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kams
16 Mar 07,, 16:20
World Cup 2007 is already underway. We did see some good matches already, both warm up and others. As usual this world cup had its share of controversies, more to come no doubt. We had the incidence of Fire (or Smoke) in the Hotel where Pakistani and South African teams stayed, which resulted in really juicy media controversy. Apparently media mis-quoted a Pakistani player, resulting in a rather bizarre decision by Pakistani side to abandon English and stick to Urdu. Then we have a raging on going controversy over comments made by Sunil Gavaskar on Aussies.

Coming to games, we had a goos one b/w Pakistan and WI. Though Pakistan lost, they normally come back very strongly in later stages. I consider Pakistani team to be most talented one.

Kiwis are battling the English today. English are in a wee bit of bother right now.

Let the fun begin. Post your thoughts on the games or other controversies.....lets have fun.

T_igger_cs_30
16 Mar 07,, 16:45
I think we are in for one of the best world cup's ever, great location the atmosphere wil be electric, as for a winner.......never been harder to pick....India always very very strong in one day play, never under estimate Sri Lanka....the Aussies, what can you say , ........Kiwis have come out flying :mad: .............I hate the way they are making England sound like a one man team right now, and listenting to some of the rest of the team I fear some have bought into it and hoping Flintoff stays fit and plays well through out..............In for a great few weeks I think:biggrin:

soutie
16 Mar 07,, 16:51
remember south africa they are also quite good with the leather and willow:biggrin:

T_igger_cs_30
16 Mar 07,, 16:53
remember south africa they are also quite good with the leather and willow:biggrin:

Agreed ranked #1 at present in one day play........I did not overlook that just did not want to remind you :biggrin:

soutie
16 Mar 07,, 16:59
:biggrin: :biggrin: thanks anyway but i am not being pesamistic but we have snatched defeat out of the jaws of victory before ,i think we may have a problem with BMT:biggrin:

kams
16 Mar 07,, 17:13
Couple of teams have to break their worldcup jinxes, South Africa have to shed off their 'Chokers' label, Pakistan have to beat India in a WC match.

Don't ignore West Indies, they have the home side advantage.

kams
16 Mar 07,, 17:32
Uhhh England committed Hara-kiri, 2 wickets in 2 balls, Collingwood and Peterson out. Where is Pari?

Make it 3 wickets, Flintoff is gone.

T_igger_cs_30
16 Mar 07,, 17:33
OH no :eek: England collapse flintoff gone first ball :mad:

brak
16 Mar 07,, 17:47
I haven't been following cricket since the last world cup. Heck I don't even know the teams anymore with all the new players coming in. I guess I have some catching up to do.:)

kams
16 Mar 07,, 17:48
OH no :eek: England collapse flintoff gone first ball :mad:

Its not going well for England, one more gone, 139/7:rolleyes: .

brak
16 Mar 07,, 17:53
Who is the English Captain? Vaughan or Flintoff? I know Stephen Fleming is the NZ captain.

kams
16 Mar 07,, 17:55
Who is the English Captain? Vaughan or Flintoff? I know Stephen Fleming is the NZ captain.
Vaughan, its been while since Hussain retired. May not be a bad idea for him to come back.

brak
16 Mar 07,, 18:00
Vaughan, its been while since Hussain retired. May not be a bad idea for him to come back.

Thanks kams, Yeah Hussain was a pretty good captain. I wonder why he retired though. I think he still had a few good years worth of cricket left in him.

dave lukins
16 Mar 07,, 18:00
Its not going well for England, one more gone, 139/7:rolleyes: .

Bang on form then!!!!:biggrin: :mad:

dave lukins
16 Mar 07,, 18:05
Vaughan, its been while since Hussain retired. May not be a bad idea for him to come back.

Kams, how about bringin back Botham, Gatting and Boycott anyone over 50 should do:biggrin: What's the with the youngsters these days..no get up and go!!:biggrin:

kams
16 Mar 07,, 18:22
Kams, how about bringin back Botham, Gatting and Boycott anyone over 50 should do:biggrin: What's the with the youngsters these days..no get up and go!!:biggrin:
:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Eng recovered a bit. 187, 2 overs to go.

brak
16 Mar 07,, 18:30
I can't wait for the South Africa v/s Australia game. It's going to be a killer!

T_igger_cs_30
16 Mar 07,, 18:31
Great stand by the last pair...........209 - 7 lets hope the bowlers come through now .................a good performance by the Kiwi bowlers....but it aint over yet :biggrin:

brak
16 Mar 07,, 18:32
Is it a bowlers pitch Tigger? If so then England might have a chance:)

T_igger_cs_30
16 Mar 07,, 18:34
Is it a bowlers pitch Tigger? If so then England might have a chance:)

Tis a bit , i get the feeling its a bit slow.........so our boys have to come out with the new ball and take advantage attack them not try to contain

brak
16 Mar 07,, 18:38
Tis a bit , i get the feeling its a bit slow.........so our boys have to come out with the new ball and take advantage attack them not try to contain

slow is good, meaning ball won't come on to the bat. Plenty of chances to take wickets. You are right about attacking them. Well lets wait and see how the other half of the game unfolds:)

T_igger_cs_30
16 Mar 07,, 19:06
Great start by England 1 - 1 of the first over :biggrin:

T_igger_cs_30
16 Mar 07,, 19:28
13 - 2 woohoo oops no 17 - 3 yahooooooooooooo great start :biggrin:

Ray
16 Mar 07,, 20:26
The biggest carnival come to town!

Over rated punks!

At least the Indian cricketers!

dave lukins
16 Mar 07,, 20:38
13 - 2 woohoo oops no 17 - 3 yahooooooooooooo great start :biggrin:

Another Cuban cigar and a tad of malt or two?

T_igger_cs_30
16 Mar 07,, 21:20
Another Cuban cigar and a tad of malt or two?

Just put the cuban out and hitting the bottle now.........137 - 4 run rate 3.3 of remaining overs kiwis have settled down and taken control..........need a miracle :mad:

dave lukins
16 Mar 07,, 21:23
Just put the cuban out and hitting the bottle now.........137 - 4 run rate 3.3 of remaining overs kiwis have settled down and taken control..........need a miracle :mad:

Hit the bottle for six, we need the runs:biggrin:

kams
16 Mar 07,, 21:29
Any thing can happen...1RTR don't give up:biggrin: .

England is 20 runs short though.

Uhhh you guys just dropped the match.

T_igger_cs_30
16 Mar 07,, 22:04
Any thing can happen...1RTR don't give up:biggrin: .

England is 20 runs short though.

Uhhh you guys just dropped the match.

Yea were you listening on BBC also Kams just lost it :mad:

kams
16 Mar 07,, 22:24
Yea were you listening on BBC also Kams just lost it :mad:
No, watching on the Internet. Sigh...

T_igger_cs_30
16 Mar 07,, 22:54
:eek: 6 wickets oh well well done the Kiwis..........:redface:

dave lukins
16 Mar 07,, 22:54
Yea were you listening on BBC also Kams just lost it :mad:

That's it where's me whites, meself and Jardine are on our way!!!:biggrin: :mad:

T_igger_cs_30
17 Mar 07,, 15:16
That's it where's me whites, meself and Jardine are on our way!!!:biggrin: :mad:

See you there me ol mate ...........:eek: me whites have shrunk :biggrin:

T_igger_cs_30
17 Mar 07,, 15:18
Shaky start by India .....23 - 2 of 8 overs ....Bangladesh must be feeling good

T_igger_cs_30
17 Mar 07,, 16:01
:eek: the Irish are on a roll today great start against Pakistan(batting) also at the world cup ..........23 - 2 after 4.4 overs

India still a little shaky ......50 - 3 after 16.1 overs

T_igger_cs_30
17 Mar 07,, 17:26
Pakistan still in trouble against Ireland at 73 - 6 after 22.3 overs, well it is St Paddy's day :biggrin:

India settled a bit now at 152 - 4 after 41.2 overs, Indian bowlers should be able to contain Bangladesh

kams
17 Mar 07,, 18:11
What the F***is happening. I come back from Airport (Horrible drive 50 miles one way, while going it was really terrible, snow, ice, road slippery, Flight delayed by 2 hrs) and what do I see? India 192 all out, Pakistan worse at 109/8...crap.:mad:

T_igger_cs_30
17 Mar 07,, 18:29
Kams I think the Indian bowlers will be able to deal with the Bangladesh batters...............same with the pakistani bowlers against the Irish who at cricket are playing well above there station today....hope they can keep it up :biggrin:

kams
17 Mar 07,, 18:35
Kams I think the Indian bowlers will be able to deal with the Bangladesh batters...............same with the pakistani bowlers against the Irish who at cricket are playing well above there station today....hope they can keep it up :biggrin:

Tigger,
Not too sure about Indian bowlers. As to Irish, I am sipping a Irish Red beer:biggrin: .

