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    Obama to Iran: 'new beginnings' message


    WASHINGTON – US President Barack Obama sought to slash through decades of distrust and animosity on Friday and launched an historic appeal directly to the Iranian people, urging a resolution of differences and an "honest" engagement with Tehran.

    In one of the most decisive foreign policy statements of his young tenure, Obama said Washington was committed to pursuing "constructive ties" with the Islamic republic and that Tehran could take its "rightful place" in the world if it renounced terror and embraced peace.

    "My administration is now committed to diplomacy that addresses the full range of issues before us, and to pursuing constructive ties among the United States, Iran and the international community," Obama said in the message marking the start Friday of Nowruz, the Iranian New Year.

    "For nearly three decades relations between our nations have been strained," he said. "But at this holiday we are reminded of the common humanity that binds us together."

    The two nations have not had diplomatic ties since 1980.

    Calling the Nowruz celebrations a time of "new beginnings", Obama said he wanted "to speak clearly to Iran's leaders" about the need for a new era of "engagement that is honest and grounded in mutual respect."

    Without specifically restating US allegations of Iran's support of terrorist activities or its nuclear program which Washington accuses Tehran of pursuing for the last several years, Obama said "the United States wants the Islamic Republic of Iran to take its rightful place in the community of nations."

    "You have that right -- but it comes with real responsibilities, and that place cannot be reached through terror or arms, but rather through peaceful actions that demonstrate the true greatness of the Iranian people and civilization.

    "And the measure of that greatness is not the capacity to destroy, it is your demonstrated ability to build and create."

    Nevertheless, Obama's address clearly signaled his administration's recognition of Iran as a potential negotiating partner, even though the two countries have not had diplomatic relations since 1980, and that even Obama has declined to take the military option off the table as a way of preventing Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons.

    By vowing to commit to renewed diplomacy with Tehran, Obama was following up on a key campaign pledge to engage with Washington's adversaries -- and recalling his January 20 inaugural address in which he promised the Muslim world he would "extend a hand if you are willing to unclench your fist."

    The comment prompted a swift response from Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who encouraged Obama to embark on meetings with adversaries but urged him to "put an end to the expansionist policies" of the United States.

    "If you talk about change it must put an end to the US military presence in the world, withdraw your troops and take them back inside your borders," Ahmadinejad said.

    Obama's landmark video statement marked a stunning drawback from the aggressive rhetoric of his predecessor George W. Bush, who famously lumped Iran into an "Axis of Evil" with Syria and North Korea.

    It is also a tacit recognition that Tehran is a key player in several hot-button issues for the United States, including how Washington extricates itself from Iraq, US efforts to tamp down a resurgent Taliban in Afghanistan, and progress on the longstanding Middle East conflict between Israel and its Arab neighbors.

    The White House said a version of the video with Farsi subtitles was distributed to news outlets in the region Friday and would air at approximately 8:00 am Iran time.

    An online version would also carry English and Farsi captions, it said.

    In Obama's apparent olive branch, he described a sought-for future of renewed exchanges and "greater opportunities for partnership and commerce.

    "It's a future where the old divisions are overcome, where you and all of your neighbors and the wider world can live in greater security and greater peace."
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    It is a broadcast targetted to both the Iranian leadership and Iranian people. This means it'll also have influence over the coming Iranian election outcome.

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    • #3
      A young blogger arrested in Iran for allegedly insulting supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei in an Internet posting has died in prison, his attorney said Friday.
      The blogger had been jailed for allegedly insulting Ayatollah Ali Khamenei in an internet posting.
      Attorney Mohammad Ali Dadkhah said Omid Mir Sayafi, reported to be in his 20s, died in Evin prison, which is located in Tehran and known for its wing that holds political prisoners.
      Dadkhah said a fellow inmate, Dr. Hessam Firouzi, called him Wednesday night with the news -- and said he believed Sayafi would have lived if he received proper medical care.
      Dadkhah said Firouzi, an imprisoned human-rights activist, said that he carried a semi-conscious Sayafi to a prison doctor but that he didn't receive the care he needed.
      "It was Dr. Firouzi's opinion that if he would've received proper medical attention, he would not have died," Dadkhah said.
      He said Sayafi was buried on Thursday and that his calls to the prison asking for an explanation have not been returned.
      Dadkhah said Sayafi "sounded OK" at about 2 p.m. on Wednesday when he last spoke to him by telephone. He said the blogger asked for a book about Nowruz, the Iranian New Year, which begins Friday.

