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gunnut
04 Dec 09,, 19:27
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U.S. to play England first at 2010 World Cup

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CAPE TOWN, South Africa - The United States will play England in its opener at next year’s World Cup.

The teams will meet in Rustenburg on June 12, their first World Cup matchup since the Americans’ 1-0 upset victory at the 1950 tournament in Brazil.

Mexico was drawn Friday to meet South Africa in the tournament opener on June 11 in Johannesburg.

The eyes of the soccer world were focused on Cape Town, with fans of 32 competing nations hoping for a kind draw at next year's World Cup.

Coaches, former soccer stars and celebrities were gathering for a draw ceremony to decide the eight groups of four teams.

Oscar-winning movie star Charlize Theron will help FIFA secretary general Jerome Valcke in a lavish ceremony due to start at noon ET.

Defending champion Italy, five-time winner Brazil and European champion Spain will be looking to avoid the sort of draw that makes it tough to get through the group phase. Teams from New Zealand to Mexico, Chile to North Korea, Slovakia to host South Africa will hope those conducting the draw will give them a chance of a place in the knockout phase.

The 32 nations in the draw have been split geographically into four pots which will eventually produce eight groups of four teams.

South Africa, as host, has been given one of the seeded positions along with Italy, Brazil, Spain, England, Germany, Netherlands and Argentina.

"Expectations are very high and this is the start of the World Cup for me and the other coaches involved," said South Africa coach Carlos Alberto Parreira, who led his native Brazil to the 1994 title and has coached at three other World Cups. "I have been involved in World Cup draws before. As Brazil's national coach, expectations were just as high but this one is extra special because we are the World Cup hosts."

The other three South American teams — Paraguay, Chile and two-time World Cup winner Uruguay — are also in the same pool so they can't meet in the first round. The same applies to the four Asian qualifiers, North Korea, South Korea, Japan and Australia. and Africa's other qualifiers, Nigeria, Ghana, Algeria, Ivory Coast and Cameroon.

The 13 European teams in the competition can't avoid each other altogether, but there can't be more than two in any group.

The second band of European teams — France, Portugal, Slovakia, Slovenia, Denmark, Switzerland, Greece and Serbia — are in the same pool. That has angered the French, who felt they should have been seeded after winning the title in 1998 and reaching the final four years ago.

Because France is in the European pot, there could be a repeat of the 2006 World Cup final in the group stage, with Italy possibly meeting the French.

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With the draw ceremony for the June 11-July 11 championship taking place and hundreds of delegates and officials from around the world gathering in Cape Town, the bidding nations for the World Cups in 2018 and 2022 are also taking the opportunity to impress observers.

David Beckham is one of the leading figures backing England's bid. But the 1966 hosts face opposition from the United States, Australia, Russia, Japan, Qatar, Indonesia, South Korea and joint bids from Spain-Portugal and Netherlands-Belgium.


I have no idea what this means, but it sounds important. :biggrin:

ArmchairGeneral
04 Dec 09,, 20:47
Bring it, England! Not a bad draw at all. Algeria and Slovenia won't be easy, but we've definitely got a chance to get out of the group.

Exarecr
04 Dec 09,, 21:09
I don,t want to rain on your parade,but....the fact still remains. Over 90% of North Americans,myself included, would rather watch water evaporate then take in a game of soccer. With the amount of diving and whine it shoulfd be a water sport.:biggrin:

Parihaka
04 Dec 09,, 21:27
I don,t want to rain on your parade,but....the fact still remains. Over 90% of North Americans,myself included, would rather watch water evaporate then take in a game of soccer. With the amount of diving and whine it shoulfd be a water sport.:biggrin:

It's never been about the game, which as you point out is as boring as watching paint dry (waterbased)

It's always been about what goes on in the stands
http://206.47.170.43/channels/images/ColumbiaSoccerRiot456.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/image/62718759.jpg

Mihais
04 Dec 09,, 21:43
BAhh,ignorant Americans that cannot understand the beauty of real FOOTBALL-not the chaotic brawl you call such.:tongue::biggrin:

p.s Personally I'd rather go on a hike than watch that thug fest-but the continent's honor must be defended.:biggrin:

gunnut
04 Dec 09,, 22:12
Soccer is a slower, less violent, and warmer version of hockey.

redco
04 Dec 09,, 22:15
I don,t want to rain on your parade,but....the fact still remains. Over 90% of North Americans,myself included, would rather watch water evaporate then take in a game of soccer.:
That's your loss, not ours ;)

For those North American's who do love Soccer its a good draw with a realistic chance of progression from the first stage :)

tankie
05 Dec 09,, 20:25
I always said the the yanks will win the world cup before us poms do again , but yer gonna get yer arses kicked this time around boyos :tongue: i notice the gal behind the one with allashowing is having a drooling glimpse :rolleyes:

rj1
10 Dec 09,, 00:56
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdj2zbMIOqU

YellowFever
10 Dec 09,, 21:50
Soccer is a slower, less violent, and warmer version of hockey.

No, hockey's actually watchable and there's a good chance that spectators actually survive in hockey. :))

tinymarae
11 Dec 09,, 09:01
:biggrin:

http://i.imgur.com/PfVPA.jpg


For the record I play soccer at my univ.

snowhole
11 Dec 09,, 09:23
Anyway this reassures high ESPN coverage.