Jay
17 Mar 07,, 18:46
friggin dumb idiot, thats to Shewag.

T_igger_cs_30
17 Mar 07,, 19:22
Tigger,
Not too sure about Indian bowlers. As to Irish, I am sipping a Irish Red beer:biggrin: .

Kams should be green beer for St Paddy's day :biggrin:

Ray
17 Mar 07,, 19:44
Bangladesh has given a sterling performance against India.

Great fielding and good bowling.

They are also batting fabulously and with great aggressiveness.

Things can go wrong for India.

May the better team win!

kams
17 Mar 07,, 19:58
Kams should be green beer for St Paddy's day :biggrin:

I know, but I have to do with what I have in the refrigerator. Atleast its Irish.

India not playing well. Ahhh 3rd wicket falls.

Ray,

I think BD played a better cricket today.

Ray
17 Mar 07,, 20:01
What's the score?

kams
17 Mar 07,, 20:07
What's the score?

BD is 81/3 in 18 overs.

kams
17 Mar 07,, 22:15
BD won a well deserved victory. Ireland is 81/4, target -132.

crooks
17 Mar 07,, 22:32
BD won a well deserved victory. Ireland is 81/4, target -132.

Wow, I wasn't even aware we were playing in the world cup :biggrin: !

kams
18 Mar 07,, 00:00
Wow, I wasn't even aware we were playing in the world cup :biggrin: !

You guys WON buddy, beating Pakistan. Happy Saint Patricks Day.:biggrin: .

(*opening one more Iridsh red*)

Tomorrow I have to shop for Single Malts. Had too many beers to drive now.:biggrin:

crooks
18 Mar 07,, 00:18
You guys WON buddy, beating Pakistan. Happy Saint Patricks Day.:biggrin: .

(*opening one more Iridsh red*)

Tomorrow I have to shop for Single Malts. Had too many beers to drive now.:biggrin:

LMAO....thanks :biggrin: !

I thought Pakistan were "good" at cricket?

kams
18 Mar 07,, 01:02
LMAO....thanks :biggrin: !

I thought Pakistan were "good" at cricket?

Yes, they are. That makes the win special.

(Everyone has a off-day)

With this loss, Pakistan has been eliminated from the Worldcup. (Ahhh hate to see them exit worldcup).

Tomorrow England face Canada. (1RTR vs Engineers).

kams
18 Mar 07,, 01:09
Kams should be green beer for St Paddy's day :biggrin:

Psst...seriously, is there really green beer?

saambaarblast
18 Mar 07,, 03:30
Good show Bangladesh and Ireland! Hahahaha...school teachers, accountants, bank tellers and sundry beating the hell outta multi-millionaire "professionals"! Cricket is a one trick pony for India and Pakistan! You put all eggs in one basket(or channel all your emotional investment towards these clowns-in-blue) and this is what happens!

Ray
18 Mar 07,, 05:32
Good show Bangladesh.

As I said, the Indian team and their appendages are over rated.

It has gone to their heads!

Should bring them down a notch or two!

I am rather disappointed that Pakistan is out of the World Cup.

Anyway, the betters (punters) are going crazy

It all about cricket, big money and big gambling!

Parihaka
18 Mar 07,, 06:52
Did we win?:)

T_igger_cs_30
18 Mar 07,, 06:54
Did we win?:)

Been waiting for you :mad: .....................seriously well done the kiwis :biggrin:

Parihaka
18 Mar 07,, 07:01
Been waiting for you :mad: .....................seriously well done the kiwis :biggrin:

Unlike the Pakistanis you guys are still in though eh?

dave lukins
18 Mar 07,, 10:52
Psst...seriously, is there really green beer?

No, it goes from black to light brown,though some Dutch beers have an unusual colour, more cosmetic than real beer:)

crooks
18 Mar 07,, 13:40
Jayzus.....I can't believe the Tigers and The Blarney Army both won on the same day :) !

kams
18 Mar 07,, 13:49
Unlike the Pakistanis you guys are still in though eh?

Today English take on the Canadians, and Aussies take ob the Dutch. No surprises expected.:biggrin: .

T_igger_cs_30
18 Mar 07,, 14:32
Today English take on the Canadians, and Aussies take ob the Dutch. No surprises expected.:biggrin: .

Had a surprise already just heard on the news that Flintoff has been dropped by England he was found drunk in a bar!!!!!!!!!!! trying to find a report

kams
18 Mar 07,, 14:42
Had a surprise already just heard on the news that Flintoff has been dropped by England he was found drunk in a bar!!!!!!!!!!! trying to find a report

More like getting drunk and then sinking a boat at 4:00 am.:biggrin: :biggrin: .

Here is a link to the story.

England and Flintoff all at sea
(http://www.theage.com.au/news/cricket/england-and-flintoff-all-at-sea/2007/03/18/1174152881802.html)

Blademaster
18 Mar 07,, 15:29
It is no surprise that the Indians lost. They are being managed by a bunch of imbeciles and an stupid system.

There should be a national system of cricket more akin to NFL, NBA, or MLB. That way, we can encourage development of better cricket players and further increase revenues for cricket. Practically 80% of all revenues for World Cup come from South Asia wih the lion's share going to India.

There need to be uniform standards regarding field specifications and conditions to eliminate the home field advantage. This would force India to rely more on the development of the players' skills and conditioning regimen.

Somebody needs to deliver a good kick in the pants at the Ministry of Sports and BCCI.

Ray
18 Mar 07,, 15:41
I had a very that a wine taste. It is called Jaguar by UB.

Horrid!

A beer should taste like a beer.

And to imagine Mallya is from my school!

Blademaster,

Ever since Kiran More and Sharad Pawar came onto the scene, Indian cricket was doomed. Vengasarkar is the only ray of hope!

But be a sport. India lost fair and square and hands down!

Grim Reaper
18 Mar 07,, 17:19
Hopefully India makes a come back. And I must say that Ireland did extremely well, I was so happy when they won! GO IRELAND!

kams
18 Mar 07,, 19:21
Link (http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/wc2007/content/current/story/285940.html)

Bob Wolmer, coach of Pakistan team was found unconscious in his Hotel room today.

Bob Woolmer, the Pakistan coach, has been taken to University Hospital in Kingston, Jamaica, after being found unconscious in his hotel room earlier this morning.

Woolmer, 58, was discovered lying on the floor of his room, with vomit around him, at 10.45am and was taken by ambulance to hospital at 11.50am. Police also attended his room. "We have taken Bob Woolmer to the hospital and he is in the emergency ward," Pakistan team media manager Pervez Mir told AFP.

Pakistan team manager Talat Ali, their trainer Murray Stevenson and assistant manager Asad Mustafa went with Woolmer to the hospital where he was given medical attention. "We have contacted Bob Woolmer's wife in South Africa and have told her about the situation," added Mir.

Woolmer was last seen in public when he addressed the post-match media conference after his team's defeat to Ireland at Sabina Park.

At 14.30 local time, Woolmer was still unconscious.

Hope recovers soon.

Grim Reaper
18 Mar 07,, 19:25
Bob Woolmer, the Pakistan coach, has died in a Kingston hospital after being found unconscious in his hotel room hours after his side's elimination from the World Cup.

~Breaking news from cricinfo.

kams
18 Mar 07,, 19:25
latest news is Bom Wolmer Died in Hospital. To be confirmed.

RIP, Bob.

Ray
18 Mar 07,, 19:44
Bob Woolmer is dead.

What a waste of a good life all because of a game that has been hyped for commercial purposes driving nations into frenzy and ruining lives!

A cynical comment by me, but I still cannot fathom why a game should appear as if it is a war and the loss is as if the country has been ruined beyond redemption!

In India, there have been attacks on players' houses!

How stupid can people get?

kams
18 Mar 07,, 19:53
Bob Woolmer is dead.

What a waste of a good life all because of a game that has been hyped for commercial purposes driving nations into frenzy and ruining lives!

A cynical comment by me, but I still cannot fathom why a game should appear as if it is a war and the loss is as if the country has been ruined beyond redemption!

In India, there have been attacks on players' houses!

How stupid can people get?


Sir,

It's not the people. Cricketers have been made the Heroes in our country. It's too much for an ordinary citizen when their Heroes let them down. Don't blame the people or the Heroes.

I am very depressed about Bob. He did a lot for Cricket in general, South Africa in particular.

Ray
18 Mar 07,, 20:00
I don't know Woolmer from Adam.

But I am horribly depressed that a silly game (any game) can kill a man off the field because of crass commercial hype that makes nations go crazy and idiotic.

It is the damned TV that has made the Indian cricketers icons. I was seeing some of the programmes on TV which with cleverly worded sentences were actually egging the audience to bay for the blood of certain cricketers and the coach.

