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xinhui
22 Jun 09,, 09:10
how wonderful life was

xinhui
22 Jun 09,, 09:11
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xinhui
22 Jun 09,, 09:12
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xinhui
22 Jun 09,, 09:12
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xinhui
22 Jun 09,, 09:13
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xinhui
22 Jun 09,, 09:20
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xinhui
22 Jun 09,, 09:21
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xinhui
22 Jun 09,, 09:21
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Inst
22 Jun 09,, 10:42
For some reason I have a fascination with the positive side of life in the now-deceased Soviet Union.

gabriel
22 Jun 09,, 11:01
My to, have a pic ;)

gabriel
22 Jun 09,, 11:22
One more from my country :cool:

gabriel
22 Jun 09,, 11:45
tHE younger generation :tongue:

Andrey Egorov
22 Jun 09,, 12:10
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Those buses were called cattle-movers and dustsuckers depending on region. Quite warm in Moscow winter and suffocating hot in summer. Petrol stench inside was almost unbearable sometimes. Friends from Siberia claim they were fridges in winter but still ovens in summer.

tankie
22 Jun 09,, 12:23
My to, have a pic ;)

Brill :cool::cool:

gabriel
22 Jun 09,, 13:17
Those buses were called cattle-movers and dustsuckers depending on region. Quite warm in Moscow winter and suffocating hot in summer. Petrol stench inside was almost unbearable sometimes. Friends from Siberia claim they were fridges in winter but still ovens in summer.

Hmm, your 2005-2008 pics don't cut it ...
We want prior to 1991 pics :P

SnowLeopard
22 Jun 09,, 13:23
I find the constant emphasis that man and wife is the only thing rather irritating.
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("I had never understood why one has to become emotional to show that they care or why they have to show it at all."--Avon, (wtte), Blake's 7 "Duel")

Andrey Egorov
22 Jun 09,, 14:32
Hmm, your 2005-2008 pics don't cut it ...
We want prior to 1991 pics :P

They haven't changed a bit until they were replaced in late 90s. :)) It's sort of museum pics, the buses were kept in original state without unnecessary restoration, as they were in our streets. The first one I've posted is from late 80s-early 90s I think, according to number plates.

BTW, at least one photo xinhui posted is from modern Russia. The one with blue labeled beer bottle in a shop. I can read the label easily - Baltika #3, one of cheapiest and crappiest beer in the world :)) Soviet shelves were much less filled.
http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/attachments/pics-videos/14960d1245655267-worker-s-paradise-53ae0b704587d918d68fe.jpg

Andrey Egorov
22 Jun 09,, 17:49
Here you are, '64, american tourists beign escorted through Russia :)) Does anyone know a thing about this?

xinhui
22 Jun 09,, 18:27
Those buses were called cattle-movers and dustsuckers depending on region. Quite warm in Moscow winter and suffocating hot in summer. Petrol stench inside was almost unbearable sometimes. Friends from Siberia claim they were fridges in winter but still ovens in summer.

thank you Sir, I will post more in few days. (need to dig up my archive)

Andrey Egorov
22 Jun 09,, 18:33
Jeez... by no means I'm "sir", Andrey is quite enough ;)

Here's another one coupled with modern version

Steezy
22 Jun 09,, 18:57
Don't make me shake my stick at those damn commies

Andrey Egorov
22 Jun 09,, 22:21
You're welcome at any time, sir! :))

xinhui
24 Jun 09,, 04:03
Here is more

xinhui
24 Jun 09,, 04:04
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xinhui
24 Jun 09,, 04:04
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xinhui
24 Jun 09,, 04:05
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xinhui
14 Jul 09,, 21:42
and this is how it ended, first McD opened in 1989

Andrey Egorov
13 Aug 09,, 18:36
Some pictures made by Marc Riboud in 60s

Andrey Egorov
13 Aug 09,, 18:39
and some more...

Andrey Egorov
13 Aug 09,, 18:41
and more...

Andrey Egorov
13 Aug 09,, 18:43
and more again...

Andrey Egorov
13 Aug 09,, 18:45
and again...

Andrey Egorov
13 Aug 09,, 18:47
and again

tim52
14 Aug 09,, 22:21
Looks like an old girlfriend of mine only more attractive. :biggrin:

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dundonrl
15 Aug 09,, 09:09
wish the USSR was still around, she kept the nations that are now flexing their strength around in check..