      The International Campaign for Human Rights in Iran, which advocates for activists in the country, quoted Firouzi on its Web site as saying Sayafi suffered from depression and had taken extra doses of medication on Wednesday.

      The group blamed Iran's government for unsafe conditions in its prisons.

      "Iranian leaders have relegated the administration of the prison system to a group of incompetent and cruel officials who are showing their utter disregard for human life," said Hadi Ghaemi, spokesman for the campaign. "If the authorities do not move quickly to hold negligent officials responsible, they are reinforcing impunity and the lack of accountability."

      Sayafi was first arrested in April, then released for 41 days before being arrested again. He was sentenced to 2½ years in prison for comments on a blog that his lawyer argued was intended only for a few friends to read.

      This certainly wont help the siitng regime to retain power.

      *Many bitched about the man that threw the shoes at Bush and got three years in prison for insulting a head of state. Bet he is glad now only to get three years but he still lives.;)
      Fortitude.....The strength to persist...The courage to endure.

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      • #4
        *Many bitched about the man that threw the shoes at Bush and got three years in prison for insulting a head of state. Bet he is glad now only to get three years but he still lives.
        gee, i'd certainly hope that by now we'd have higher standards of comparison than theocratic iran for our venture in iraq.
        There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."- Isaac Asimov

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Merlin View Post
          It is a broadcast targetted to both the Iranian leadership and Iranian people. This means it'll also have influence over the coming Iranian election outcome.
          I notice on the same day there is also an Israeli taped message to Iran, see below.

          While it is good for more western leaders to send such messages to Iran. The fact that they are issued on the same day does water down the effect of the Obama message, and cause many in Iran to see that the west are all out to influence the Iranian national election.

          Obama and Israeli leader make taped appeals to Iran

          Mar 21, 2009 WASHINGTON: The groundbreaking message to Iran that President Barack Obama delivered by videotape on Friday was part of a strategy intended to emphasize a positive message to Iran in the prelude to that nation's presidential election this summer, according to administration officials and European diplomats. ...

          The Israeli government also sent a New Year's message to the Iranian people on Friday, although administration officials and Israeli officials insisted that the gestures were not part of a coordinated plan. ...

          Some experts said the fact that the American message was sent on the same day as Israel's had the potential to dilute the effect of Obama's message, by linking it to Israel, whose government has been much more hostile toward Iran. ...

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          • #6
            Khameini's Response to Obama

            You change, our behaviour will change: Iran to US

            21 Mar 2009, 2011 hrs IST, REUTERS

            TEHRAN: Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said on Saturday US President Barack Obama's offer of better ties was just a "slogan", but
            pledged Tehran would respond to any real policy shift by Washington.

            Speaking a day after Obama's videotaped overture, Khamenei, Iran's most powerful figure with final say on all matters of state, said he saw no such change yet from the United States.

            But he added: "You change, our behaviour will change." Sharply criticising US actions towards Iran since its 1979 Islamic revolution which toppled the US-backed shah, he said the United States was "hated in the world" and should stop interfering in other countries' internal affairs.

            "They give the slogan of change but in practice no change is seen ... We haven't seen any change," Khamenei said.

            Iran and the United States have not had diplomatic ties for three decades and are now embroiled in a dispute over Tehran's nuclear work, which the West suspects is aimed at making bombs. The Islamic Republic denies the charge.

            In a major shift from the approach of his predecessor George W Bush, who branded Iran part of an "axis of evil" and spearheaded a drive to isolate it, Obama has talked of extending a hand of peace to Tehran if it "unclenches its fist".

            On Friday, the US president offered a "new beginning" of diplomatic engagement between the two old foes.

            Khamenei said a change of US "words" was not enough and that Obama had "insulted" Iran and its government immediately after taking office, without elaborating.
            Lets see what the counter-response is......
            Everyone has opinions, only some count.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Kommunist View Post
              Lets see what the counter-response is......
              On the face of it Iran is saying nothing at all. They want the US to make the first move.

              This is actually very profound though. This is Iran, "axis of evil", supporter of terror etc saying that they will change their policies if the US does. Iran could have easily rejected any such proposal out of hand. That the Iranian government is openly contemplating such an action is a pretty big deal.