Is it worth agitating and egging gullible idiots of a nation to go on a mayhem just because the lost a game?

Is the game more important than the property these gullible idiots will destroy when they go on a rampage?

I also heard what Imran Khan had to say about Woolmer and Inzzy Haq!

Pakistan is too busy baying for Musharraf's blood and so maybe they will get into the act later. They are no better than Indians in making cricket appears as if it is the nation's pillar and index of success!

T_igger_cs_30
18 Mar 07,, 20:00
Thats a shame about the Pakistani coach RIP, for me the world cup has already lost an edge because of the behaviour of some of the Englamd team, it infuriates me when people wearing an England shirt and representing there country can behave this way............Most people do not get the chance to represent there country and wear the shirt............I loathe sportsmen who abuse that privilage .....they should not be allowed to wear them again.:mad:

dave lukins
18 Mar 07,, 20:09
Thats a shame about the Pakistani coach RIP, for me the world cup has already lost an edge because of the behaviour of some of the Englamd team, it infuriates me when people wearing an England shirt and representing there country can behave this way............Most people do not get the chance to represent there country and wear the shirt............I loathe sportsmen who abuse that privilage .....they should not be allowed to wear them again.:mad:

Wayne mate don't hold back with your comments tell it from the heart:biggrin: Totally agree with you how dare they abuse the privilege and bring shame to the Country:mad:

Ray
18 Mar 07,, 20:12
What's the real story about Flintoff.

Our news in India is cryptic. He was partying on a boat, had excess drinks and fell off the boat!

T_igger_cs_30
18 Mar 07,, 20:30
What's the real story about Flintoff.

Our news in India is cryptic. He was partying on a boat, had excess drinks and fell off the boat!

I dont have the full story yet Sir, but so far what i hear is he lead a drinking spree with some other team mates he was dropped and the others disciplined............for me they all would have been o the next plane home and not allowed to wear the shirt again................:mad:

kams
18 Mar 07,, 20:31
What's the real story about Flintoff.

Our news in India is cryptic. He was partying on a boat, had excess drinks and fell off the boat!

Apparently he and some of his team mates had late night party in a pub. (Part was not on a boat). After the party Mr.Flintoff returned to his hotel and then decided to take a small hotel boat (more likely kind of row boat) in to sea at 4:00 am and promptly capsized it. he was rescued by Hotel staff.

He has been sacked as Vice Captain.

T_igger_cs_30
18 Mar 07,, 20:31
What's the real story about Flintoff.

Our news in India is cryptic. He was partying on a boat, had excess drinks and fell off the boat!

I dont have the full story yet Sir, but so far what I hear is he led a drinking spree with some other team mates he was dropped and the others disciplined............for me they all would have been on the next plane home and not allowed to wear the shirt again.......they are there to try and win a world cup wait till after.........:mad:

Lahori paa jee
18 Mar 07,, 21:28
Very Shocking. Feels we have lost a family member.

How will the team play in their upcoming match.


"I am deeply hurt and cannot tell you how it is going to affect me," Woolmer told AFP late on Saturday after the Ireland defeat, saying he would answer more questions on email later in the week

Cricinfo - Bob Woolmer's death stuns cricket world (http://content-pak.cricinfo.com/wc2007/content/current/story/285953.html)

The team must be cursing themselves for his death

dave lukins
18 Mar 07,, 21:39
[QUOTE=Lahori paa jee;356565]Very Shocking. Feels we have lost a family member.

How will the team play in their upcoming match.



They will play their next match in his honour and they WILL win for him:)

Lahori paa jee
18 Mar 07,, 23:25
The sad thing is Inzimam is going to announce his retirement in the next few hours. Shock after shock after shock


Inzamam decides to retire from one-day cricket

JAMIACA: Pakistan cricket skipper Inzamam-ul-Haq has decided to retire from one-day international cricket.

According to Geo news correspondent Abdul Majid Bhatti, Inzamam consulted his friends about his retirement after yesterday's defeat by Ireland with 3 wickets. Later he consulted his father, who advised him to retire from international cricket and resign from captaincy of Pakistani team. Inzamam said he would play Test cricket only as a player and resign from captaincy.

He will announce his retirement from one-day international cricket and captaincy
in coming hours.

GEO NEWS (http://geo.tv/geonews/details.asp?id=3589&param=4)

kams
19 Mar 07,, 00:19
The sad thing is Inzimam is going to announce his retirement in the next few hours. Shock after shock after shock

It's indeed a sad news.

667medic
19 Mar 07,, 00:22
The morons in India have demolished the house being built by Dhoni.....

kams
19 Mar 07,, 00:31
The morons in India have demolished the house being built by Dhoni.....

Whaaaaaaaaaaat?

Blademaster
19 Mar 07,, 01:14
But be a sport. India lost fair and square and hands down!

I am always a sport but I can't abide incompetent handling such as by BCCI.

ashkon
19 Mar 07,, 02:44
Go the kiwi's!!!

cirrrocco
19 Mar 07,, 03:36
Psst...seriously, is there really green beer?

yup, just had abt 18 glasses of green beer on saturday. started at 11 am and finished off at 8 pm.. watched the awesome OSU vs Xaviers game, ahhh

Ray
19 Mar 07,, 04:25
This World Cup shall not be the same any more!

Ray
19 Mar 07,, 04:32
I am always a sport but I can't abide incompetent handling such as by BCCI.

When you have politicians at the helm of affairs, you should be ready to accept incompetency.

The rot was started by Kiran More also and he has the temerity to be some sort of an 'expert' giving comments on TV. He is a punk and looks a punk like a bhelpuri seller on Juhu beach!

Can't stand his smug comments.

Did you hear that non cricket understanding person of the BCCI giving comments in Gujerati English. Why speak in English when one has no clue of basic Grammar?


BCCI and Indian cricket and also International Cricket is all about Big Money and Bookies. Everyone has a finger in the pie, or so it seems!


Vengsarkar is far better and a matured person. Given time, he will turn around Indian cricket.

Karthik
19 Mar 07,, 04:34
I completely and totally agree with Sir Ray.

The dross commercialisation of cricket has created so much hype that players and coaches are often put under a lot of stress.

The latest I read was that Flintoff's been sacked as England's vice-captain. I really feel sorry for England - they had a very tough tour of Australia and they didn't have enough time to repair themselves.

Dhoni's house has been attacked? What a shame. The poor blokes are already under so much stress.

Somehow I don't like this World Cup at all.

Parihaka
19 Mar 07,, 04:45
Did I mention NZ beat England?:)

soutie
19 Mar 07,, 16:46
he he being born south of the equator i always support NZ OZ or south africa i even will be screaming for zimbabwe:biggrin: NZ beating England sweeeeeeeeeettttttt:biggrin: but on a serious note condolences to the woolmar family on the passing of a great coach who did so much for south african sport,and the reason why guys homes are being attacked because i think some people are loosing money on these games,its a lot more than being patriotic

soutie
19 Mar 07,, 16:55
hey guys i believe in sports discepline and all that about representing your country,however how many times did Botham and Gooch and Lamb go onto a field with a hangover and score centuries,Steve Waugh i think once said about Shane Warne going out on the piss the night before a test match he took seven wickets today so i am not to fussed if he does have few as long as he preformes ,i think the problem today is that all the fun has gone out of sport you gotta think why teams like Bangladesh Ireland and i will say Aussie is because i think you can see that they are enjoying themselves:biggrin:

kams
19 Mar 07,, 19:17
Ok it was against Bermuda, but 415 in 50 overs with 18 Sixes (equalled the record held by South Africa) is great way to comeback for India. Way to go.:biggrin:

Grim Reaper
19 Mar 07,, 21:00
India 413/5 (50 ov)

That's the highest total ever in World Cup! India is back...and on fire!

kams
19 Mar 07,, 21:13
Bermuda 110/8. India on target to win by a margin more than 250.

Grim Reaper
19 Mar 07,, 21:22
I say more than 275 if they get lucky, you wouldn't happen to know what was the largest margin of runs a team beat another team by in the world cup would ya? India could also set that record too...

118/8 - Bermuda

Grim Reaper
19 Mar 07,, 22:05
This is the largest margin of victory, in terms of runs, in the history of one-day internationals. India win by 257 runs!

Holy Crap, I hope India keeps up this fire burning within and win the World Cup!

T_igger_cs_30
19 Mar 07,, 22:43
This is the largest margin of victory, in terms of runs, in the history of one-day internationals. India win by 257 runs!

Holy Crap, I hope India keeps up this fire burning within and win the World Cup!

Lets not get carried away they were playing Bermuda :biggrin: but still a good run rate of 50 overs

Grim Reaper
19 Mar 07,, 23:00
Right now, WI and Zimbabwe are tight. I hope WI loses, it will make everything easier later on. lol


Ah Damn!

