQCo

The Pogues & Kristy MacColl


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9jbdgZidu8

The Pogues do Ewan MacColl


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llD8M9BfHPg

The Pogues do Rod Stewart


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPS5Gv2ZQiE

S2
06 Jun 15,, 08:04
Pete,

I see you working that full circle connectivity thingy. Nice. Special kudos for Ms. Flack and a song that stops me in my tracks, always, to be heard and savored before again moving on. My world stops the moment she sings that song.

S2
22 Jun 15,, 05:27
Few are aware of the earlier Byrds version of this after the success had by the Doobie Bros. but here's a great rendition from the Fillmore East of Jesus Is Just Alright-


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLtKbqEIY58

S2
02 Aug 15,, 08:21
James Gang's first album, Bluebird, their cover of the Buffalo Springfield classic-


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMIaI6DSG6w