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  • #2
    Damn straight!
    Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

    Abusing Yellow is meant to be a labor of love, not something you sell to the highest bidder.

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    • #3
      The concept of war on terrorism is self defeating. Terrorism is done by nations of extremists. The United States cannot declare war on a state or on a country.

      The war on terrorism could be used to justify attacking foriegn countries in attempt to get the nation that is responsible for certain actions.

      Dick Cheney used to work for Halliburton. Halliburton was given contracts to rebuild iraq before the war in iraq. The contracts were to rebuild iraq.

      This is not a war on terrorism, war is terror. This is pre emptive war. That will provoke terrorism. The terrorist organizations will grow in size as anti US sentiment grows.

      The concept of war on terrorism is self defeating. In fact, it contributes to more terrorism; we intend to stop terrorism. Interesting example of cause and effect.

      Who could benefit from this?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by tw-acs
        The concept of war on terrorism is self defeating. Terrorism is done by nations of extremists. The United States cannot declare war on a state or on a country.

        The war on terrorism could be used to justify attacking foriegn countries in attempt to get the nation that is responsible for certain actions.

        Dick Cheney used to work for Halliburton. Halliburton was given contracts to rebuild iraq before the war in iraq. The contracts were to rebuild iraq.

        This is not a war on terrorism, war is terror. This is pre emptive war. That will provoke terrorism. The terrorist organizations will grow in size as anti US sentiment grows.

        The concept of war on terrorism is self defeating. In fact, it contributes to more terrorism; we intend to stop terrorism. Interesting example of cause and effect.

        Who could benefit from this?
        TW you may or may not be aware that I work as an estimator for a constuction company, I saw the bids that the General Contractors put out at bid time, Haliburton was low and had more minority contractor participation. Haliburton got the contracts fairly, which kinda pisses me off cause we went in with another guy.
        Your look more lost than a bastard child on fathers day.

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        • #5
          Fairly what does that mean?
          You cannot deny the connections between the president and vice president and the creation of new policies. Some of these policies use doublespeak. The government of today uses names that sound good but really are the title of something quite the opposite. The patriot act is not patriotic. THe new energy policies allow for more polllution and lower standards but have names that sound appealing to the public. The public for the most part is ignorant. They will hear patriot act and think patriotism. The government we have today in the United States requires for citizens to be skeptics and get involved in politics. If the public fails to meet there political obligations this country will fail. The people is the foundation of our system.

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          • #6
            Fairly means Haliburten asked the ammount of money which best estimated the cost of reconstruction.

            Now shutup you stupid socialist.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Praxus
              Fairly means Haliburten asked the ammount of money which best estimated the cost of reconstruction.

              Now shutup you stupid socialist.
              You needn't be so blunt when talking to one my friends to get your point across.
              "Every man has his weakness. Mine was always just cigarettes."

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              • #8
                Fairly means that Haliburton got the lowest over all price in at bid time. They had the LOWEST number with the most inclusions... thats how you win contracts. Unless you have a firm grasp, some experience and some proof that Haliburton cheated, on the bidding process that I'm unaware of then if I was you I would bow out of saying Haliburton got an unfair contract.
                Your look more lost than a bastard child on fathers day.

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                • #9
                  ou needn't be so blunt when talking to one my friends to get your point across.
                  Sorry

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                  • #10
                    Were any of you aware that the United States Military used to do what haliburton got contracts to do. Knowing the connection between haliburton and Cheney does not add credibility to the administration and the intent behind the giving contracts to haliburton instead of the United States Military.

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                    • #11
                      Are you aware that 95% or better of all construction on military posts is done by civilian contractors who are asked by the Corp of Engineers to submit their bids? In the last 4 months alone I've bid 6 different contracts at Ft. Hood alone. Most of the construction that Haliburton is beeing tasked to do is no longer routinely done my any military units, save maybe the Seebees.
                      Your look more lost than a bastard child on fathers day.

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                      • #12
                        Stinger

                        I just said that the military doesn't do these functions any more. Thus the tasks must be contracted out to civilian owned corporations like haliburton. The problem with this is haliburton bid for the contracts before the war. And the blatant connection between Cheney and haliburton. Realize that last paycheck he got from haliburton is under dispute. Why does the military no longer have units that perform these "rebuilding Iraq" functions?

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                        • #13
                          I'm not sure that rebuilding an enemy country ever fell to the military. US Army didn't rebuild Germany, nor the South after the Civil War... you'd be hard pressed to find a mexican who's family home recieved any kind of reconstruction from after the Mexican War, I don't think the people of Japan had anything, non base related rebuilt by the US either. You keep you 'conspiracy theory TW, I'm the one who saw the bid results after they were placed.
                          Your look more lost than a bastard child on fathers day.

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                          • #14
                            What justifies United States companies and corporations geting the contracts to rebuild iraq. Why don't iraqi companies get this business.

                            find out what new america century is and tell me what you think about that.

                            Most of the conservative persons on this forum have made statements about other persons intelligence level. This being said I would like to seee tehse conservative persons excerise there brains and respond

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                            • #15
                              What justifies United States companies and corporations geting the contracts to rebuild iraq. Why don't iraqi companies get this business.

                              find out what new america century is and tell me what you think about that.

                              Most of the conservative persons on this forum have made statements about other persons intelligence level. This being said I would like to seee tehse conservative persons excerise there brains and respond
                              You do relise that their country was Socialist. There is little to none private companies, let a lone ones that could do the major building required.

                              Yes I know what the "New American Century". This is the site...
                              http://www.newamericancentury.org/

                              Please tell me what is wrong with their ideas?

                              I just said that the military doesn't do these functions any more. Thus the tasks must be contracted out to civilian owned corporations like haliburton. The problem with this is haliburton bid for the contracts before the war. And the blatant connection between Cheney and haliburton. Realize that last paycheck he got from haliburton is under dispute. Why does the military no longer have units that perform these "rebuilding Iraq" functions?
                              Because the Job of the military is to secure our individual rights not to rebuild a 3rd World Country.

                              One last thing, please look up the companys that have the same capability of haliburtan. There are only a couple others and they are European(German and French).
                              Last edited by Praxus; 21 Sep 03,, 19:08.

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