West Indies won by 6 wickets (with 13 balls remaining)

NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Jay
20 Mar 07,, 01:31
India should be sent out of the world cup, lets hope the boys get back to the basics in winning a game. :mad: :mad: Chances of India going to Super 8 is slim and only a miracle will help us defeat SL. :frown:

I'm going to root for Bangladesh from now on. :biggrin:

BTW, did you guys read about the conspiracy theories in Bob Woolmer's death?

kams
20 Mar 07,, 12:02
^^^ No, could you post some here? BTW you may have some inside line to those theories, we know that you are an closet Pakistani.:biggrin:

Ray
20 Mar 07,, 15:29
Ok it was against Bermuda, but 415 in 50 overs with 18 Sixes (equalled the record held by South Africa) is great way to comeback for India. Way to go.:biggrin:

The score would have been astronomical if they were playing against the WAB Cricket team.

Unfortunately, WAB is not a country! ;)

Just joking!

soutie
20 Mar 07,, 17:18
hey ray i think we might have a good cricket team :biggrin:i can swing a bat and i am sure there are a few guys out there who are pretty handy with the red leather,only small problem is that we would have to explain to our american friends that we have to run up and down and not round and round:biggrin:

dave lukins
20 Mar 07,, 18:17
hey ray i think we might have a good cricket team :biggrin:i can swing a bat and i am sure there are a few guys out there who are pretty handy with the red leather,only small problem is that we would have to explain to our american friends that we have to run up and down and not round and round:biggrin:

It's the sliding into base that worries me:biggrin:

kams
20 Mar 07,, 18:37
It's the sliding into base that worries me:biggrin:

In India-Bermuda match, Bermuda wicket keaper tried precisely that to stump one of the indian batsman.:biggrin: . With the ball in left hand, he crashed the right feet in to the stumps, batsman was out of the crease:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: , then it must have dawned on him that he was playing cricket not baseball.

Jay
20 Mar 07,, 19:52
^^^ No, could you post some here?
They say Pakistanis killed Woolmer by poisoning him :eek:

BTW you may have some inside line to those theories, we know that you are an closet Pakistani.:biggrin:
Yup, even though it sounds gayish, Mushy is the beloved savior of the world.

kams
21 Mar 07,, 11:52
KINGSTON, Jamaica -- The death of Pakistan cricket coach Bob Woolmer is being treated as "suspicious" by police.

During a late-night news conference at the team's hotel Tuesday night, deputy police commissioner Mark Shields read a statement which said, "Having met with the pathologist, other medical personnel and investigators there is now sufficient information to continue a full investigation into the circumstances surrounding the death of Mr. Woolmer, which we are now treating as suspicious."

Asked if Jamaica police were pursuing a murder investigation, Shield said: "No, we are not saying that."

The news conference in Jamaica was called after reports emerged in Pakistan's print and electronic media of a murder plot.

Link (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/21/AR2007032100324.html)

Ray
21 Mar 07,, 17:46
hey ray i think we might have a good cricket team :biggrin:i can swing a bat and i am sure there are a few guys out there who are pretty handy with the red leather,only small problem is that we would have to explain to our american friends that we have to run up and down and not round and round:biggrin:

:biggrin:

BTW, saw on TV that Woolmer died under 'suspicious circumstances'.

There are marks on this throat and his vomit was too high up the wall and there was no indication of a force entry into his room!

Bookies?

T_igger_cs_30
21 Mar 07,, 19:06
:biggrin:

BTW, saw on TV that Woolmer died under 'suspicious circumstances'.

There are marks on this throat and his vomit was too high up the wall and there was no indication of a force entry into his room!

Bookies?

Whatever it is its taken the glitter of the world cup :mad:

soutie
22 Mar 07,, 09:22
i think he was poisoned ,when they send blood to a toxiecologist then something is afoot there was no external evedince except for the marks on his throat ,but the plot thickens will there be a cover up ,if he was poisened then its an embarresment to the West Indies for lack security however if that was the case then he knew his attackers because there was no signs of struggle ,maybe someone who would have acess to the hotel and the players.
Maybe we will knowin the next few days

T_igger_cs_30
22 Mar 07,, 11:42
i think he was poisoned ,when they send blood to a toxiecologist then something is afoot there was no external evedince except for the marks on his throat ,but the plot thickens will there be a cover up ,if he was poisened then its an embarresment to the West Indies for lack security however if that was the case then he knew his attackers because there was no signs of struggle ,maybe someone who would have acess to the hotel and the players.
Maybe we will knowin the next few days

Suicide?"

Parihaka
23 Mar 07,, 01:12
Jamaican Police have confirmed Woolmer was murdered by strangulation:mad:

T_igger_cs_30
23 Mar 07,, 01:13
Jamaican Police have confirmed Woolmer was murdered by strangulation:mad:

Then the world cup should be cancelled:mad:

Parihaka
23 Mar 07,, 01:16
Then the world cup should be cancelled:mad:

Agreed.

Parihaka
23 Mar 07,, 01:20
The Jamaican police couldn't prevent the Pakistani cricket team and support crew from leaving but fingerprinted them at the airport. They've now called in the British police.

kams
23 Mar 07,, 01:38
Woolmer died of strangulation

The death of Bob Woolmer is now being treated as a murder case. During a press conference in Jamaica it was revealed that he died of asphyxiation by manual strangulation. Post mortem results show that Woolmer was strangled.

Police spokesman Karl Angell said: "The pathologist's report states that Mr Woolmer's death was due to asphyxiation as a result of manual strangulation. In these circumstances, the matter of Mr Woolmer's death is now being treated by the Jamaica police as a case of murder."

Paul Condon, the former Commissioner of the London Metropolitan Police who conducted a report into match-fixing and corruption in 2001, will assist in the investigations.

"We have a lot of lines of inquiry but there are no suspects," said Mark Shields, Jamaica's deputy commissioner of police who is now heading the police investigation. He addressed the press conference along with Malcolm Speed and Chris Dehring, Managing Director and Chief Executive Officer of Windies World Cup 2007.

Speed confirmed that the World Cup will continue. Dehring said: "We have reviewed the security arrangements in place and we feel that are adequate."

Link (http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/wc2007/content/current/story/286794.html)

Probably bookies involved. Pakistani Cricketer Dinesh Kanaria had the room next Wolmer.

Scotlandyard is involved in the investigations now. Wolmer held a British Passport.

saambaarblast
23 Mar 07,, 03:20
The fact that ICC, which was originally a very honorable body moved from London to Dubai, a bookies paradise and generally speaking a region of wheeler-dealers, should have raised a red flag among fans. Being close to cricketing center of gravity, ie, India-Pak-SL-BD seems like a perfect alibi for this network of criminals.

Yes, the world cup should be cancelled. We are only seeing the tip of iceberg. International terrorists(D Company) seem to have their fingerprints along with criminal bookies. Even people at the very top(ICC) seem to be involved.

I blame Kerry Packer for all of this. He is the one responsible for over-commercialisation of this sport. Oh, he was also responsible for introducing clown suits over the graceful whites that was a norm in cricket.

lemontree
23 Mar 07,, 06:01
This picture says it all....

execrable
23 Mar 07,, 11:58
I would prefer the cricketers themselves were asked about cancelling the World Cup.

I know the case of Munich 72 was political rather than financial (no proof yet it was to do with betting) but closing the competition down without consulting all the players won't do Bob Woolmers memory any credit IMO.

dave lukins
23 Mar 07,, 18:21
[QUOTE=execrable;358128]I would prefer the cricketers themselves were asked about cancelling the World Cup.

Yes Execrable that seems a better solution. Ask the Pakistani team first ,and if only one member says no to playing on then it should be cancelled. A sad situation indeed:frown:

kams
23 Mar 07,, 21:44
Indian Cricket...RIP

Lahori paa jee
24 Mar 07,, 04:57
I have no interest in WC now as Pakistan and India, the two favs are out. I wish Chappel returns home safely.

Dravid played beautifully under pressure.

Tendulkar has been a big disappointment. He has around 76 centuries to his credit but if you look at statistics they were scored while india batted first and he is not a match wining player. Tendulkar has never performed under pressure.

Ray
24 Mar 07,, 05:09
Its field days for the Bookies. ;)

Ray
24 Mar 07,, 05:17
It's an interesting situation where both India and Pakistan are out!

Its a glorious game of uncertainty - cricket.

And of BIG MONEY! ;)

I am glad this could also happen since these over-hyped characters required to be brought down to Mother Earth!

so, Greg Chappel had his eyes on the World Cup and was training all these guys for years!