TopHatter
15 Aug 09,, 17:54
One thing conspicuously absent from practically all of those pictures: FOOD.

xinhui
04 Nov 09,, 01:25
Oh, Childhood Memories

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YellowFever
04 Nov 09,, 06:05
One thing conspicuously absent from practically all of those pictures: FOOD.




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texasjohn
05 Nov 09,, 04:58
Lol!:))

TopHatter
05 Nov 09,, 05:09
Man I remember that commercial so well! :))

I could even mimic the voice of the Soviet emcee "Is next...swimwear!" :redface:

Kodiakmarmoset
05 Nov 09,, 05:27
Having been to Russia many times and to many different places and studied their history I have to say that while the SU did many things wrong, they also did many things right.

It's quite amazing what they did after WWII, major portions of European Russia, Belarus and Ukraine were wastelands. Millions of homes were destroyed, the agricultural system nonfunctional. They rebuilt everything even while fighting a coldwar with an openly hostile and demented western agenda. Life was always tough. I think that the fact Russia still exists as a nation is a testament to the strength and character of the people. I admire them.

Looks to me like Yeller and Tophat are trying to corner the market on ignorance.

Kodiakmarmoset
05 Nov 09,, 05:38
http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc263/Scrat335/Russian%20Landscapes/7d6a72a6-662b-40cd-9a4b-649b95deb08.jpg

Kodiakmarmoset
05 Nov 09,, 05:39
http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc263/Scrat335/Russian%20Landscapes/1CAQL9HXQ.jpg

Kodiakmarmoset
05 Nov 09,, 05:40
http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc263/Scrat335/Russian%20Landscapes/1_024.jpg

Kodiakmarmoset
05 Nov 09,, 05:41
http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc263/Scrat335/Russian%20Landscapes/12.jpg

YellowFever
05 Nov 09,, 05:44
Having been to Russia many times and to many different places and studied their history I have to say that while the SU did many things wrong, they also did many things right.


Well having been to Russia once, let me tell you, the people were some of the nicest I've meet. The russian people have some of the best poetry and some of the best culture I have ever experienced.

Their government sucked...plain and simple.




It's quite amazing what they did after WWII, major portions of European Russia, Belarus and Ukraine were wastelands. Millions of homes were destroyed, the agricultural system nonfunctional.


Western Europe, just as devastated after the war, rebuilt faster, better and bigger than your vaunted Soviet Union.



They rebuilt everything even while fighting a coldwar with an openly hostile and demented western agenda. Life was always tough.


As TopHatter would say...."wow....just...wow."




I think that the fact Russia still exists as a nation is a testament to the strength and character of the people. I admire them.


Strength and testament to the people, YES but not to the system they had.




Looks to me like Yeller and Tophat are trying to corner the market on ignorance.

Two things;

1) Learn to take a frakking joke.

2) That commercial makes fun of the Soviet system and NOT the people.
Seems like you're looking into the ignorance market as well with intent to buy big.

TopHatter
05 Nov 09,, 05:44
Looks to me like Yeller and Tophat are trying to corner the market on ignorance.
Be real careful there pal. I don't take insults very gracefully.

You don't know me, you don't know jack sh-t about me except for a few posts on a message board.

But let's look at you and your idealized view of the Soviets, who were "fighting a coldwar with an openly hostile and demented western agenda"

Yes, the poor Soviet Union, who did nothing to deserve that openly hostile and demented attitude of the West in the postwar era.

Except...

How about three words: Iosef Vissarionovich Stalin.

How about three more words: Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact

My Czech roommate would probably have a couple more words, like Prague Spring.

His neighbors to the south could add a couple more: Hungarian Revolution of 1956.

Kodiakmarmoset
05 Nov 09,, 05:44
http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc263/Scrat335/Russian%20Army/1250003126985.jpg

Kodiakmarmoset
05 Nov 09,, 06:25
Be real careful there pal. I don't take insults very gracefully.

I have a very thick skin. I don't consider what I said an insult, it's a jibe, a poke in the arm. Not a right hook. If I insult someone "ignorance" is not a word I use.

I also see you're an administrator. Am I to take the above as an threat? If so I think you're on a power trip.

If you care to discuss this I would thank you to not put words in my mouth.


But let's look at you and your idealized view of the Soviets

When did I say that life in the SU was ideal? When did I say the SU was?

I'd be willing to discuss this with both of you. It will be rough and tumble though as I have been in many of these kerfuffles. I'm not going to waste time trying to be careful of hurting peoples feelings. If I think somebodies being stupid and ignorant I'll say it. I always do.

If you Tophatter can't deal with it, ban me now. I won't shed a tear.

