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Shadowsided
26 Oct 07,, 00:15
Alright I just wanted to get your opinion on what web browser si the best,what you prefer etc. To help out I thought I'd post an article first.


People may be passionate about their favorite sports team, but if you really want to get them fired up, ask what Web browser they use.

There's the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" crowd who tend to stick with the browser that's included with their operating system -- Microsoft's Internet Explorer on Windows and Apple's Safari on the Mac. There are the "I've just gotta be me" folks who prefer lesser-known browsers, such as Opera from Opera Software. And there are the "live free or die" open-source true believers who champion Mozilla's Firefox above its commercial counterparts. Browser Smackdown: Firefox vs. IE vs. Opera vs. Safari (http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9005614&pageNumber=1)


Here's 4 articles why these people prefer the browser they do.Note the Safari one refers to Safari 2. Safari 3.03 is out and is available for Windows XP,Vista, and Linux.So head on over to Apple downloads to catch up if you have to.

Browser Smackdown: Firefox vs. IE vs. Opera vs. Safari (http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9005614&pageNumber=2)

Browser Smackdown: Firefox vs. IE vs. Opera vs. Safari (http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9005614&pageNumber=6)

Browser Smackdown: Firefox vs. IE vs. Opera vs. Safari (http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9005614&pageNumber=4)

Browser Smackdown: Firefox vs. IE vs. Opera vs. Safari (http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9005614&pageNumber=8)

I have all four and to me they own have their distinct advantages except IE 7. I only use IE 7 when I have to use a website not compatible with my other browsers or an browsing files through my computer.It's far behind the other browsers IMHO.

Firefox is good because it has by far the most add ons allowing me to customize it to my hearts content. From built in del.icio.us to let me access my bookmarks from anywhere,colorful tabs for easy tabbed browsing,good proxy support,web developer tools and much more firefox is an Open Source monster.

Safari is the most user friendly and the fastest browser on my computer. It has the best bookmarks interface by far. Organizing bookmarks is alot like organizing bookmarks in iTunes.Folders,subfolders and a great drag and drop interface. I can drag a folder into a subfolder and vice versa and thanks to the bookmarks button on the toolbar I can quicly save a page to a bookmarks folder and a sub folder if it exists.Also it has great keyboard shortcuts like ctrl+alt+b to go into bookmars and ctrl+click to open a link in a new tab if right clicking to do it is too slow for me.It has a built in autofill feature allowing me to quickly fill out even long complex forms with ease.
It alos has snap back allowing me to go back to my search results or the home page of a site without hitting back a million times.Also has a great easily customizeable toolbar and is extremely simplified and yes its a beautiful looking browser. I can also merge all windows into tabs or drag out tabs into windows.

Opera to me is describe din one word:features. It is full of features..... spellcheck,speed dial,cascade,tile,new tab, and widgets. It's also as fast as Safari.LOL it has too many features to list.

So for me I pick

1 Safari or Opera(can't decide)
2 Firefox
3 IE 7

Parihaka
26 Oct 07,, 00:23
Safari for me though the windows beta version was too buggy the last time I tried it. Haven't looked at opera but I will

Shamus
26 Oct 07,, 00:23
Sorry dude,you missed my favorite and the one I'm using right now....Avant,nice interface,easy to use,faster than IE by far;) .

Shadowsided
26 Oct 07,, 00:47
Safari for me though the windows beta version was too buggy the last time I tried it. Haven't looked at opera but I will

For me it's not buggy other than the fact it closes when I print all the time. Other than that it's not buggy for me.O yea i forgot to mention Opera's autofill is called a wand.

gunnut
26 Oct 07,, 01:01
I vote for Firefox. It's open source. It's free. And it ain't M$ or Apple.

Shamus
26 Oct 07,, 01:03
I vote for Firefox. It's open source. It's free. And it ain't M$ or Apple.I like Firefox also gunnut,I just like Avant more:) ,it's also free and open source.

texasjohn
26 Oct 07,, 01:32
I've been in the IT field since '92.