Imagine the way Robin Utappa started playing and then Ganguli went down lie a damp squib and Tendulkar castled like a greenhorn! ;) Put off the TV to be told by daughter this morning from Singapore we lost!

Not surprised.

Unhappy?

No.

Disliked these over inflated blimps called Indian Dream Team cricketers!

They have been rightly punctured.

Maybe cricket will come back to those days when playing cricket was fun and losing and winning did not matter as if it were life and death!

Lahori paa jee
24 Mar 07,, 06:59
This years WC was supposed to come to South Asia. With India and Pakistan out we still have hopes with Sri Lanka. They are a very strong team.

Parihaka
24 Mar 07,, 07:08
I have no interest in WC now as Pakistan and India, the two favs are out. I wish Chappel returns home safely.


Favourites where? ODI rankings are South Africa, Australia, New Zealand, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, India.

Asim Aquil
24 Mar 07,, 07:57
I know a few guys who blew off a Friday outing to watch this match!

Hmmm West Indies and Sri Lanka don't stand much of a chance. They've brought in with them Ireland and Bangladesh. Meaning Each of the other two group's qualifiers would have an easy time scoring against two newbies. While WI and SL just get one.

Ray
24 Mar 07,, 08:04
Nothing will happen to Chappel.

He will be adequately looked after.

I wonder why the National Security Guards accompanied the Indian Cricket team. Could it be that things were 'fixed' at 'high levels? ;)

Asim Aquil
24 Mar 07,, 08:10
Nothing will happen to Chappel.

He will be adequately looked after.

I wonder why the National Security Guards accompanied the Indian Cricket team. Could it be that things were 'fixed' at 'high levels? ;)
Saw the rioting? Total idiots. They are calling for everyone's retirement. For the first time they are after Tendulkar, the bhagwaan!!

Lol Pakistani players were saved by the woolmer. There was extreme outrage (lol, one poster was calling for hanging Inzamam and Woolmer) the day after but then Woolmer died and it suddenly turned into sympathies.

I don't think it was a fixed match. There was genuine disbelief on the faces of the Indian players. This happens man. Our cricketing style is too old fashioned. The Aussies on the other hand seem to be of a whole different league.

Kipruss
24 Mar 07,, 09:38
I'm glad they are still continuing with the games. One death, even from a probable murder, shouldn't stop such an important tournament. Many of the results have been so unexpected that it is worth continuing to see if there are any more to come.

Grim Reaper
24 Mar 07,, 16:44
I'm now offically backing Sri Lanka!

Ray
24 Mar 07,, 22:01
Asim,

Burning effigies is not rioting!

Apparently you do not what is a riot living in a controlled country like Dubai!

The matches are fixed and that is common knowledge and the centre of control is Dubai and organised by the bookies of India and Pakistan.

BTW, Woolmer has been murdered! No doubt about that and that has been officially declared.

The Pakistani team has been delayed from leaving the West Indies!

kams
24 Mar 07,, 22:27
Two Pakistani Players have been asked to remain while rest of the team can leave.

South Africa after a brilliant start against Australia are on the verge of defeat. No wonder their 'Choker' label continues to stick.

SriLanka and Aussie final would be my guess.

With both India and Pakistan out of the worldcup, the broadcasters are going to loose very heavily. Wouldn't be surprised if cpl of companies go belly up. Rate for 10 sec slot of advertisement without India or Pakistan is 1/6 th of original rates.

Ray
24 Mar 07,, 22:46
I wish all who reap revenue from the World Cup sink because Cricket has been made into a Circus with performing monkeys.

Imagine a gentleman's game having been reduced to the level of a Coc-k fight pit!

And murder becoming an input for fun and games!

How low a game can be brought to, is exemplified by the World Cup.

No wonder it is called the Packer's Circus!

Kerry Francis Bullmore Packer AC (17 December 1937 – 26 December 2005), son of Sir Frank Packer, was an Australian publishing, media and gaming tycoon who owned the Nine Network.

Outside Australia, Packer was best known for founding World Series Cricket.

Therefore, it is not surprising that the World Cup is all about gaming and big money!

Murder is just another input to make it more exciting! :mad:

Imagine the Woolmer's widow's and sons' loss!

Ray
24 Mar 07,, 22:57
Suspicion over the murder of cricket coach Bob Woolmer has fallen on up to five notorious Pakistani bookies, who have been involved in match-fixing in the past.

ABC Sport - Cricket (http://www.abc.net.au/cricket/default.htm)

Ray
24 Mar 07,, 23:04
Imagine the hype what with England defeating Australian and Kiwis defeating England prior to the World Cup!

Oh yes, the glorious uncertainty of cricket no doubt!

And the power of Big Money can also not be too far behind to make it even more gloriously uncertain!

T_igger_cs_30
25 Mar 07,, 00:28
I dont care who wins it anymore, a murder, riots who really cares anymore about a sport..................I for one do not

jaguar
25 Mar 07,, 03:08
:mad:

Karthik
25 Mar 07,, 03:35
I'm really glad that my happiness doesn't depend on cricket. :rolleyes:

JBG
25 Mar 07,, 03:38
Latest - the Australian team has given the South African's a paddling ( like they are generally doing to our Super 14 teams ).

I find it hard to comprehend that people can suddenly say that their national team is no longer involved so they don't care anymore. Do you people not like CRICKET!! Or would you react so poorly to your nation's loss in a tiddley winks' competition?

When I see effigies being burnt I can only think that a lot of people really have to get a grip on themselves and otherwise get a life. They don't want to watch cricket they only want to carry nationalistic fantasies into totally inappropriate forums.

May the best team win.

Jonathan

Elbmek
25 Mar 07,, 14:47
On the radio this morning, I heard them tell that Bob Woolmer had a furious row with the players following their surprise defeat and resigned on the spot. 2 hours later he was dead, murdered by one of the team, in my opinion.

He was also writing a book, which apparently was going to be a bit of an "expose" on Pakistani cricket.

Everyone in the know about cricket, knows that Pakistani cricket is riddled with corruption and talks about match fixing and ball tampering. It has been going on for years. The authorities turn a blind eye because the alternatives are, in their eyes, too bad to think about.

The players have been allowed to return home and are now, as I type, enroute to Pakistan.

I hope something does come of this and it does not vanish into the mists of unsolved crimes. If something does come out I also wonder what will be the consequences for Pakistani cricket overall? I think someone made an awful lot of money from this sham of a game.

dave lukins
25 Mar 07,, 19:25
[QUOTE=Elbmek;358892] 2 hours later he was dead, murdered by one of the team, in my opinion.



Everyone in the know about cricket, knows that Pakistani cricket is riddled with corruption and talks about match fixing and ball tampering.



Is there a Lawyer in the house:) is there a case for libel here M'lud?:biggrin:

kams
25 Mar 07,, 20:11
news reports estimate that Indian bookies have suffered a loss of about Rs 2500 crore (Approximately $5 billion + change) on India's loss to Srilanka. :biggrin: .

Boy I love it. Many bookies will have to hang themself.

Ray
25 Mar 07,, 20:40
I don't think the statement was libellous.

I believe it is a well known fact that games are bought and thrown away on money. Hansie admitted. Indian and Pakistani bookies are well known to have fixed matches.

I believe there is a case going on where the ICC, non profiting organisation, is a registered company in the island of UK where there is no tax and none knows who owns that company and the ICC top chap is merely has the post of secretary in that Company. It is said that it has a hug sum running into many billions!

This was said in a programme on Zee TV.

So, the whole organisation that runs this Series stinks!

Rice, a South African cricketer, who has the rights to Woolmer's book has said that Woolmer was going to expose these crooks. It includes not only the players, but also the officials!!!!

Woolmer's murder must be caught.

ICC chucked out and bring back MCC to control cricket as before!

dave lukins
25 Mar 07,, 20:52
ICC chucked out and bring back MCC to control cricket as before!


All in favour say aye.... the ayes have it!!:rolleyes: :)

T_igger_cs_30
25 Mar 07,, 21:16
All in favour say aye.... the ayes have it!!:rolleyes: :)

aye ...............:)

saambaarblast
26 Mar 07,, 06:50
news reports estimate that Indian bookies have suffered a loss of about Rs 2500 crore (Approximately $5 billion + change) on India's loss to Srilanka. :biggrin: .

Boy I love it. Many bookies will have to hang themself.

Kams:
Rs 50 = $1 . (Roughly)
Rs 2500 Crores = Rs 25, 000,000,000 = US$ 500,000,000


So we are talking about US$ 500 million and not US$Five Billion.

saambaarblast
26 Mar 07,, 07:13
Better, all concerned govts shut down cricketing activities in their respective countries for next four years in order to conduct thorough "investigations". I think every body (fans included) will be set right by next world cup.