Deltacamelately
11 Dec 09,, 09:51
Soccer is a slower, less violent, and warmer version of hockey.
No doubt we Indians like to play hockey, but have failed to teach the Brits who still love watching 11 buggers running after a single ball in a frenzy.:))

Chogy
11 Dec 09,, 13:55
[QUOTE=tinymarae;700178]:biggrin:

http://i.imgur.com/PfVPA.jpg

Handeggball is fine.... whatever. But the description of this photo should be:

"In this corner - Man with no arm muscles. His opponent - the Crushinator. Have at it gents."

Hmm, who would win? ;)

Tarek Morgen
11 Dec 09,, 15:23
if he is so tough why does he need all that armor for? Full Plate armor came out of style quite a few centuries ago over here.

Chogy
11 Dec 09,, 16:02
Without the "armor" (plastic pads), fully 1/2 of each team would be catastrophically injured each game. It would come to a grinding halt due to lack of players.

There are other "tough-guy" games. Rugby, especially. Aussie-rules football. Hockey, although they too wear protective gear.

It is simply cultural. Far more children play soccer here than football, but on the collegiate and professional level, soccer is simply not as popular as American football.

YellowFever
11 Dec 09,, 18:12
if he is so tough why does he need all that armor for? Full Plate armor came out of style quite a few centuries ago over here.

Because armor takes away the excuse for writhing around the ground like you just experienced the greatest pain of all time and being taken away on a stretcher and then trotting back on to the field 2 minutes later.

redco
12 Dec 09,, 04:25
I don,t want to rain on your parade,but....the fact still remains. Over 90% of North Americans,myself included, would rather watch water evaporate then take in a game of soccer. With the amount of diving and whine it shoulfd be a water sport.:biggrin:
Oddly enough, to date the largest number of World Cup match tickets sold to a nation outside South Africa is the USA with over 84,000 tickets already

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8397094.stm

rj1
19 Dec 09,, 22:43
Oddly enough, to date the largest number of World Cup match tickets sold to a nation outside South Africa is the USA with over 84,000 tickets already

BBC News - World Cup 2010: More tickets on sale for South Africa (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8397094.stm)

http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/blog.php?b=7253

Speaking of tickets,


The problem is that FIFA gives every federation with a team in the World Cup a very precisely calculated 9.8 percent of the tickets for each of their matches, meaning that North Korea will receive something over 17,000 ducats for the three preliminary rounds.

But of course North Korea is a country where a good portion of the population literally eats grass and twigs to try and keep from starving to death and, as a result, to quote a typically understated British travel agent, "there is not a great deal of vacation business in North Korea".

He could have added that even if every citizen was suddenly given a free plane ticket to someplace the government wouldn't let them leave anyway, on the not at all irrational theory that they wouldn't come back.

(It should be noted that Kim himself is, of course, PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE for the team qualifying in the first place. The head of the DPRK Fed says "The Great Leader gave in-depth guidance on the development of Korean football. He proposed the game's tactics".)

Reportedly Kim will be bringing along 200 or so of his most loyal, fawning, bootlicking, groveling serfs to watch the team play. The balance of the tickets will be sold on the black market where, seeing as how they share a group with Brazil and Portugal, they are expected to fetch a pretty decent price.

This of course will be in direct violation of FIFA bylaws, a fact which FIFA will unquestionably ignore.

To add to the sad irony of all of this, the luck of the draw has England playing in a couple of the smallest venues in the tournament while North Koreea will be in some of the largest. For this reason, the FA will be given roughly 2000 FEWER tickets than North Korea, which has no intention of putting actual North Koreans in those seats.

Something to think about when the TV cameras zoom in on the 200 person Korean cheering section in the stands and implies that they're a representative sample instead of the entire contingent.

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Nice sport and all, I only really care about the U.S. national team to be honest, but can we get rid of the corrupt people that run these organizations? It's an embarassment that these officials in FIFA expect to have their cocks sucked by the heads of governments.

Countezero
27 Dec 09,, 00:30
Without the "armor" (plastic pads), fully 1/2 of each team would be catastrophically injured each game. It would come to a grinding halt due to lack of players.

There are other "tough-guy" games. Rugby, especially. Aussie-rules football. Hockey, although they too wear protective gear.

It is simply cultural. Far more children play soccer here than football, but on the collegiate and professional level, soccer is simply not as popular as American football.

Yeah, but after playing both football and rugby I came to the conclusion that the majority of football's injuries occur precisely because they wear padding. The injuries would decline if the padding did.

The best example of this is the helmet to knee injuries you constantly see in the game. Those go away the moment you soften the helmet and take off the face-mask (which I never understood anyway). Nobody will stick their face into a knee then.

If you look at how shoulder pads have grown, it's ridiculous. Is the point protecting the shoulder or giving someone a device to pop people with? It's obviously the latter.


Oddly enough, to date the largest number of World Cup match tickets sold to a nation outside South Africa is the USA with over 84,000 tickets already

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8397094.stm

Not odd to me. I reckon a number of those are expatriates who have some change in their pocket. I doubt, in other words, it's Americans.

Woodsy the Lar
07 Jan 10,, 17:31
Why do you Americans call Football Soccer,isn´t Soccer something you Americans do to your wives on a Saturday night?:P

BenRoethig
19 Feb 10,, 16:38
Soccer is a slower, less violent, and warmer version of hockey.

Or Hockey is association football fixed.


Why do you Americans call Football Soccer?

Crap was already taken. Similar story to golf.


:biggrin:

http://i.imgur.com/PfVPA.jpg


For the record I play soccer at my univ.

Should have "whiner" under Beckham and "legend" under Emmitt