              Makes me wonder what the average Iranian citizen thinks of the situation.
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              • #8
                The "new beginning" may be due to this.

                http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/12/wa...?_r=1&ref=asia

                The United States is seeking new supply routes for the war in Afghanistan that would bypass Russia, and has even had logistics experts review overland roads through Iran that might be used by NATO allies, according to military planners and Pentagon officials.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by n21 View Post
                  The "new beginning" may be due to this.

                  http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/12/wa...?_r=1&ref=asia
                  I kinda doubt it. Obama has been talking about taking a different approach to Iran since during his campaign. The US is facing supply difficulties for its forces in Afghanistan... but I just don't see them shipping their stuff through Iran. An unstable Pakistan and a belligerent Russia may not be ideal, but Iran is so fundamentally opposed to the US that I don't think they could risk being dependent on them. And this would take a major thaw in relations, like the lifting of sanctions for the Iranians to even consider accepting such a deal.

                  We'll see though.
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                  • #10
                    Iran has made its counter move, not really a rebuff. It is like a chess game. There'll be many moves from both sides, hopefully based on mutual respect.

                    Iran sets terms for U.S. ties

                    Mar 22, 2009 TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran has responded to U.S. President Barack Obama's offer of better relations by demanding policy changes from Washington, but the Islamic state is not closing the door to a possible thaw in ties with its old foe.

                    Iran wants the United States to show concrete change in its behavior toward it, for example by handing back frozen assets, but Tehran is not pursuing "eternal hostility," said Professor Mohammad Marandi at Tehran University.

                    "I think they (the Iranian leadership) are quite willing to have better relations if the Americans are serious," said Marandi, who heads North American studies at the university. ...

                    ... Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who has final say on all matters of state, also added in his speech at Iran's most prominent religious shrine in the northeastern city of Mashhad: "You change, our behavior will change." ...
                    Last edited by Merlin; 23 Mar 09,, 02:11.

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                    • #11
                      More sparring. Neither party wants to make the first move, for fear of being seen as soft on an enemy. Just talks would be a good first step, doesn't really commit either nation to anything.

                      edit:

                      Maybe I should read the entire article before I respond.

                      Analysts have said Iran is setting tough conditions for dialogue to buy time. Adding to uncertainty, it holds a presidential election in June that could strengthen moderate voices backing detente over more hardline opponents.
                      Pretty well sums up the situation.
                      Last edited by Traxus; 23 Mar 09,, 03:51.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Traxus View Post
                        I kinda doubt it. Obama has been talking about taking a different approach to Iran since during his campaign. The US is facing supply difficulties for its forces in Afghanistan... but I just don't see them shipping their stuff through Iran. An unstable Pakistan and a belligerent Russia may not be ideal, but Iran is so fundamentally opposed to the US that I don't think they could risk being dependent on them. And this would take a major thaw in relations, like the lifting of sanctions for the Iranians to even consider accepting such a deal.

                        We'll see though.
                        Well there are more reports been "leaked" regarding the Iranian route.
                        You may want to read the complete report.

                        The Australian newspaper generally reports quite well in matters of Afghanistan.
                        http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...-15084,00.html

                        .....
                        Iran had quietly allowed NATO to use its airspace in the early stages of the offensive against the Taliban, he said.

                        A senior State Department official confirmed Washington was interested in gaining US access to a strategic route that crosses Iranian territory and was already being used by some of Tehran's allies.

                        India has built a road between the Afghan cities of Delaram and Zaranj, which is on the border with Iran, to provide supplies and commercial goods to Afghanistan without going through its arch-enemy Pakistan.

                        The Iranians "already provide a route for Indian assistance and some other supplies that go up to Afghanistan", the senior US official said. The route from Chabahar links with the Indian road.

                        Iran had indicated in recent months "there were some NATO countries that might even provide supplies through that route", the official said.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by astralis View Post
                          gee, i'd certainly hope that by now we'd have higher standards of comparison than theocratic iran for our venture in iraq.
                          Its not our call its the Iraqi's.;)
                          Fortitude.....The strength to persist...The courage to endure.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Kommunist View Post
                            Lets see what the counter-response is......
                            If I was Obama I'd say "then step down and let change occur":P:))
                            Fortitude.....The strength to persist...The courage to endure.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by n21 View Post
                              Well there are more reports been "leaked" regarding the Iranian route.
                              You may want to read the complete report.

                              The Australian newspaper generally reports quite well in matters of Afghanistan.
                              http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...-15084,00.html
                              Hmm. It would be great if some sort of deal could be reached. This would go a long way to preventing a war between the US and Iran, and certainly would allow the thawing of diplomatic and economic relations.
                              Smells like napalm, tastes like chicken!

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