IE can be customized also: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/ie6/using/howto/customizing/custombrowser.mspx

From all the hype I've seen about "better this, cooler that" they are all about the same. OK! so Mozilla is open source. What does that do for my browsing? am I now going to spend all my surfing time - coding this 'lil bitty gotta have feature' or just surf? If I am a hacker it would be easier for me to figure out brower code for an exploit.

For all the hype I've seen with the browsers, I stick to IE. Never had a problem, and support is easy and quick if anything does happen. I've never had any exploits hit my system through IE, because I keep up with ALL OS patches. And THAT is the key - not the "browser of the day".

I have not really seen anything that makes me go "wow!" in any of the other browsers out there.

Shadowsided
26 Oct 07,, 02:16
IE doesn't have as many add ons as firefox(firefox has thousands). I have used IE and other browsers based on my experiences the other browsers have better features and are far more user friendly.

dalem
26 Oct 07,, 02:16
I am with Texasjohn in that browsers are boring. I've also been in the tech field for awhile and snored through the first Exploro-Netscape browser war to no great loss. Work was all Sun Solaris Unix nodes so we used Netscape. Big whoop. I used IE at home. Another big whoop.

Now I use Avant like Shamus, mainly because the single tab function is nice.

-dale

Parihaka
26 Oct 07,, 02:22
Avant added to the poll

omon
26 Oct 07,, 02:29
myie2 for me.

Shadowsided
26 Oct 07,, 02:29
Avant added to the poll

Thanks alot appreciate it.
BTW I got rid of the boring gray theme for my firefox browser. It's all metallic and awesome! I wonder if adding a web developer tool is a good idea. I already have built in del.icio.us so i don't have to lug my bookmarks with me.


You guys can have fun arguing I have all five browsers anyway.:)) :)) :))

RSS rules!!!

Shadowsided
26 Oct 07,, 02:31
myie2 for me.
It's been renamed Maxthon

texasjohn
26 Oct 07,, 02:51
IE doesn't have as many add ons as firefox(firefox has thousands). I have used IE and other browsers based on my experiences the other browsers have better features and are far more user friendly.

And how many of those thousands do you really use? Furthermore, do you know the source of the add on? Are you sure it does not have a built-in exploit?

Open source is just that! It's OPEN to the good, the bad, and the ugly!

Feanor
26 Oct 07,, 03:32
We have to compare their operating ranges, reliability, mobility, crew comfort, and armor. You guys are just posting uneducated opinions. Do some research God.

texasjohn
26 Oct 07,, 03:37
We have to compare their operating ranges, reliability, mobility, crew comfort, and armor. You guys are just posting uneducated opinions. Do some research God.

I don't know where you are coming from on this, but do grace us with thy knowledge and be more specific !!!

What do you have to say about this discussion?:rolleyes:

gunnut
26 Oct 07,, 03:43
I use pretty much IE only. I install Firefox on some older Wintel machines that have problem running IE6+ (especially IE7).

I'm with John and Dale. Browsers don't do much for me. I don't care about add-ons. Everything I have are stock color/theme.

The only problem I have with IE is how resource intensive it is. It seems to get hungrier and hungrier at a geometric scale.

Shamus
26 Oct 07,, 03:50
I don't know where you are coming from on this, but do grace us with thy knowledge and be more specific !!!

What do you have to say about this discussion?:rolleyes:TJ,please take note of the sarcasm brackets at either end of Feanor's post.This is a clear indication on his part that he is just kidding.So a proper response would be thus....."Hey Feanor!:P :P :P :P :P :P and double:P ";) :biggrin:

texasjohn
26 Oct 07,, 03:56
TJ,please take note of the sarcasm brackets at either end of Feanor's post.This is a clear indication on his part that he is just kidding.So a proper response would be thus....."Hey Feanor!:P :P :P :P :P :P and double:P ";) :biggrin:

Oh you mean he is one of us!!:)) Dumb a$$ that I am!:))

Yo feanor! wazzup up??:)) :))

Feanor
26 Oct 07,, 06:10
I don't know where you are coming from on this, but do grace us with thy knowledge and be more specific !!!