YellowFever
05 Nov 09,, 06:31
I have a very thick skin. I don't consider what I said an insult, it's a jibe, a poke in the arm. Not a right hook. If I insult someone "ignorance" is not a word I use.

I also see you're an administrator. Am I to take the above as an threat? If so I think you're on a power trip.

If you care to discuss this I would thank you to not put words in my mouth.



When did I say that life in the SU was ideal? When did I say the SU was?

I'd be willing to discuss this with both of you. It will be rough and tumble though as I have been in many of these kerfuffles. I'm not going to waste time trying to be careful of hurting peoples feelings. If I think somebodies being stupid and ignorant I'll say it. I always do.

If you Tophatter can't deal with it, ban me now. I won't shed a tear.

What's to discuss?

I posted a video and you couldn't take the joke.

Want to discuss how you couldn't take a joke?

RustyBattleship
05 Nov 09,, 06:38
Having been to Russia many times and to many different places and studied their history I have to say that while the SU did many things wrong, they also did many things right.

It's quite amazing what they did after WWII, major portions of European Russia, Belarus and Ukraine were wastelands. Millions of homes were destroyed, the agricultural system nonfunctional. They rebuilt everything even while fighting a coldwar with an openly hostile and demented western agenda. Life was always tough. I think that the fact Russia still exists as a nation is a testament to the strength and character of the people. I admire them.

Looks to me like Yeller and Tophat are trying to corner the market on ignorance.

I know I'm going to get into a lot of trouble with a lot of friends on this forum for what I'm about to say. But I TOTALLY disagree with you claiming Yeller and Tophatter as IGNORANT.

You may have been there, but did you have to LIVE there? Yeller had an interesting point about no food showing. My wife is from Kaposvar, Hungary and she can pound you into the ground with her memories of lacking food.

Her grandfather owned one of the two major bakeries in Kaposvar and the farms that grew the grain. But the commies considered his house too big for one family so it was divided up into a commune. At least he was allowed to remain in the servant's quarters that afforded him a "private" bathroom. My wife, her brother, her little sister and their mother were "generously" given the store room to live in.

Back around the late seventies, her uncle came out to visit. He had a little more leeway in travel being a lawyer and the former commander of the Cavalry training school before the war. We had to do some shopping at Sears one day and we went down to the appliance section. He was completely awestruck by the sizes of refrigerators and freezers we Americans more or less take for granted.

In the communist governed countries (I don't capitalize "communist" as you may have noticed) the people had to shop for food every day. Those who had refrigerators were lucky though they were not much bigger than a filing cabinet. Others still had "Ice Boxes" and had to have ice delivered every day or so to keep food cold.

One evening my wife was peeling potatoes for dinner with a standard potato peeler (a small half tube with a slot in it that you can buy in any grocery store). He had never seen one before. So he bought a sack full of them to take back to Hungary for his family and as gifts for friends.

Oh yeah. The Russians made great advances in science, weapons technology, rocketry, and had great fun hiding behind an "iron curtain" -- but at the people's expense and sacrifice.

You say the Союз Советских Социалистических Республик kept the other countries in check? Yeah, as my wife remembers looking down the muzzle of a Russian tank on her way to school. And what about the Hungarian Revolution? And wasn't there one in another eastern block country a few years later?

How did they keep them in check? With T-34's and T-54's. I don't see anything to brag about with that method.

They also teased us with a false image of Russian women, such as the photo above of the one on the asphalt roller. In fact, some Russian women are quite beautiful such as the late Natasha Gurdin (better known as Natalie Wood). On Google you can now find tons of photos now of beautiful Russian, or Ukranian women. Why were the rulers trying to hide them all these years?

The only answer I can think of is that they wanted us to think they were all bulky and tough commandoes and not just like anybody else in the world.

Also the commies were trying to make fools of us and break our economy with counter weapon build up and space flights. But we still beat them to the Moon and when we reactivated four old WW II ships that made their Kirov class merely Harpoon and Tomahawk targets (or 16-inch high cap if close enough) was when the Russian people AND all the others in the Eastern block said "Достаточно - Достаточно" and down came the damn walls.

No, I don't speak Russian. I thank the English to Russian conversion dictionary on the Internet. If I sound over patriotic, good. Go to the header on the Naval thread and buy my book to see where I'm coming from. (Please buy through WAB - they get a few cents for each one sold).

YellowFever
05 Nov 09,, 06:44
I know I'm going to get into a lot of trouble with a lot of friends on this forum for what I'm about to say. But I TOTALLY disagree with you claiming Yeller and Tophatter as IGNORANT.