Everybody is involved. Players, bookies, umpires, officials, politicians, terrorists-on-the-run, corporations etc. Cricket still has colonial hangover. As good a game it is, good riddance to it!

execrable
26 Mar 07,, 16:02
Yes Execrable that seems a better solution. Ask the Pakistani team first ,and if only one member says no to playing on then it should be cancelled. A sad situation indeed:frown:

Dave, I'm really sorry but I've looked at that sentence all day and I don't get your point.

The point I was making is that no major sports event should be cancelled without the participants themselves agreeing to it. It shouldn't be the bystanders / betting people / ministers / laypeople or that really is a sad day for sport.

I'm rambling - maybe I should give a more personal account. I competed, ran, shot fought and swam (that one's a bad joke) at county and national level in the UK and what I knew at major competitions was that I was at my peak fitness and age. I would never be so fit or so ready again.
Selfish it was and is but most sportsmen know they may never get the chance again, the same with the cricketers in the World Cup right now. Some may be too old or they may know that better / faster / fitter sportsmen will be in their place next time. To take away their chance to test themselves is one of the bitterest things a sportsman ever has to face - or live with.

kams
26 Mar 07,, 16:30
Kams:
Rs 50 = $1 . (Roughly)
Rs 2500 Crores = Rs 25, 000,000,000 = US$ 500,000,000


So we are talking about US$ 500 million and not US$Five Billion.

F***K, too much beer.:redface:

JBG
28 Mar 07,, 10:47
$500 million is still a pretty impressive sum, however Kams.

Hope you were at least drinking quality beer!!

Jonathan

kams
28 Mar 07,, 22:15
It was Japanese Beer which is to blame.:biggrin:

South Africa almost lived up to their name again....Chokers.:mad: With 4 runs to win, they lost 4 wickets in 4 balls aginst SLanka. Finally made 212/9. They were 206/5 with 5 overs to go.

Ray
29 Mar 07,, 08:10
The glorious uncertainty of cricket boosted by good money! ;) :)

Parihaka
16 Apr 07,, 00:17
Did I mention NZ beat South Africa and is now in the semis?:)

Ray
16 Apr 07,, 00:33
After SA was bundled off, I knew NZ would win.

I wasn't in doubt.

NZ is the dark horse for the World Cup!

It will depend upon the pitch (and the bookies? :) ]

Tronic
16 Apr 07,, 04:10
The Irish were damn impressive... love the beating they have the S. Africans for a change... :biggrin:

soutie
18 Apr 07,, 08:24
:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: speakin of spankings did anyone notice England getting one:biggrin: did i mention 9 wicket win:biggrin:

Ray
22 Apr 07,, 16:14
Holding smells a rat in Vaas, Muralidharan omission
Michael Holding

Melbourne: Former West Indies fast bowler Michael Holding has said Sri Lanka’s decision to rest two key players for their Super Eight clash against Australia had opened the game to further corruption.

Sri Lanka, already missing injured strike bowler Lasith Malinga, omitted star bowlers Muttiah Muralidharan and Chaminda Vaas from the seven-wicket defeat at Grenada’s National Stadium.

“I think what it does is allow people who know what is happening to get a headstart if they are gambling,” Holding was quoted as saying in the Australian media. “I have an account with Betfair and I watch a lot of different markets.

“Before the game started, Australia were 2-1 on. As soon as the toss went to air, when they (Betfair) found out, Australia went to 5-1 on because Muralidharan wasn’t playing, Malinga wasn’t playing, Vaas wasn’t playing,” the former fast bowler told an Australian newspaper.

The Telegraph - Archives (http://www.telegraphindia.com/archives/archive.html)

All one can say is that not only Holding, but a lot of people are smelling a rat about competitive cricket as such! More so, after the killing of the Pakistani coach.

Too much of money anywhere ruins the charm of any game. International football where there is big money involved is also riddled with graft.

Where have those days gone where games were played for the sake of playing games and nothing more!

Here is what it has turned out to be:

The Telegraph - Calcutta : Frontpage (http://www.telegraphindia.com/1070415/asp/frontpage/story_7650094.asp)

Parihaka
22 Apr 07,, 23:10
Aussies crush Kiwis by a record 215 runs

ST GEORGEíS (Antigua): Australia demolished New Zealand by a World Cup record 215 runs on Friday in their final Super Eights match to extend their unbeaten run in the tournament to 27 since they lost to Pakistan in 1999.

The defending championsí winning margin between Test nations in the tournament exceeded the 202-run victory recorded by England over India in a 60 overs match at the first edition in 1975.

It was also New Zealandís heaviest defeat ever in a one-day international.

Man-of-the-match Matthew Hayden bludgeoned his third century of the tournament, captain Ricky Ponting stroked 66 and Shane Watson smashed 65 from 32 balls to take the defending champions to 348 for six in their final Super Eights match.

New Zealand, who successfully chased two of the three highest targets ever against Australia during their 3-0 win in the Chappell-Hadlee series this year, went straight on to the attack in reply but lost wickets steadily to a series of loose shots.

They were eventually dismissed for 133 from 26 overs with opener Peter Fulton last man out for 62.
Bugger.

Ray
23 Apr 07,, 04:45
NZ should rise like a Phoenix!

soutie
23 Apr 07,, 09:56
that Sri Lankan thing with top players being omitted sticks ,can u imagine if Sri Lanka win he he:biggrin: apparently before the team was picked Australia odds of beating Sri Lanka came from 5 to 1 down to 2 two 1,bit suspect,.

Jay
24 Apr 07,, 23:42
Sorry Pari, NZ lost by 81 runs. This is the 5th time NZ has lost a world cup semi finals.
Jayawardane and Murali were awesome today.

Tasman
25 Apr 07,, 04:38
Bad luck Parihaka - what a thing to happen on Anzac Day (well Kiwi and Oz time anyway)! I would have loved an Anzac final but now I 'm worried about SA tomorrow. One day cricket is a funny thing and the Aussies are overdue for an 'off' day.

Cheers

Bob Jones
25 Apr 07,, 14:21
Bloody Aussies, good luck South Africa,

soutie
25 Apr 07,, 16:04
my gut tells me we are going home tomorrow

Ray
25 Apr 07,, 16:09
You mean South Africa?

On the face of it, that possibility seems bright.

But then one can't say anything with the glorious uncertainty of cricket..................and bookies! :biggrin:

kams
25 Apr 07,, 17:29
my gut tells me we are going home tomorrow

looks like your wish is coming true :biggrin: , South Africa is living up to its reputation.

South Africa 128/8

Tasman
25 Apr 07,, 20:59
Looks like Australia is not having an off day today and SA has 'choked' again! :)

SA 149

Aust now 128/3

Cheers

kams
25 Apr 07,, 21:16
Ok Aussie vs Srilanka it is, that should be fun.:biggrin:

Our VP (R&D) is an Aussie, should I wait for the finals to ask for a raise??

Bigfella
25 Apr 07,, 21:24
Sri Lanka is the team best set up to beat Australia. They are the only team with a batting & bowling lineup that can match Australia. Should be a good final.

kams
25 Apr 07,, 21:30
Sri Lanka is the team best set up to beat Australia. They are the only team with a batting & bowling lineup that can match Australia. Should be a good final.


Yep, If Murali and Malinga get cpl of wickets each, Jayasuria fires, we will have a match to watch. Otherwise it will be boring one sided affair.

Tasman
25 Apr 07,, 21:45
Sri Lanka is the team best set up to beat Australia. They are the only team with a batting & bowling lineup that can match Australia. Should be a good final.

I agree. The two best sides are through to the final. Any team with Jayasuriya leading its batting line up and match winning bowlers in Muralitharan, Vaas and Malinga, is a real threat to any other side. Australia will again need to produce its 'A' game.

Cheers

Parihaka
25 Apr 07,, 23:54
I'm in a cleft stick, I'd like to cheer for Aussie as I'm feeling all ANZAC'ed up, but 3 times in a row is just too much. Go Sri Lanka!

JBG
26 Apr 07,, 10:45
It seems that the two best teams have made it through. That is as it should be.

Sri Lanka are playing some great cricket ( I watched the game live, being an early riser ) but I am not sure that it is enough to beat Australia. After the "hiccup" of the one day series in Australia ( we thrashed them in the Tests and the 20-20 games ) Ponting's team appears to be back to its best. If Sri Lanka wins it will be a great victory to them and one that had truly to be earned.

Frankly, I am not jingoistic enough to want other than a good game of cricket to watch between two superbly talented and entertaining teams.

BTW the Sri Lankan coach is Australian!! As were the Pakistani and Indian teams coaches!! Bangladesh still has an Australian coach.

