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    Israel condemns UK attempt to arrest Tzipi Livni

    Ms Livni was foreign minister during Israel's Cast Lead military operation
    Israel has condemned as "cynical" the issuing of a war crimes arrest warrant in the United Kingdom for former Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni.

    The warrant, issued by a London Court on Saturday, was revoked on Monday when it was found Ms Livni was not visiting the the UK.

    Ms Livni was in post during Israel's controversial Gaza assault last winter.

    It is the first time a UK court has issued a warrant for an Israeli former minister.

    Pro-Palestinian campaigners have tried several times to have Israeli officials arrested under the principle of universal jurisdiction.

    This allows domestic courts in countries around the world to try war crimes suspects, even if the crime took place outside the country and the suspect is not a citizen.

    Israel denies claims by human rights groups and the UN investigator Richard Goldstone that its forces committed war crimes during the operation, which it said was aimed at ending Palestinian rocket fire at its southern towns.

    The Palestinian militant group Hamas has also been accused of committing war crimes during the conflict.

    'Cynical act'

    "Israel rejects the cynical act taken in a British court," against Ms Livni, now the head of the opposition Kadima party, "at the initiative of extreme elements," Israel's foreign ministry said in a statement on Tuesday.

    It called on the British government to "act against the exploitation of the British legal system against Israel".


    Addressing a conference in Tel Aviv on Tuesday, Ms Livni did not refer specifically to the arrest attempt.

    But she said: "Israel must do what is right for Israel, regardless of judgements, statements and arrest warrants. It's the leadership's duty, and I would repeat each and every decision," Israeli media reported.

    Israel says it fully complies with international law, which it says it interprets in line with other Western countries such as the US and UK.

    On Monday Ms Livni's office denied the reports that a warrant had been issued and that she had cancelled plans to visit the UK because of fears of arrest.

    It said a planned trip had been cancelled two weeks earlier because of scheduling problems.

    'Strategic partner'

    The British foreign office said it was "urgently looking into the implications of the case".

    "The UK is determined to do all it can to promote peace in the Middle East, and to be a strategic partner of Israel," it said in a statement.

    PREVIOUS ATTEMPTS TO ARREST ISRAELI OFFICIALS
    October 2009: Former military chief Moshe Yaalon cancelled a UK visit because of fears of arrest for alleged war crimes
    October 2009: Filed attempt to raise warrant against Defence Minister Ehud Barak. Court ruled he had diplomatic immunity
    September 2005: Arrest warrant issued for a former head of Israeli forces in the Gaza Strip Gen Doron Almog. He received warning before disembarking from an aircraft at Heathrow Airport, and flew back to Israel
    "To do this, Israel's leaders need to be able to come to the UK for talks with the British government."

    Palestinians and human rights groups say more than 1,400 people were killed during Israel's Cast Lead operation between 27 December 2008 and 16 January 2009, more than half of them civilians.

    Israel puts the number of deaths at 1,166 - fewer than 300 of them civilians. Three Israeli civilians and 10 Israeli soldiers were also killed.

    The BBC's Tim Franks says that, privately, senior Israeli figures are warning of what they see as an increasing anti-Israeli bent in the British establishment.

    In turn, our correspondent adds, there is clearly concern among British officials that should further arrest warrants be issued, relations with Israel could be damaged.

    In October, Israeli minister and former military chief Moshe Yaalon cancelled a UK visit because of fears of arrest for alleged war crimes.

    Pro-Palestinian groups in Britain want Mr Yaalon to face trial over the 2002 killing of a Gaza militant, in which 14 others also died.

    A similar attempt a week earlier failed to get an arrest warrant issued for Israel's Defence Minister Ehud Barak.

    The court said he was accorded diplomatic immunity because of his official role.

    In 2005, an arrest warrant was issued for a former head of Israeli forces in the Gaza Strip, Major General Doron Almog, over the destruction of Palestinian homes.

    He received warning before disembarking from an aircraft at Heathrow Airport, and flew back to Israel, avoiding possible arrest.


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  • #2
    This is exactly why the Israeli PM and other Ministers are worried when they have no more immunity after they step down.
    Last edited by Merlin; 15 Dec 09,, 15:14.

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    • #3
      Wouldn't they get diplomatic immunity?

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      • #4
        They have no more diplomatic immunity 'after they step down'.

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        • #5
          it would set a huge precedent. Almost any senior British Minister could be arrested under universal jurisdiction too in that case.

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          • #6
            I think a judge has to accept the issue of such a warrant. After this, if the country affected is strong, it can apply diplomatic pressure on the issuing country to have the warrant withdrawn. If the country affect is weak, the other country would not care.

