To all Wabber's, Page (1)
It's been good, then again it's been interesting.
When I first ran across this forum I had an idealist heart. Believing I could make a difference in our world by reasoning and commonsense.
The endless debate seems many times to be a lesson in futility. Don't get me wrong, I am for discussion and reasoning.
We all come to the table fairly convinced of our positions. I am not immune to this phenomena myself. Nor am I much changed in my opinion.
Well then, the Ecclesiastical quotes ring even more true:
Ecc.(Kohelet) 1:2) Pointless! Pointless!-says Kohelet-Utterly meaningless! Nothing matters!
" "1:3) What does a person gain from all his labor at which he toils under the sun?
" "1:4) Generations come, generations go, but the earth remains forever.
Ecc." " 3:1) For everything there is a season, a right time for every intention under heaven-
2) a time to be born and a time to die, a time to plant and a time to uproot,
3) a time to kill and a time to heal, a time to tear down an a time to build,
4) a time to weep and a time to laugh, a time to mourn and a time to dance,
5) a time to throw stones and a time to gather stones, atime to embrace and a time to refrain,
6) a time to search and a time to give up, a time to keep and a time to disgard,
7) a time to tear and a time to sew, a time to keep silent and a time to speak,
8) a time to love and a time to hate, a time for war and a time for peace.
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I will pray for all of you, for God to reveal Himself to you and bless you beyond your expectations. There are many pressing issues we all see in our world today. Problems of which seem no clear answers. I will go to God for clarity on our behalf.
Our days on earth have always been numbered. Things have not changed. I encourage you all to seek to make a better life for your childrens future.
God loves you all...In Christ Jesus love I wish to love you.
Good Bye, Ivan 11-25-07
It's been good, then again it's been interesting.
When I first ran across this forum I had an idealist heart. Believing I could make a difference in our world by reasoning and commonsense.
The endless debate seems many times to be a lesson in futility. Don't get me wrong, I am for discussion and reasoning.
We all come to the table fairly convinced of our positions. I am not immune to this phenomena myself. Nor am I much changed in my opinion.
Well then, the Ecclesiastical quotes ring even more true:
Ecc.(Kohelet) 1:2) Pointless! Pointless!-says Kohelet-Utterly meaningless! Nothing matters!
" "1:3) What does a person gain from all his labor at which he toils under the sun?
" "1:4) Generations come, generations go, but the earth remains forever.
Ecc." " 3:1) For everything there is a season, a right time for every intention under heaven-
2) a time to be born and a time to die, a time to plant and a time to uproot,
3) a time to kill and a time to heal, a time to tear down an a time to build,
4) a time to weep and a time to laugh, a time to mourn and a time to dance,
5) a time to throw stones and a time to gather stones, atime to embrace and a time to refrain,
6) a time to search and a time to give up, a time to keep and a time to disgard,
7) a time to tear and a time to sew, a time to keep silent and a time to speak,
8) a time to love and a time to hate, a time for war and a time for peace.
Page (2)
I will pray for all of you, for God to reveal Himself to you and bless you beyond your expectations. There are many pressing issues we all see in our world today. Problems of which seem no clear answers. I will go to God for clarity on our behalf.
Our days on earth have always been numbered. Things have not changed. I encourage you all to seek to make a better life for your childrens future.
God loves you all...In Christ Jesus love I wish to love you.
Good Bye, Ivan 11-25-07
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