Jonathan

soutie
26 Apr 07,, 10:51
i think in my book NZ has made the semi finals 5 times ,that is choking donald dropping his bat when only one run to win thats choking ,getting thumped by 7 wickets is not choking,they just ****ing bent over and got shafted:rolleyes:

Tasman
28 Apr 07,, 20:16
All the buildup for the finals and then a two hour delay for rain and the game reduced to 38 overs each! Some of the commentators think that will benefit the underdog, Sri Lanka.

Australia 281/4 from their 38 overs at 7.4 per over. If Sri Lanka achieve that it will be a great match (not that I'm barracking for SL of course! :eek: )

Adam Gilchrist 149 off 104 balls chose a good match to find some form.

Cheers

Ray
28 Apr 07,, 20:40
What do the bookies say?

That is most important! ;)

It has to be a most exciting finish or else how will the ad come next time?

No money and there will be no world cup!

Games are no longer for the fun. It is BIG business.

Fat Cats and sharks have ruined what was a gentleman's pastime!

Tasman
28 Apr 07,, 21:49
Well Sri Lanka are going very well 110/1 off 18 overs and Jayasuriya and Sangakkara going hammer and tong. Thet've certainly given SL a chance and it looks kike it is going to be an exciting finish.

Bookies showing SL at 4 and Oz at 1.25 but I think it will be closer than that! :frown:

Cheers

kams
28 Apr 07,, 22:32
SL 149/3..not looking good. Rain stopped play again.

I don't understand, they have a reserve day, so why restrict overs to 38? Why not continue tomorrow or better yet, start tomorrow? M/s DL should not be the ones deciding the outcome of the Finals.:mad:

Tasman
28 Apr 07,, 23:36
SL 149/3..not looking good. Rain stopped play again.

I don't understand, they have a reserve day, so why restrict overs to 38? Why not continue tomorrow or better yet, start tomorrow? M/s DL should not be the ones deciding the outcome of the Finals.:mad:

The end was farcical. With three overs to go and SL needing 63 runs the players were called off because of bad light. Everyone, including the officials, thought Oz had won but the umpires then announced they would have to come back the next day to bowl those three overs! So you are right Kam. If they can come back gfor three overs they should have been able to bowl 50 a side and continued the next day.

Sanity has prevailed. The two captains have agreed to bowl the last three overs regardless of the the light. Oz has put on slow bowlers.

Australia has won. Well done SL for making a good game of it.

The ICC now needs to get its act together. The whole WC has been a farce IMHO.

Cheers

kams
29 Apr 07,, 01:51
The end was farcical.

Australia has won. Well done SL for making a good game of it.

The ICC now needs to get its act together. The whole WC has been a farce IMHO.

Cheers

Congratulations Aussies. You deserve the accolades.

Slanka - I am bit disappointed with their show in finals.

Tasman, I agree that WC 2007 has been a big fiasco. Too long IMHO. Could have been better.

kams
29 Apr 07,, 02:17
This article nicely captures the low/highlights of WC2007.


Maybe it was inevitable that this ill-fated, ill-conceived tournament should end so absurdly with a Duckworth/Lewis victory to Australia. After they had cracked 281 for four from 38 overs on a stormy day, Sri Lanka, defiant to the last, gave chase but accepted the umpires' second offer of the light with three overs remaining and their target now unattainable.

Then, after the Aussies had commenced celebrations, amid great confusions those final three overs were bowled after all. Amid boos and catcalls and another Australian huddle of celebration barely visible from the sidelines, the curtain fell upon a World Cup that lurched between tragedy and farce for seven weeks. Here was confirmation that we live in an age where regulation far outstrips common sense.

t was a farcical conclusion to the tournament. Earlier, after one shower, play resumed in semi-darkness and no one in the ground knew whether or how the target had been reduced. What a shambles.

As dusk set in, there was yet another delay while the figures were sorted out. In a land where the sun sets swiftly, more precious time had been wasted. Eventually the umpires had to offer the batsmen the light, but they had to stay on since they were behind the rate. Then the second offer was accepted. And then, to our utter astonishment, they returned for Andrew Symonds and Michael Clarke to propel the ball at a pace that was visible. In the end Australia retained the World Cup by a margin of 53 runs that no one could understand.

No doubt Australia deserved their victory. But if ever a match was a metaphor for the ills of the modern game and this tournament, this was it. Common sense requires that in a final to decide the world champions every opportunity should be given to deliver a match with cricketing integrity. It should be able to run its 50-over course even if it takes two or three days to get there. But, of course, cricketing integrity appears to be the last thing on the minds of those who run World Cups. A manageable product for TV and the sponsors is far more important. So it is that after 50 matches and seven weeks of competition Australia hold the trophy thanks to the calculations of the estimable Mr Duckworth and Mr Lewis. Congratulations to them. Meanwhile, ICC CWC 2007 Inc has bucket loads of egg upon its face. How dare the organisers try to spin a success story this week?

The two best sides in the world strained every sinew to win the trophy properly and in the process rescue a tournament that has been flawed from start to finish.

Despite all the impediments it was some match until the final three-quarters of an hour. Gilchrist should have put the game way beyond the reach of any international side after Ricky Ponting had won the toss at 9.50am, which actually meant that his side could start batting at 12.15pm (more rain). But Sri Lanka refused to be cowed and gave chase so valiantly that this game was no foregone conclusion at 5.10pm, when the rain intervened one more time.

Gilchrist has been overshadowed by his barnstorming partner, Matthew Hayden, in this tournament, but come the final he was the man who was relaxed enough to let those juices flow. Where Hayden, by his standards, was careworn and circumspect, Gilchrist sped to his fifty in 43 balls. Twenty-nine balls later he had a century in the most thrilling display of controlled hitting ever seen in a World Cup final.

Four others have hit centuries in a final - Clive Lloyd, Viv Richards, Aravinda de Silva and Ponting, winners all. But none of them attacked with this ferocious abandon. Hands impossibly high on his bat, Gilchrist swung and never missed.

The Kensington Oval was not big enough to contain him. Every bowler he faced was caned. Now sixes rained into the stands, even when Muttiah Muralitharan was bowling. One pulled drive against Murali almost cleared the Greenidge and Haynes Stand, while the paintwork high up in the elegant Three Ws stand, so recently completed, was badly blemished when Tillakaratne Dilshan was bowling.

Sri Lanka did not bowl that badly; nor were they slovenly in the field. Gilchrist was simply irresistible. For the most part Hayden looked on in admiration during an opening partnership of 172.

After Hayden went for 38, Ponting proved just as adept at giving Gilchrist the strike. The mood of Mahela Jayawardene and his men was not enhanced when both Ponting and then Andrew Symonds were warned - but not penalised the dreaded five runs - for running on the pitch.

Sri Lanka's reply was inevitably frenetic. Upul Tharanga smashed his first ball over cover for four but soon nibbled at a Nathan Bracken swinger. Then Sanath Jayasuriya, as everexploring the off-side boundaries, tormented Shaun Tait. Now Kumar Sangakkara was also galvanised. This pair threw the bat in thrilling style; the chase was on as they added 114 together in 17 overs. The Aussies, if not drowning, were no longer cruising in the Caribbean.

Tait was immediately replaced by Glenn McGrath in his last international. So here we had two champions of the game, Jayasuriya and McGrath, gentlemen both behind the ********, locked in combat one last time. Jayasuriya paid McGrath the respect of watchfully leaving most of his first over. Then the swinging resumed.

Seeing the clouds massing on the horizon, the Sri Lanka pair had to take more risks to keep up with Duckworth/Lewis targets for a foreshortened game. Sangakkara pulled to midwicket and Jayasuriya heaved and missed against Michael Clarke.

The rest of the Sri Lankans flailed away earnestly; the Aussies, hampered by a wet ball, were booed for their slow over rate and it grew dark as the sun set behind the clouds.

The tournament may have got the farcical final it deserved, but some great players were owed more than this. It should have been a showpiece to say a more dignified farewell to two of the greatest cricketers of the past 15 years, Jayasuriya and McGrath. Instead we all left shaking our heads that after seven interminable weeks it had ended like this.

Link (http://sport.guardian.co.uk/cricketworldcup2007/story/0,,2068227,00.html)

Lara, McGrath, Jayasuria, Inzamam, Anil Kumble have decided to call it a day in One day Internationals. I will sorelymiss them, they belong to an elite level of sportsmen, hugely talented, tactically brilliant and ruthless in their approach. Thank you Gentlemen.

Tasman
29 Apr 07,, 22:24
In a final twist to the farcical ending the match referee Jeff Crowe has admitted that he and the umpires (2 match umpires, TV replay umpire and emergency umpire) made an error when the two captains were told they would have to come back the next day to bowl three more overs. He also said that even if they had actually been correct they made another error when the captains agreed to resume in the dark as the ten minute delay should have only required one more over! :confused:

Cup win dimmed by farce | Mercury - The Voice of Tasmania (http://www.news.com.au/mercury/story/0,22884,21641706-921,00.html)

At least the outstanding team of the tournament won the cup and the next best team was runner up so that turned out as it should even if officialdom couldn't find its way out of a paper bag> :rolleyes:

Cheers

JBG
30 Apr 07,, 09:53
The whole tournament was badly run but the end of the final match was farcical and whilst it diminished the thrill for Australia it must have been hell for the Sri Lankans, who were there in the final for the simple reason that that they are a very good team and the second best overall.