            Israel: British arrest warrant threatens ties
            1 hr ago [AP] JERUSALEM — An arrest warrant issued in Britain against Israel's former foreign minister was a "diplomatic offense" against the country, a Cabinet minister said Tuesday, warning that attempts in Britain to pursue war crimes charges against Israeli leaders was harming relations between the two countries.

            The minister, Yuli Edelstein, urged the British government to revise a law that has allowed Palestinians to try to go after Israelis in British courts for alleged crimes committed outside Britain.

            The law has caused several Israeli officials and retired military commanders to call off trips to Britain, and was most recently invoked to issue a warrant against former Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni. ....

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            • #7
              Lets turn this upside down....

              Hypothetically, say an Iraqi files a case in an Israeli court charging Blair of war crimes in the "illegal" invasion of Iraq. The Israeli court sees enough in the case to merit an indictment and issues a warrant for Blair. How would the British Government react?
              Totalitarianism-Feudalism in new garbs

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              • #8
                This is the first I have heard of this. Have the Brits gone effing insane? What the hell is this to accomplish?

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                • #9
                  More appeasement. Doubtful Israel would bomb the U.K. but Muslim extremest already have.
                  Removing a single turd from the cesspool doesn't make any difference.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by 7thsfsniper View Post
                    This is the first I have heard of this. Have the Brits gone effing insane? What the hell is this to accomplish?

                    I don't think there was a government decision. It was a judge who issued there warrant. If anything I think the British government would try to reverse this.

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                    • #11
                      The article itself says it clearly:

                      PREVIOUS ATTEMPTS TO ARREST ISRAELI OFFICIALS
                      October 2009: Former military chief Moshe Yaalon cancelled a UK visit because of fears of arrest for alleged war crimes
                      October 2009: Filed attempt to raise warrant against Defence Minister Ehud Barak. Court ruled he had diplomatic immunity
                      September 2005: Arrest warrant issued for a former head of Israeli forces in the Gaza Strip Gen Doron Almog. He received warning before disembarking from an aircraft at Heathrow Airport, and flew back to Israel

                      There have been a lot of attempts over the past couple years
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                      • #12
                        This news article below shows clearly the current British government's view on this matter.

                        British premier says Livni welcome
                        1 hr ago [AP] JERUSALEM — British Prime Minister Gordon Brown has phoned former Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni to say she is still welcome in Britain despite a warrant issued for her arrest.

                        Livni's office says the British premier phoned her Wednesday afternoon and said he intends to act to change a law that allows non-citizens to be brought before British courts.

                        A statement quoted Brown as saying Livni is welcome in Britain, regardless of the arrest attempt. ....

                        Several Israeli officials have canceled visits to Britain because of similar warrants issued through efforts by Palestinian activists. ...

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                        • #13
                          "...Livni's office says the British premier phoned her Wednesday afternoon and said he intends to act to change a law that allows non-citizens to be brought before British courts..."


                          Wouldn't it be much easier just to get rid of idiot judges that would issue such warrants?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by YellowFever View Post
                            "...Livni's office says the British premier phoned her Wednesday afternoon and said he intends to act to change a law that allows non-citizens to be brought before British courts..."
                            In the UK, as in other democracies, the judiciary is independent of the executive. And obviously in this case the judiciary and the executive do not see eye to eye. Thus, Gordon Brown's (The Executive's) attempt to stymie the Judiciary by attempting to change the law itself through the Legislative (The Parliament). Once the law is changed, the Judiciary will be forced to defend that (the changed) law.

                            The Muslim constituency has grown formidable in the UK to even have this brought to court.
                            Totalitarianism-Feudalism in new garbs

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by HillWarrior View Post
                              In the UK, as in other democracies, the judiciary is independent of the executive. And obviously in this case the judiciary and the executive do not see eye to eye. Thus, Gordon Brown's (The Executive's) attempt to stymie the Judiciary by attempting to change the law itself through the Legislative (The Parliament). Once the law is changed, the Judiciary will be forced to defend that (the changed) law.

                              The Muslim constituency has grown formidable in the UK to even have this brought to court.
                              I don't think it is just the Muslim community.

                              A great deal of the anti Israel sentiment comes from academia and the loony left.
                              IIRC, British academia have been the most vocal in demands for sanctions, boycotts etc against anything Israeli.
                              Then there is the loony left like MP George Galloway who would cheer anything remotely anti Israel.
                              The MSM (guardian) is also not shy about similar thoughts.

                              Cheers.

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