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    THE RIGHT VS. THE CULTURE OF LIFE

    Fri Apr 8, 1:40 AM ET Op/Ed - Ted Rall


    By Ted Rall

    Except for Abortion, The Pope Was a Liberal


    Ted Rall



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    NEW YORK--The Terri Schiavo controversy and death of Pope John Paul II mark the launch of a new rhetorical strategy by the American Right: presenting themselves as defenders of a "culture of life." Republicans, who have become the party of war, death penalty and opposition to helping the sick and downtrodden, exhibit brazen hypocrisy every time they dare proclaim themselves "pro-life." Fortunately for them Democrats who defend abortion rights are disinclined to call them on it.


    George W. Bush deployed Karl Rove's new L-word while defending his federal legislation seeking to abolish Michael Schiavo's spousal rights on March 23: "This is an extraordinary and sad case, and I believe that in a case such as this, the legislative branch, the executive branch ought to err on the side of life, which we have." The L-word was uttered again ten days later on the occasion of the papal passing. "Throughout the West," Bush said, "John Paul's witness reminded us of our obligation to build a culture of life in which the strong protect the weak."


    How does Bush square the idea that the executive branch ought to err on the side of life with the fact that, as chief executive of Texas, he only allotted 20 minutes in his schedule to consider each of the 152 death warrants that crossed his desk? (He decided to kill all 152, including famously reformed Born Again Christian Carla Faye Tucker. In an interview, Bush famously mimicked Tucker begging him not to kill her.) Did Bush "err on the side of life" when he ordered U.N. arms inspectors out of Baghdad so he could bomb more than 100,000 Iraqi civilians and tens of thousands of Iraqi soldiers--in search of weapons of mass destruction that the CIA told him probably didn't exist?


    Is Bush's drive to deny Social Security to the elderly part of his plan to "protect the weak"? In regard to fanatical Muslims, when Bush promised to "hunt them, find them and kill them," was that his version of a "culture of life"? Any politician would have trouble passing himself off as an across-the-board pro-lifer, but few would find it as impossible as George W. Bush.


    One of John Paul II's greatest achievements as pope was to add a categorical ban on capital punishment to the Roman Catholic Catechism. The Catholic push for a culture of life manifests itself in the political arena via opposition to the death penalty, euthanasia, suicide and gratuitous wars. The pope's inflexible opposition to abortion and birth control--the latter of which contributed to AIDS-related deaths in Africa--disappointed American liberals. There were no exceptions to his stance in favor of life. That's why it's called dogma.


    Nevertheless, John Paul II could only have been considered conservative by the standards of 1970s Catholicism. True, he slammed the brakes on the reform movement put into motion by the Second Vatican Council; he took women priests and celibacy off the table. He wrongly silenced priests who adhered to "liberation theology," the revival of Christ's instructions to defend the poor and oppressed by involving themselves in the struggle for economic and political justice. And his opposition to abortion put him in the same camp as those who wave photos of dead fetuses outside the grocery store.


    If John Paul II were an American politician, however, he would be considered a left-winger.


    The war against Iraq, Bush's biggest project? The pope was against it. On March 22, 2003, at the start of the invasion, he said: "Only peace is the road to follow to construct a more just and united society. Violence and arms can never resolve the problems of men." He criticized consumer capitalism's exploitation of women as part of a "culture of death."


    He came off as a rad-lib-com-symp during a 1999 visit to the United States: "My fervent prayer is that through the grace of God at work in the lives of Americans of every race, ethnic group, economic condition and creed, America will resist the culture of death and choose to stand steadfastly on the side of life. To choose life involves rejecting every form of violence: the violence of poverty and hunger which oppresses so many human beings; the violence of armed conflict, which does not resolve but only increases divisions and tensions; the violence of particularly abhorrent weapons such as anti-personnel mines; the violence of drug trafficking; the violence of racism; and the violence of mindless damage to the natural environment."


    How do Bush's Republicans stack up against the pope's 1999 definition of "stand[ing] steadfastly on the side of life"?


