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    Airport body scans, pat-downs draw more complaints
    By MICHAEL TARM, Associated Press Michael Tarm, Associated Press Tue Nov 16, 8:48 pm ET

    CHICAGO – An airport traveler who famously resisted a full-body scan and groin check with the words "If you touch my junk, I'll have you arrested" has become an Internet sensation, tapping into rising frustration over increasingly invasive searches.

    John Tyner's online account — complete with cell-phone video of the encounter — has helped fuel a campaign urging travelers to decline the body scans next week during the busiest travel day of the year.

    It also raised questions about the complaints: Are Americans standing up to government overreach or simply whining about the inconvenience of air travel while insisting on full protection from terrorists?

    "I think Americans, in their hearts, still feel airport security is just a big show — form over substance," said Joseph Schwieterman, a Chicago-based transportation expert. "So they're impatient with strategies they feel are just there to placate political demands rather the genuine security threats."

    Many of the people who have little tolerance for airport security are the same ones who want the government to work aggressively to prevent terrorist attacks, Schwieterman said.

    Long-simmering annoyance among passengers and even plane crews has recently risen to new heights with wider use of full-body scanners, which show a traveler's physical contours on a computer in a private room removed from security checkpoints. Faces are never shown, and the person's identity is supposedly not known to the screener reviewing the images.

    About 300 of the scanners are in use at 60 U.S. airports. The Transportation Security Administration hopes to deploy approximately 500 units by the end of the year.

    Not all travelers are selected to go through the scanners, but the TSA requires people who decline to submit to pat-downs that include checks of the inside of their thighs and buttocks. Top federal officials insist the procedures are safe and necessary to ward off terror attacks.

    "It's all about security," Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said. "It's all about everybody recognizing their role."

    Tyner, a 31-year-old software engineer from Oceanside, Calif., insisted he was not looking for notoriety when he confronted TSA agents last weekend at the San Diego airport.

    "I don't think I did anything heroic," he said in a telephone interview Tuesday. "I stood up for what I thought was right."

    After Tyner declined to go through the full-body scanner, he refused to submit to a groin check as part of a pat-down. He was thrown out of the airport Saturday after being threatened with a fine and lawsuit.

    His confrontation spawned online sales of T-shirts, bumper stickers, hats and even underwear emblazoned with the words, "Don't Touch My Junk!"

    But he does not advocate travelers following his lead, saying he appreciates that most people cannot afford to put expensive trips at risk.

    "But people ought to do what their consciences say they should do," he said. "If civil disobedience is a way they think would work, I think they should do it."

    Tyner's one-man protest has inspired other efforts, including an online campaign urging air travelers to refuse body scans in a "National Opt-Out Day" the day before Thanksgiving, one of the year's busiest travel days.

    Brian Sodergren, 33, of Ashburn, Va., said he put up the site a week ago. Interest spiked after Tyner's video went viral.

    "This issue has picked up steam more than I ever would have imagined," said Sodergren, who works in the health care industry. "The outpouring has been huge."

    Sodergren stops short of urging people to refuse both the scanner and pat-down.

    "The proper reaction isn't walking away and subjecting yourself to penalties," he said Tuesday. "The proper response is to write to your lawmakers and get the law changed."

    But compared to security in some other countries, Schwieterman argued, procedures in the U.S. are far from intrusive.

    In Israel, where Palestinians attacked planes in the 1970s, passengers face tough questioning and multiple inspections. Single women who are not Israeli citizens are sometimes inspected more intensely because militants have tried to use them as couriers.

    "Americans have yet to make any really major sacrifices for their security," said Schwieterman, a professor at DePaul University in Chicago. "Pat-downs and scanners are minimally evasive — and there's even resistance to this, just 15 seconds of awkwardness."

    A woman whose flight was targeted by a Nigerian man suspected of carrying explosives in his underwear said she believes all security measures, including full-body scanners, should be considered to curb threats.