In the Australian today it pointed out that, given 50 overs, Australia did not score below 320 or so. It all become a little one sided and I am not sure that the continued participation of Pakistan would have made a difference, though that of India may well have, had they discovered a will to win.

Let us hope that the next World Cup, if anyone cares after this one, is a lot better.

Jonathan

Ray
30 Apr 07,, 18:32
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Cricket coach Woolmer 'poisoned'

Woolmer's remains loaded into cargo area in Kingston

Woolmer's remains were flown to South Africa on Sunday

Pakistan's cricket coach Bob Woolmer, who died of strangulation earlier this year, was also poisoned, a BBC investigation has learned.

The results of toxicology tests mean it now seems certain the ex-England player was rendered helpless before being strangled, the Panorama programme says.

Woolmer's murder in March during the Cricket World Cup in the West Indies cast a shadow over the tournament.

His remains were flown back to his home in Cape Town in South Africa on Sunday.

The casket, which had been sealed in a large wooden crate, arrived on board a commercial flight to Cape Town's International Airport from Jamaica.

He was found dead in his Kingston hotel on 18 March, the day after his side lost to Ireland in the World Cup.

A post-mortem examination said he had been strangled.

On 20 April the inquest into the death was postponed because the coroner was advised there had been "recent and significant developments".

'Unable to fight back'

Now a Panorama investigation has learned that a toxicology report on Woolmer's body shows that there was a drug in his body that would have incapacitated him.

The final results of the report are due to be given to Jamaican police next week.

Bob Woolmer
Some 30 detectives are investigating Woolmer's death

"Those tests will show there was a drug in his system that would have incapacitated Mr Woolmer," Panorama's Adam Parsons says.

"It now seems certain that as he was being strangled, he'd already been rendered helpless - leaving him unable to fight back.

"The specific details of that poison are now very likely to offer a significant lead to finding his murderer."

The policeman leading the murder investigation, Mark Shields, told Panorama that it is "difficult and it's rare" for one man to strangle another.

"A lot of force would be needed to do that. Bob Woolmer was a large man and that's why one could argue that it was an extremely strong person or maybe more than one person.

"But equally the lack of external injuries suggests that there might be some other factors and that's what we're looking into at the moment."

Family spokesman Gareth Pyne-James told the Associated Press news agency that Woolmer's funeral in South Africa would be a private ceremony.

"Arrangements have been made and the family will decide whether it's going to be an interment or cremation," Theo Rix, from a local funeral home, told Reuters news agency.

Panorama: Murder at the World Cup will be broadcast on BBC1 at 20:30 BST, Monday.
BBC NEWS | South Asia | Cricket coach Woolmer 'poisoned' (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6606175.stm)

rofthemasteool
12 May 07,, 02:36
I'm a 14 year-old soft-dicked idiot who thought I could I could play with the grownups.

Ray
12 May 07,, 05:54
Police could name Woolmer murder suspect after UK meeting

Thursday, May 10, 2007

A source close to the probe into the death of former Pakistan cricket coach Bob Woolmer, said yesterday that a murder suspect could be named after local investigators meet today in London with Scotland Yard detective superintendent John Sweeney.

"I am not saying much, only that the case will be closer to closure after that high-level meeting," the source, who asked not to be named, said.

More at:

Police could name Woolmer murder suspect after UK meeting - JAMAICAOBSERVER.COM (http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/html/20070510T010000-0500_122814_OBS_POLICE_COULD_NAME_WOOLMER_MURDER_S USPECT_AFTER_UK_MEETING.asp)

Mushtaq in new Woolmer twist
11 May, 2007 l 0122 hrs ISTlTIMES NEWS NETWORK & AGENCIES

ISLAMABAD/NEW DELHI: The Bob Woolmer murder case gets curiouser and curiouser. In yet another sensational twist, Pakistanís media manager for the World Cup, Pervez Mir, told a Pakistan TV channel that the champagne bottles, which were reportedly mixed with a poisonous weed killer, were passed on to Woolmer by bowling coach Mushtaq Ahmed.

Mir said Mushtaq had received the bottles from 'some other person', whose identity was known only to Mushtaq and team manager Talat Ali.

The British media had earlier claimed that the Scotland Yard and Jamaican police sources strongly suspected that a poisonous 'weed killer' had been mixed in the champagne bottles, one of which Woolmer had consumed before being found dead in his hotel room.

An eyewitness, who did not want to be named, told PTI that the champagne bottles were not intentionally gifted by Mushtaq to the late coach. Woolmer had come to Mushtaqís room to inquire about a nose injury suffered by him during nets.

Spotting the two bottles, Woolmer had inquired if he could take them to which Mushtaq had said that he was welcome to do so. Then Pakistan captain Inzamam-ul Haq and all-rounder Shahid Afridi were also present in the room, the eye-witness said.

Talat Ali and Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) chairman Nasim Ashraf declined to comment on Mirís revelations. But PCBís director of communications Ehsan Malik was understandably on the backfoot. Malik told TOI that the board would not react immediately to the accusations.

Mushtaq in new Woolmer twist-Pakistan-World-The Times of India (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Mushtaq_in_new_Woolmer_twist/articleshow/2029258.cms)



Mushtaq not worried

11 May, 2007 l 0338 hrs ISTlTIMES NEWS NETWORK & AGENCIES

ISLAMABAD/NEW DELHI: Reacting to the revelations made by Pakistanís media manager Pervez Mir to a TV channel that bowling coach Mushtaq Ahmed had passed on the champagne bottles reportedly containing a poisonous substance to murdered ex-coach Bob Woolmer, the PCBís director of communications Ehsan Malik told TOI: "Why should we react to what Mir has said? We cannot make comments on every new theory.

"We are dealing directly with the Jamaican authorities and if they communicate with us regarding these latest developments, we will have a role to play."

Mushtaq, who is also an activist of Islamic religious outfit Tablighi Jamaat, said from England that some persons of Pakistani origin based in England had left the bottles in his hotel room, and since he does not drink, Woolmer had picked up the bottles four days before he was found dead.

Mushtaq also said he knew these individuals but would not make their names public because they had families and their "names would be unnecessarily tarnished".

"I am not worried. Woolmer was part of the family," Mushtaq added. The TV report, incidentally, quoted Mir as saying that Woolmer used to drink beer and rarely consumed champagne. He also said team manager Talat Ali was the only other person who knew the identities of those who had given the bottles to Mushtaq. Ali, however, said when contacted by TOI: "I canít comment on a rumour. It's all a rumour."

Meanwhile, the Jamaican Observer reported that a suspect in the murder case might be named soon following a high-level meeting between Jamaican police officials and Scotland Yard in London on Thursday.

"I am not saying much, only that the case will be closer to closure after that high-level meeting," a source close to the investigation was quoted as saying by the paper. A team from the Jamaica constabulary force, led by deputy commissioner Mark Shields, has left the island to meet Scotland Yard detective superintendent John Sweeney.

Mir, who had been questioned by the Jamaican police along with members of the Pakistani team before it was allowed to fly back home, told TV channel ARY that he had not spoken to the police about the bottles.

However, he maintained that Ahmed would have given the bottles to Woolmer "in the best of spirit".

Mushtaq not worried-Pakistan-World-The Times of India (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/World/Pakistan/Mushtaq_not_worried_police_might_name_suspect_soon _/articleshow/2030434.cms)

Elbmek
14 May 07,, 15:14
I'm a 14 year-old soft-dicked idiot who thought I could I could play with the grownups.Well you thought wrong you liar, go back to the creche ........

glyn
14 May 07,, 15:42
Well you thought wrong you liar, go back to the creche ........

He's been banished, dear heart! :)

Elbmek
14 May 07,, 17:28
He's been banished, dear heart! :) Sir, your information is like a shaft of gold in the dark of the night ............




....... but then again so is bat's pee!!!! :tongue:

glyn
14 May 07,, 18:53
Sir, your information is like a shaft of gold in the dark of the night ............


I was rather hoping for a quote on the lines of 'shining like a good deed in this naughty world', but alas, I was mistaken.:redface:

....... but then again so is bat's pee!!!! :tongue:

Your follow-up only indicates to me that I am often misunderstood:confused:

Elbmek
14 May 07,, 19:31
Your follow-up only indicates to me that I am often misunderstood:confused:
good though, was it not?