    They cut the budgets of anti-poverty programs, refused to ratify the 1997 Mine Ban Treaty and, in 2004, canceled a Clinton-era pledge to eliminate 8.4 million of the 10.4 million "particularly abhorrent...anti-personnel mines" in the U.S. arsenal. Bush claims the right to engage in "the violence of armed conflict" preemptively while offering no proof of an imminent threat. They replaced the Taliban, who eliminated opium poppy cultivation, with a puppet regime that has re-established Afghanistan as the world's largest narco-state, thus increasing "the violence of drug trafficking." Their homeland security goons have employed "the violence of racism" by throwing thousands of men into concentration camps based on their ethnic appearance rather than evidence of wrongdoing. What about "the violence of mindless damage to the natural environment"? Here's what the Natural Resources Defense Council says: "This administration, in catering to industries that put America's health and natural heritage at risk, threatens to do more damage to our environmental protections than any other in U.S. history."


    Americans who truly support the pope's call for a culture of life won't find a perfect match among either pro-abortion Democrats or pro-war, pro-death penalty Republicans. With the exception of abortion, however, on the big-ticket issues that mattered most to the pope, Catholicism's call for a culture of life is far closer on the ideological scale to Howard Dean than George W. Bush.


    (Ted Rall is the author of "Wake Up, You're Liberal!: How We Can Take America Back From the Right" and "Generalissimo El Busho: Essays and Cartoons on the Bush Years.")






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    I am sure you have had enough of Rall now,so I won't post anymore.. :)
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  • #2
    By and large, he was. Doctrinal stalwort certainly. The Catholic Church has not survived 2000 odd years by capitulating to moral fashions and whims. :)
    Where's the bloody gin? An army marches on its liver, not its ruddy stomach.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by MIKEMUN
      THE RIGHT VS. THE CULTURE OF LIFE

      Fri Apr 8, 1:40 AM ET Op/Ed - Ted Rall


      By Ted Rall

      Except for Abortion, The Pope Was a Liberal

      (snip)

      I am sure you have had enough of Rall now,so I won't post anymore.. :)
      So because Ted Rall wrote this, does that make it wrong? Except for abortion, Pope John Paul 2 had NOTHING in common with the conservative Christians who dominate the executive and judicial branches of the US government. Only complete hypocrites would show up for his funeral after totally ignoring his message of "love thy neighbor".

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Dave H
        So because Ted Rall wrote this, does that make it wrong?
        Almost always, yes. Rall is a clown. In this case he managed to crash his unicycle into a rather broad side of a rather broad barn.

        -dale

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Dave H
          Pope John Paul 2 had NOTHING in common with the conservative Christians who dominate the executive and judicial branches of the US government.
          How about homosexual marriage? BTW, how many of the people in the US government are actually Catholic?
          No man is free until all men are free - John Hossack
          I agree completely with this Administration’s goal of a regime change in Iraq-John Kerry
          even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act-John Kerry
          He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry

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          • #6
            Originally posted by The Chap
            By and large, he was. Doctrinal stalwort certainly. The Catholic Church has not survived 2000 odd years by capitulating to moral fashions and whims. :)
            Yeah, like those whims that the earth revolves around the sun and that evolution exists...

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            • #7
              Originally posted by barrowaj
              that evolution exists...
              I don't remember them saying evolution does not occur, just that it is not the true origins of life. If they stopped there they would technically be correct, as evolution doesn't have anything to do with an origin, but they go much farther than that. ;)
              No man is free until all men are free - John Hossack
              I agree completely with this Administration’s goal of a regime change in Iraq-John Kerry
              even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act-John Kerry
              He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry

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              • #8
                Originally posted by barrowaj
                Yeah, like those whims that the earth revolves around the sun and that evolution exists...
                I'm going to go out on a bit of a limb here - as those that are aquainted with previous posts know, I'm an atheist - and defend the Catholic Church.

                At the end of the day evolution is after all a theory. An excepionally elegant and empirically verifiable (to a greater extent) one; yet still that.

                As to the Copernican issue the Church of Rome, as opposed to the Papacy of France, at no point maintained that the Earth was the central pivot of the cosmos. I use "central pivot" advisedly, as the Ptolmeic model had been rejected in the mid. years of Byzantine supremacy. The issue was recalcitrance henceforth seized upon by any more "rational" factions of Christianity to justify the virtues of modernity. :)
                Where's the bloody gin? An army marches on its liver, not its ruddy stomach.

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