    "People shouldn't be too much concerned about their privacy because this is a life-and-death matter," said 55-year-old Shama Chopra of Montreal, who was traveling from Amsterdam to Detroit on Christmas Day of last year. "We should be discussing all security."

    But it's not just passengers putting up resistance. Some airline pilots are pushing back, too.

    "I would say that pilots are beyond fed up," said Tom Walsh, a pilot and sometime aviation security consultant. "The TSA is wasting valuable time and money searching the crew, who are not a threat."

    One of the nation's most celebrated pilots, Capt. Chesley "Sully" Sullenberger, has also detected the growing unease.

    "The fundamental reason is that airline pilots are already the last line of defense for anyone who poses a threat to the airplane," said the soft-spoken Sullenberger, who successfully ditched his US Airways plane in the Hudson River last year after it struck birds during takeoff. "We are — and would like to be considered — trusted partners in that important security mission."

    At least one pilots union, the U.S. Airline Pilots Association, has issued new instructions to members to call in sick and not board flights if, after a pat-down, they are too upset to fly.

    "If the pilot feels the groping is too much and they are stressed out — they are obliged not to fly," union spokesman James Ray said. He insisted the new instruction is not meant as a protest, saying it complies with rules that pilots don't fly if they feel they are not fit.

    Despite the concerns about pat-downs, Ray said, the union recommends pilots avoid going through scanners out of concern that cumulative effects of low radiation could be harmful.

    But Ray agreed that if enough pilots and travelers opt out of body scans, delays could result, especially if there aren't enough TSA screeners to conduct the more time-consuming pat-downs.

    From now on, Tyner said, his protest of choice will be more straightforward: Whenever he can, he simply won't fly. He said that should be practical option because most of the friends and relatives he visits are in the California area.

    "I would suggest other people also take the train, bus or car instead of a plane," he said. "Take a trip and enjoy the countryside."

    ___

    Associated Press Writer Corey Williams in Detroit contributed to this report.
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    To sit down with these men and deal with them as the representatives of an enlightened and civilized people is to deride ones own dignity and to invite the disaster of their treachery - General Matthew Ridgway

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    The entire ordeal is a mess. If you don't want to be subjected to the security measures, whether you think they are warranted/effective or not, then take a greyhound. People are acting as though flying on an airline is their constitutional right.

    The day a dude tries to set off an underwear bomb next to him in business class will change his mind. The body scans are great--it prevents anyone from having to be patted down.

    Tyner probably doesn't want the first (non-self) human contact with his genetalia to be from a male TSA agent. Good luck John.
    "The way to a man's heart is through his stomach...just make sure you thrust upward through his ribcage."

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    • #3
      There's a nice long thread on this that gunnut started a couple days ago...
      Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

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      • #4
        People are acting as though flying on an airline is their constitutional right.
        No, people are acting as if they have a right to privacy and from unreasonable searches under the fourth amendment...and they do. Whether or not enough people will be willing to trade it for the feeling of security is another question.

        The body scans are great--it prevents anyone from having to be patted down.
        Wrong. First, they still pick people to be patted own, and second, not everyone has the choice of going through the x-ray scanner so they will always be subjected to the enhanced pat down.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ShawnG View Post
          The entire ordeal is a mess. If you don't want to be subjected to the security measures, whether you think they are warranted/effective or not, then take a greyhound. People are acting as though flying on an airline is their constitutional right.

          The day a dude tries to set off an underwear bomb next to him in business class will change his mind. The body scans are great--it prevents anyone from having to be patted down.

          Tyner probably doesn't want the first (non-self) human contact with his genetalia to be from a male TSA agent. Good luck John.
          Getting rid of the body scanners will inevitably lead to an increased risk of a successful terrorist attack, but I say the risk is worth it to regain privacy. We must accept some risks and responsibilities in order to keep our liberties.

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          • #6
            I'll continue in the other thread--I wasn't aware it was already started (lack of using the search option!)
            "The way to a man's heart is through his stomach...just make sure you thrust upward through his ribcage."

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