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    In the news today .

    Queen Elizabeth II escaped possible assassination in Australia nearly 40 years ago when plotters tried to derail her train in mountains near Sydney, a retired detective has claimed.

    * Queen escaped Australian train assassination plot

    Former detective superintendent Cliff McHardy said a large wooden log was placed on the winding track in front of the train carrying the monarch and her husband Prince Philip to the town of Orange on April 29, 1970.

    The royal train hit the log at Bowenfels in the Blue Mountains, 93 miles northwest of Sydney, but failed to shoot off the tracks and into an embankment as it was going too slowly at the time.

    "They put a log on the line, about six or seven feet long," McHardy, now 81, told Australian commercial radio on Wednesday.

    "The royal train hit it and dragged it about 150 metres up towards the Bowenfels railway station... but fortunately it didn't derail," he said.

    Railway specialists told police at the time that the queen was only saved from catastrophe because her train was not travelling at full speed.

    "According to the experts, if he (the driver) had been doing maximum speed he would have derailed," McHardy said.

    The train continued on under brakes, with the log still wedged under the front wheels, before finally coming to a halt at the level crossing near the station.

    The locomotive remained on the tracks and escaped serious damage, while the log did not splinter upon impact, but just suffered deep indentations from the train's wheels, the retired policeman said.

    McHardy, who was a detective sergeant at the time, said he was breaking his silence on the alleged plot, which he said has been kept under wraps for nearly four decades, in a bid to flush out information on the culprits, who were never arrested.

    "It was one of the big regrets of my police service," McHardy told his local newspaper, the Lithgow Mercury.

    "We never came up with any decent suspects because if we interviewed people we seemed to be talking in riddles. We couldn't disclose what our inquiries were about" because of the secrecy, he said.

    Among those targeted in the investigation were suspected sympathisers of the Irish Republican Army, which was waging a violent struggle against British rule in Northern Ireland at the time, McHardy told the Mercury.

    McHardy, who later went on to head the police force in the town of Lithgow, could not immediately be reached for comment by AFP.

    The queen, who had just turned 44, and her party continued on their journey from Sydney to the New South Wales town of Orange after the incident.

    McHardy insists the incident could not have been an accident or simple vandalism as the log was rolled down an embankment and placed on the tracks after a special locomotive had swept the tracks for security, but before the royal train passed.

    "It had to be (deliberate) because it was pitch dark and the pilot train went through only an hour before" and there was nothing on the tracks, he told Macquarie radio.

    The heavy veil of secrecy that was drawn across the incident to protect the Australian government from embarrassment hindered the investigation, he said. "Perhaps now that the story has gone public someone might come forward," McHardy said.

    Reports in Britain said the queen and her husband had remained unaware of the dramatic incident.

    A Buckingham Palace spokeswoman said: "We wouldn't comment on an alleged plot that happened 39 years ago."

    A spokesman for the Australian Federal Police said the agency was checking its archives for details of the alleged plot.

    The New South Wales police declined to confirm the incident had occurred as officers were still checking decades-old records.

    "What I can say is that the alleged matter is no longer being actively investigated. However, if new information does come forward we will follow it up," a police spokeswoman said.


    Its not the first time some arseholes have tried to kill her .

    looking at the cannibal thread they must have been after Phillip for a Kebab nosh up .
    Last edited by tankie; 28 Jan 09,, 13:09.

  • #2
    God save the queen.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Mobbme View Post
      God save the queen.
      Too true mate , too true ;)

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Mobbme View Post
        God save the queen.
        Scatter her enemies,
        And make them fall.
        Confound their politics,
        Frustrate their knavish tricks

        (Out of order I know, but still its fitting. Especially the last line)
        Nulli Secundus
        People always talk of dying for their country, and never of making the other bastard die for his

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        • #5
          Damn Australian IRA sympathisers.

          I don't understand the support a terrorist organisation like the IRA has in places like Australia and Boston.

          How would the Australians, Bostonians or other Western people like it if the British sympathised with Al Qaeda?