What do you have to say about this discussion?:rolleyes:

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc60/FeanorHighElven/elrondzg7.jpg


Oh you mean he is one of us!!:)) Dumb a$$ that I am!:))

Yo feanor! wazzup up??:)) :))

:biggrin: I figured it might be hard to get the humor across in typing. So I figured the might help. I guess some take longer then others ;) btw what's the color of your hair?

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc60/FeanorHighElven/ca74.jpg

Whoops. Uh. I think I'll go hide now.

J`ve
22 Jan 08,, 09:54
Firefox 3.0b2 :)

gunnut
22 Jan 08,, 11:24
Firefox 3.0b2 :)

Is the memory leak problem fixed?

J`ve
22 Jan 08,, 13:26
Is the memory leak problem fixed?

It works quite fine now :)

bolo121
22 Jan 08,, 15:05
Opera since version 3

Trooth
22 Jan 08,, 15:26
I use IE7 almost exclusively apart from giving any web development i do a once over with Firefox to make sure it works.

Now that both sides of the "best browser" tedium have realised it was crappy web development that led to "this site designed for IE 4.00067.5.4" or "works best with Netscape 6.0342.1" and have sorted themselves out and stopped making ridiculous websites it's largely immaterial.

I used Firefox a lot before IE7 came out, because i really liked the tabbed browsing the built in search and the internal find on demand. But since IE7 has two of those i now never use Firefox. The other thing is because there are still some bad websites out there, you still need to have IE lying around for when they won't work with Firefox et al (FF even has an add-on to quickly open the page in IE!). So, if i have to have it as a back-up why bother using anything else in the first place?

J`ve
22 Jan 08,, 15:45
I use IE7 almost exclusively apart from giving any web development i do a once over with Firefox to make sure it works.

Now that both sides of the "best browser" tedium have realised it was crappy web development that led to "this site designed for IE 4.00067.5.4" or "works best with Netscape 6.0342.1" and have sorted themselves out and stopped making ridiculous websites it's largely immaterial.

I used Firefox a lot before IE7 came out, because i really liked the tabbed browsing the built in search and the internal find on demand. But since IE7 has two of those i now never use Firefox. The other thing is because there are still some bad websites out there, you still need to have IE lying around for when they won't work with Firefox et al (FF even has an add-on to quickly open the page in IE!). So, if i have to have it as a back-up why bother using anything else in the first place?


That's why,

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/827/expad6.jpg

bolo121
22 Jan 08,, 17:14
oooo! me too

Trooth
22 Jan 08,, 17:59
Yes, but i use my PC for more than watching the memory management of programs. Currently IE7 is using 2.4% of the RAM on this PC. If i swapped to Firefox it might use 1.7%. But that gain of 0.7% of installed RAM is not going to offset the crappier font rendering.

bolo121
22 Jan 08,, 18:11
My first pc was a pentium 200 with 8mb of ram. So ive always been obsessed with reducing memory use and loved opera.
Back then it would fit on a single floppy disk.
a single IE window would basically kill my system so have hated it always.

Trooth
22 Jan 08,, 18:19
My first pc was a pentium 200 with 8mb of ram. So ive always been obsessed with reducing memory use and loved opera.
Back then it would fit on a single floppy disk.
a single IE window would basically kill my system so have hated it always.

That was my philosophy when i used to use Wordperfect for DOS.

Now with PCs having a surplus of performance compared to the current generation of Windows, it is better to be happy with the functionality of your software than to worry about the technicalities of what it is doing behind the scenes.

I may re-evaluate if someone produces a browser with better functionality (i.e. like tabs drew me to FF), or if any of my IT cleints move their Windows installations over to another browser(highly unlikely in a corporate world).

bolo121
22 Jan 08,, 18:32
thats why i still dont use IE
Opera is lighter faster has plenty of features and is more secure
My pc could be encoding video files while i contentedly browse the web.

Trooth
23 Jan 08,, 13:12
thats why i still dont use IE
Opera is lighter faster has plenty of features and is more secure
My pc could be encoding video files while i contentedly browse the web.

Mine does and much more, all at the same time. All with IE as the browser.