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Roosveltrepub
26 Apr 10,, 17:49
Once might be an oops but using the same deception ten years later is an insult to their own party. They are willfully trying to decieve the people whose interests they claim to represent. Then to compound it by claiming it's just a fundraising/opinion letter not meant to deceive is laughable. Yeah right, where were the republican census mailers the last 9 years if it wasn't meant to be confusing or deceptive?
RNC 'census' mailer draws fire
By: Ben Smith
January 25, 2010 11:19 AM EDT

Officials of both parties are sharply criticizing a fundraising mailing from Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele they say could be confused with official correspondence regarding this year’s census.

The fundraising letter comes in the form of a “survey,” a frequently used device for partisan fundraising, but this one has a twist: Calling itself the “Congressional District Census,” the letter comes in an envelope starkly printed with the words, “DO NOT DESTROY OFFICIAL DOCUMENT” and describes itself, on the outside of the envelope, as a “census document.”

“Strengthening our party for the 2010 elections is going to take a massive grass-roots effort all across America,” Steele writes in a letter that blends official-sounding language, partisan calls to arms, and requests for between $25 and $500. “That is why I have authorized a census to be conducted for every congressional district in the country.”

The mailing is a Republican Party standby, a source of contributions — and occasional complaints — for more than a decade. But the latest round comes in a year when the actual United States census is getting under way, and officials say they’re worried that the GOP will sow confusion. News outlets in Wyoming, New York, Tennessee, and Minnesota have printed complaints about the mailers, with the director of the Census Bureau's regional office in Kansas City, Dennis Johnson, criticizing the letter in the Pioneer Press.

"My biggest concern is that it might be confusing to some residents who get this and then get the real one in a couple of months," Johnson said.

Congress is also taking an interest.

“The mailing appears to be designed to resemble official census documents and to deceive recipients as to its true origins,” wrote Democratic Reps. Carolyn Maloney (N.Y.) and Rep. William Lacy Clay (Mo.), who chairs the House Subcommittee that oversees the census, in a letter last month to the U.S. Postmaster General. “We believe that the RNC mailings are an attempt to mislead recipients and appear to us to be violations of federal law,” the letter states.

The ranking Republican on the subcommittee, North Carolina Rep. Patrick McHenry, has also raised concerns about the RNC mailing, though an aide said he hasn’t complained to the RNC directly.

“Congressman McHenry is very concerned about the integrity of the census and would discourage any organization from distributing information that intentionally or not is easily confused with official U.S. Census materials,” the aide, Parker Poling, said in reference to the RNC mailer.

Maloney complained of the same mailing in 2000, during that year’s census, and Maloney and Clay asked the postmaster general to open an investigation into whether the mailings violate the Deceptive Mail Prevention and Enforcement Act. Postal officials responded — as they did 10 years ago — that the mailing stays on the correct side of the law because it doesn’t use the full name of the U.S. Census Bureau or the seal of any government agency.

And a spokeswoman for the RNC, Gail Gitcho, downplayed complaints.

“The document is simply a mailer from the RNC that captures Republican opinion and raises a little bit of money,” she said in an e-mail.

Even some who have been involved with the program, however, acknowledged that it walks the line.

"Of course, duping people is the point. ... That's one of the reasons why it works so well,” said one Republican operative familiar with the program, who said it’s among the RNC’s most lucrative fundraising initiatives. “They will likely mail millions this year [with] incredible targeting.”RNC 'census' mailer draws fire - Ben Smith - POLITICO.com (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/31956.html)

Julie
26 Apr 10,, 20:06
I would like to respond to this because I have received such instruments in the mail.

For one, I never registered at no web sites affiliated with Obama, nor did I vote for him. However, he seems to have my mailing address, and have sent a few items to me by mail.

Second, I voted Republican this past election, and have not received one item of literature in the mail from any Republican.

Thirdly, I have received 4 different types of census mailings, one of which I filled out and mailed back in cuz on the front in bold letters it stated it was the law, and penalties and fines would be imposed if I did not fill it out and mail it back in, so I did. :mad:

How many others have experienced this? :confused:

highsea
26 Apr 10,, 20:32
I seem to be immune from political mailings. :)

I filled out the census, no problems with that.

I did receive some years back a different census called "The American Community Census" or something like that. It was about 21 pages long, it wanted work history, how much you earned, all kinds of details about your living arrangements, etc. Very intrusive, that one went into the circular file.

YellowFever
26 Apr 10,, 21:51
I have yet to receive my census! :eek:

Which is a good thing since it saves me a trip to the garbage bin to throw it out.

Julie
26 Apr 10,, 22:27
I have yet to receive my census! :eek:

Which is a good thing since it saves me a trip to the garbage bin to throw it out.I threw away the first 3, but the fourth one had that threatening language on the front in big bold letters so I gave in to it and filled it out and mailed it. :redface:

YellowFever
26 Apr 10,, 22:34
I threw away the first 3, but the fourth one had that threatening language on the front in big bold letters so I gave in to it and filled it out and mailed it. :redface:

Ya chicken!

You shoul've told them you don't speak english.

They'll let it slide, then.

bigross86
26 Apr 10,, 22:45
No habla?

Julie
26 Apr 10,, 22:46
Ya chicken!

You shoul've told them you don't speak english.

They'll let it slide, then.I didn't even think of that, crap !!! :frown:

bigross86
26 Apr 10,, 22:48
Do you honestly think that would work? Every single thing in the US is printed in Spanish as well. Might as well just admit it, Spanish is the second national language

Gun Grape
27 Apr 10,, 02:34
I haven't received a census form either.

ShawnG
27 Apr 10,, 12:31
Do you honestly think that would work? Every single thing in the US is printed in Spanish as well. Might as well just admit it, Spanish is the second national language

I would go so far as to say it's first.

Otherwise, you wouldn't have to stipulate at the ATM machine if you want English or Spanish--it would be English by default!

Albany Rifles
27 Apr 10,, 13:58
I haven't received a census form either.

Gunny

Do you have a street address or a PO Box?

bigross86
27 Apr 10,, 14:42
Gunny

Do you have a street address or a PO Box?

Or you don't have a street address and live in a cardboard box?

(A cardboard box with internet access? Cool!)

Blue
27 Apr 10,, 16:41
When strangers come to my door, esp ones that look like religion peddlers, I usually ignore it, unless they have caught me out in the garage or yard working. When they do, I speak spanish to them and this usually drives them away. Damn if the last one that showed up wasn't bi-lingual!!:redface:

I've heard that many of the census takers are bi-lingual as well. I have decided in that case I'm a deaf mute with ADHD from now on!:tongue:

Gun Grape
28 Apr 10,, 02:45
Gunny

Do you have a street address or a PO Box?

P. O. Box.

Does that mean they are sending someone to interview me? or have they just not mailed those out yet.