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          • #6
            God Save The Queen

            God save our gracious Queen,
            Long live our noble Queen,
            God save the Queen!
            Send her victorious,
            Happy and Glorious,
            Long to reign over us;
            God save the Queen!


            O Lord our God arise,
            Scatter her enemies
            And make them fall;
            Confound their politics,
            Frustrate their knavish tricks,
            On Thee our hopes we fix,
            Oh, save us all!


            Thy choicest gifts in store
            On her be pleased to pour;
            Long may she reign;
            May she defend our laws,
            And ever give us cause
            To sing with heart and voice,
            God save the Queen!


            Not in this land alone,
            But be God's mercies known,
            From shore to shore!
            Lord make the nations see,
            That men should brothers be,
            And form one family,
            The wide world o'er!

            From every latent foe,
            From the assassin's blow,
            God save the Queen!
            O'er her thine arm extend,
            For Britain's sake defend,
            Our mother, prince, and friend,
            God save the Queen!

            In love's endearments fond,
            In wedlock's holy bond,
            Blest be our Queen.
            In her blest progeny,
            We future Monarchs see,
            Of England bold and free,
            God save the Queen!

            Lord let wars' tempest cease;
            Fold the whole world in peace
            Under thy wings.
            Make all the nations one;
            All hearts beneath the sun;
            Till Thou shalt reign alone;
            Great King of Kings.



            Verses written for the Jubilee of Queen Victoria

            Lift we both heart and voice
            With one accord rejoice
            On this glad day.
            On our Queen's Jubilee
            Bend we to God the knee
            Singing right heartily
            God save the Queen.

            God hear our nation's prayer
            Safe in Thy loving care,
            Guard Thou our Queen.
            Ruler of earth and sea,
            Through all eternity
            In one blest Jubilee
            Keep Thou our Queen.



            Verses written for the marriage of the Prince of Wales and Princess Alexandra in 1863

            Our Albert Edward bless!
            And grant him happiness!
            God bless the Prince!
            Mercies his path surround;
            Peace in his time abound;
            With every virtue crowned!
            Long live the Prince!

            Great God! Thy blessings all
            On Alexandra fall!
            Be thou her guide!
            Whom loved Victoria's smile,
            And British hearts, the while
            Welcome in Albion's Isle;
            God bless the Bride!

            Sovereign, of Power Divine!
            In Heaven's most holy shrine
            Confirm the Troth;
            Plighted 'twixt England's Heir,
            And Denmark's Daughter Fair.
            God bless the Royal pair!
            God bless them both!



            Canadian verse (date unknown)

            Our loved Dominion Bless
            With peace and happiness
            From shore to shore
            And let our Empire be
            Loyal, united, free,
            True to herself and thee
            For evermore.



            Verse written against the Jacobites

            Lord grant that Marshal Wade
            May by thy mighty aid
            Victory bring.
            May he sedition hush,
            And like a torrent rush,
            Rebellious Scots to crush.
            God save the King

            This number is actually the royal or national anthem of roughly a dozen countries the world over, not to mention the "Empire" & "Commonwealth".
            :)
            "If we will not be governed by God then we will be ruled by tyrants" -William Penn

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Blackleaf View Post
              Damn Australian IRA sympathisers.

              I don't understand the support a terrorist organisation like the IRA has in places like Australia and Boston.

              How would the Australians, Bostonians or other Western people like it if the British sympathised with Al Qaeda?
              Just to add some ice into the fire - there is nothing that anyone has provided to date to support this blokes claims.

              So at this stage it's premature to say who (if any) had a go at her. 40 years ago Aust was far less republican spirited.

              Patience might be the proper virtue here as it may well be much ado about naught
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              • #8
                If anyone deserves saving it's the Queen and God's the very fellow to do it.

                Billy Connelly
                In the realm of spirit, seek clarity; in the material world, seek utility.

                Leibniz

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                • #9
                  I'd add that the far easier targets were Charles and Di in the early 80's when they did their regional tour of some australian country towns. eg when they got off the plane at Port Pirie there was virtually no security - and it was a country airport with low fencing (1.5 ft cyclone fencing) and the entire perimeter was wide open - anyone with an SLR type weapon could have shot both of them and not been picked up in time.