You may have been there, but did you have to LIVE there? Yeller had an interesting point about no food showing. My wife is from Kaposvar, Hungary and she can pound you into the ground with her memories of lacking food.


Gee....thanks Rusty! :tongue:

Kodiakmarmoset
05 Nov 09,, 06:47
It's my bedtime, I get up at 2am so I'll stop in tomorrow. :biggrin:

Parihaka
05 Nov 09,, 11:17
and more again...

Great photos Andrey, mind if I copy them?

Andrey Egorov
05 Nov 09,, 17:41
Great photos Andrey, mind if I copy them?

Certainly!

YellowFever
05 Nov 09,, 17:56
Certainly!

Andrey, an English lesson.

When Pari said "mind if I copy them?", he is asking if you object to him copying it. Your answer should have been, "no I don't mind".

When you say "certainly.", it actually mean you don't want him to copy it. I'm sure he knew what you meant though. :)

yes, Andrey......the English language sucks that way.....LoL.

Thankyou for the pictures and can I copy them as well?

Andrey Egorov
05 Nov 09,, 18:02
I had some doubts about the answer... :redface:

Surely you can do whatever you like with those pictures.

xinhui
05 Nov 09,, 18:19
well, this thread is for photos taken before 1989.......

Parihaka
05 Nov 09,, 21:32
I had some doubts about the answer... :redface:

Surely you can do whatever you like with those pictures.

Thanks Andrey:)

Ironduke
07 Nov 09,, 06:49
Man I remember that commercial so well! :))

I could even mimic the voice of the Soviet emcee "Is next...swimwear!" :redface:
Wow, that burger is incredibly small (by today's standards). Bet it was quite alot back then.

Ironduke
07 Nov 09,, 07:07
ban me now. I won't shed a tear.
Generally, ban-me-now talk is met with just that. Bye.

YellowFever
07 Nov 09,, 08:35
Wow, that burger is incredibly small (by today's standards). Bet it was quite alot back then.

I dunno Ironduke, when I first came to this country, the first place my aunt took me was to a Mickey D's and I remember I couldn't finish a big mac all the way through. Granted I was a bit smaller back then but I can wolf down three of them now without missing a beat.

Took me close to a year before I could finish a big mac or a whopper.

Those things look so small now. :(

TopHatter
07 Nov 09,, 16:22
Wow, that burger is incredibly small (by today's standards). Bet it was quite alot back then.
I hadn't thought about that...and consider the implications:
Portion control is one of the big reasons why Americans are so obese. :frown:


Generally, ban-me-now talk is met with just that. Bye.

I wasn't going to do it...cuz I hadn't taken my "power-trip pills" yet. :redface:

highsea
07 Nov 09,, 20:28
Here you are, '64, american tourists beign escorted through Russia :)) Does anyone know a thing about this?Andrey- those pictures are from a 1963-64 Around the World Caravan of Airstream travel trailers. Part of the trip retraced the route of Marco Polo. The caravan consisted of 47 trailers and 105 people, and lasted about a year.

Your pics were originally published in Life magazine. There was also a book written about it called "Thank You Marco Polo".

Airstream clubs today still conduct these tours, and owners travel all over the world with their beloved Airstreams. :)

Parihaka
07 Nov 09,, 21:56
I hadn't thought about that...and consider the implications:
Portion control is one of the big reasons why Americans are so obese. :frown:



I wasn't going to do it...cuz I hadn't taken my "power-trip pills" yet. :redface:

I've despatched some more in the mail,along with cheetos. Power-trip pills are an essential component of any healthy moderators breakfast.

Andrey Egorov
08 Nov 09,, 00:00
Highsea, thank you, very interesting

BD1
08 Nov 09,, 09:24
post #42 - isn´t it one of the old pre-WW1 pictures of Sergey Prokrudin-Gorski ?
Architecture - The Empire That Was Russia: The Prokudin-Gorskii PhotographicRecord Recreated (A Library of Congress Exhibition) (http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/empire/architecture.html)

BD1
08 Nov 09,, 09:39
Nõmme Road , Tallinn?
i think i live about 300 metres from this place. I try to take a picture of the same place

BD1
08 Nov 09,, 19:40
i took this picture in August i think. The pic is taken on pedestrian bridge, which is built over the spot kids are crossing the road.

xinhui
22 Jan 10,, 06:16
1955

xinhui
22 Jan 10,, 06:17
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xinhui
17 May 10,, 01:20
Khrushchyovka housing!