                  So, a "two for one" shot would have been far easier to achieve and caused just as much fallout (so to speak)

                  I'm reserving judgment, but I have a doubt as to the completeness of the story.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by gf0012-aust View Post
                    I'd add that the far easier targets were Charles and Di in the early 80's when they did their regional tour of some australian country towns. eg when they got off the plane at Port Pirie there was virtually no security - and it was a country airport with low fencing (1.5 ft cyclone fencing) and the entire perimeter was wide open - anyone with an SLR type weapon could have shot both of them and not been picked up in time.

                    So, a "two for one" shot would have been far easier to achieve and caused just as much fallout (so to speak)

                    I'm reserving judgment, but I have a doubt as to the completeness of the story.
                    It easy to check out the authenticity of the :story: but the comparison to to C, and D , is not really relavent in this case ,as diania was a young woman in her mams arms ;)

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by tankie View Post
                      It easy to check out the authenticity of the :story: but the comparison to to C, and D , is not really relavent in this case ,as diania was a young woman in her mams arms ;)
                      True, but shootings are always intended to be replete with symbolism. Knocking off the 1st heir and his wife would have been very symbolic
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by gf0012-aust View Post
                        True, but shootings are always intended to be replete with symbolism. Knocking off the 1st heir and his wife would have been very symbolic
                        Yes it would .

                        have a nice day

                        ;)
                        Last edited by tankie; 29 Jan 09,, 09:23.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Blackleaf View Post
                          Damn Australian IRA sympathisers.

                          I don't understand the support a terrorist organisation like the IRA has in places like Australia and Boston.

                          How would the Australians, Bostonians or other Western people like it if the British sympathised with Al Qaeda?
                          I hate them (the IRA supporters) just as much as the next sane man and would be perfectly happy to see them hung, drawn and quartered but this incident could well have had nothing to do with them. Can't pin the blame for this one on em unless there is proof.
                          Nulli Secundus
                          People always talk of dying for their country, and never of making the other bastard die for his

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by tankie View Post
                            Yes it would , but the thread and post is about

                            HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN 40 years ago

                            And ps ,, it was not a shooting , or was it , so what do you know: rolleyes :

                            have a nice day

                            ;)
                            I think we're suffering from a loss in translation here or are you getting snippy??

                            I'm aware that it was HM and that it was 40 years ago. My point was that if they wanted an easy hit on the royal family in Oz (over the years - not just then), then a hit on charles and di in the early 80's was a much easier thing to achieve.

                            I was on relief in Pt Pirie when they did their tour - I remember there being bugger all security and thinking how easy it would have been to knock them off.

                            as for the Lithgow event, the claimant is stating that some of his claims can be supported by the police station logs. NSW Police have already indicated that from their perspective, because it was 40 years ago, its a non event.

                            The claim is that someone placed a log on the track to derail her train.
                            1) the line had a cow catcher sweeper go through hours before and there was nothing on it
                            2) it was a remote piece of area - implying that access was easier for those with intent
                            3) that because it was an uphill gradient, the train was going slow enough to nudge it along - and hence not fast enough to go bang and derail
                            4) that the loc was an area that if the train had derailed then it would have gone over the cliff and everyone would have perished

                            thats what I know :)
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                            • #15
                              Its not the first time some arseholes have tried to kill her .
                              This is the first time I have ever heard of such an attempt. Would you have any information about the other attempts?

                              I heard that their is always at least two Met Police Royalty Protection Branch officers with H&K MP5 submachine guns outside her bedroom door every night. I would imagine the security for the Royal Family approaches the level of our US Secret Service and that it would be pretty hard to knock them off.

                              I don't understand the support a terrorist organisation like the IRA has in places like Australia and Boston.
                              A terrorist is a terrorist and if I was in charge all those Americans would be arrested and interrogated and any information would be forwarded to Met Police Special Branch and the RUC/PSNI.

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